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Imbu
United States903 Posts
On April 15 2012 12:30 wunsun wrote: What is the reason for limitted amount of SC2 connections per ip? From some previous threads I've read about this, its to prevent some type of theoretical attack on Battle.net. What specifically (all I can think of is a DDoS Attack) I don't really know. I'm curious if this happens at net cafes? or does it have to be an extremely high number of log ins? (something along the lines of 100+?) | ||
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TelecoM
United States10890 Posts
On April 15 2012 13:15 LimeNade wrote: From the OP " For a game that was designed with esports in mind, Blizzard sure does make an effort to ensure that no one can play the game in a group setting." LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL someone show me documentation of when blizzard officials ever said anything bout Sc2 "designed with esports in mind"? Pretty sure it's far from their top priority and they'll get around to it when they want or if they are feeling incentives by money to do so. Are you kidding limenade? Blizzard has been saying they have eSports in mind with SC2 since like beta... wtf are you talking about ...This sucks that they aren't following through with it though T_T | ||
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TheLOLas
United States646 Posts
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ReketSomething
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Areon
United States273 Posts
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
On April 15 2012 13:15 LimeNade wrote: From the OP " For a game that was designed with esports in mind, Blizzard sure does make an effort to ensure that no one can play the game in a group setting." LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL someone show me documentation of when blizzard officials ever said anything bout Sc2 "designed with esports in mind"? Pretty sure it's far from their top priority and they'll get around to it when they want or if they are feeling incentives by money to do so. They've had it in mind since the inception of the game. Development of StarCraft II as an e-sport is one of Blizzard's highest priorities. | ||
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SeraKuDA
Canada343 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
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FlyingToilet
United States840 Posts
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BretZ
United States1510 Posts
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Steelo_Rivers
United States1968 Posts
On April 15 2012 12:20 No_Roo wrote: Pretty sure this is fake, and that blizzard has no such policy towards multiple connections from a single IP. As some one who has organzied LAN events with much more than 10 people, I've never had to contact blizzard to warn them about multiple logins from a single IP, and neither have the LAN centers that we've been to. well it happened with mlg a couple of times soo... | ||
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Bashnek
Australia895 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
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Rumpus
United States136 Posts
Not to mention the massive balance and design holes this game possesses. They don't give a flying fuck about E-Sports, they have a tiny little blog post about events every other week on their site. On top of that, they make tournaments pay, even when organizers are the only one getting screwed when a disconnect happens (usually B.net's fault by the way), and no sort of compromise for tournaments in terms of LAN. Why do people believe this garbage? Starcraft 2 was not designed for E-Sports, that was a blatant lie, one of many from Blizzard's lies since SC2's beta. Remember the chat channels, shared replays, and clan support promises? | ||
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
Edit: That said they should probably have a special support number that gets in contact with the people in charge of white-listing events to get these situations handled as fast as possible. They're not gonna add LAN, as they've said millions of times, so I don't see the point in using this to whine more about that. At most a re-connect feature, but it's not like that will solve the blacklisting problem anyway. | ||
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Lokian
United States699 Posts
Don't think Blizzard will have LAN for sc2 at all... If they did, i would be kinda dissappointed that they folded so easily to the community. Only because I think being connected to the internet is a great idea... for business of course. But yea, sometimes its just the internet. sometimes it's blizzards side that chokes. i can't seem to blame anything... except the technology of our times... heh. | ||
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UmbraaeternuS
Chile476 Posts
On April 15 2012 13:29 AeroEffect wrote: well it happened with mlg a couple of times soo... This. I don't think it's fake. I still remember Dallas 2010 and all the issues at the time. | ||
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On April 15 2012 13:38 Bashnek wrote: i understand them not adding LAN, but they really need to clean up their act white the blacklisting thing, i mean, i get why they blacklist places, but major tournaments? and when people have gone and MADE the arrangements with blizz beforehand? I am sad. They probably don't intentionally blacklist big events. They likely just have a policy to blacklist any ip or ip-range with an extraordinarily large number of connections to prevent unauthorized events, heavy botting, or attacks on the bnet servers. It sounds as if someone bungled the whitelisting of the event. If Blizzard didn't want to whitelist it, they would just have said that when asked to whitelist it. Likely somewhere someone did something wrong so it didn't get added to the whitelist, or maybe it was added so early that it was automatically removed before the event, we don't really know. Such policies are fairly standard and very useful, but if they are too aggressive (10 connection per ip sounds laughably small; even schools where a few people play occasionally on laptops could get blacklisted with such a policy) or if you screw up the whitelisting procedure, then they are terrible. Assuming the tournament actually followed proper procedures, as it seems, this is quite a big screw up from Blizzard, but these days such things are not really unexpected. I don't understand why Blizzard doesn't put a little effort into growing the e-sports scene that has proven repeatedly that it wants to grow around Blizzard titles. Functionality to resume from replays is a 1-day coding job if you have the source code. Proper chat channels, clan support, and other UI features are also easy additions. It will take a week at most, even if they have a terribly inflexible codebase. They have a legitimate reason for not adding LAN (fearing piracy), but if they invested 100-200 man hours every couple of months in improving their game for esports they would likely increase their sales of expansions drastically and it improves their brand a lot which will benefit them when they want to sell other titles like Warcraft 4 (if such a thing ever comes), new WoW expansions, or Diablo 3. | ||
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