EPTOtherwise though, I feel like most of what you said are fair comparisons, and for the most part sc2 players already are the celebrities. Although sponsors support teams, its the players that end up getting the sponsors views. Sponsors supporting teams is also a much safer venture. It is far easier to fall from the top as a sc2 pro compared to a tennis pro(as far as I can tell, it seems I hear about the same tennis pro's all the time in the news). Having teams to support players in their ups and downs helps players maintain their careers and ability to practice far easier, and it makes it far less of a risky investment as a sponsor. The chances of a team like EG not having at least one of their players get some sponsorship views in is pretty low. Compared that to the chances of someone like White-Ra not be seen in a tournament due to bad luck. Hell, I watched a majority of the IPL stream this past weekend and I can't remember seeing one White-Ra game.
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Sikly
United States413 Posts
Otherwise though, I feel like most of what you said are fair comparisons, and for the most part sc2 players already are the celebrities. Although sponsors support teams, its the players that end up getting the sponsors views. Sponsors supporting teams is also a much safer venture. It is far easier to fall from the top as a sc2 pro compared to a tennis pro(as far as I can tell, it seems I hear about the same tennis pro's all the time in the news). Having teams to support players in their ups and downs helps players maintain their careers and ability to practice far easier, and it makes it far less of a risky investment as a sponsor. The chances of a team like EG not having at least one of their players get some sponsorship views in is pretty low. Compared that to the chances of someone like White-Ra not be seen in a tournament due to bad luck. Hell, I watched a majority of the IPL stream this past weekend and I can't remember seeing one White-Ra game. | ||
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khanofmongols
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MountainGoat
United States508 Posts
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Ryusei-R1
United States2106 Posts
that is all. | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
It's much later in their lives, and at a point where there's a good chance of success, that the players transfer to the 'adult' world of handlers without team affiliation. Small money = teams, big money = managers. *Oh, and it's a natural transition for the player to have a representative who takes care of the interest of the player. As it stands, the SC2 teams really hold all the cards when dealing with players - except for the very best, who can pick and choose their team. | ||
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Jarree
Finland1004 Posts
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Gl!tch
United States573 Posts
I really think teams are having more traction in SCII though. This may be because of the huge importance of teams in the sport at the moment, as a player cant live off of prize winnings alone (unlike tennis where millions of dollars are made and a player could go without sponsorships if they wanted too.) | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On April 10 2012 10:06 Jarree wrote: No teams? Davis cup = team league. davis cup is the wcg of tennis aka no one cares | ||
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AlexanderDebois
Kyrgyzstan38 Posts
Not to mention it allows a place for players to be recognized and get familair with televised matches before entering individual competition. | ||
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Noro
Canada991 Posts
I like how many parallels there are between the two... Very interesting. | ||
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Mobius_1
United Kingdom2763 Posts
But teams are evolutions of clans as competitive gaming became progaming, it helps new players rise up through the ranks, through scouting, being signed, and practice and coaching with the team. I feel the team structure is good for ESPORTS, as without it, a lot of players would find it harder to compete and also travel abroad to attend tournaments, not to mention it seems that teamless players tend to perform worse than those with teams, so I doubt teams will want to just disband. | ||
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Meteora.GB
Canada2479 Posts
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Ace1123
Philippines1187 Posts
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danson
United States689 Posts
On April 10 2012 09:14 paintfive wrote: The future of PRO SC2 will be PRO SC1 get out i like the post, and official ATP-style point system would be amazing but it would require some sort of governing organization to decide point values for various tournaments, and getting collaborating with the koreans on this could be a problem. not sure i TOTALLY agree with your arguement that all sponsors should be individual, because while tennis has davis cup, which isnt that big of a deal, sc2 has (slightly) more emphasis on team leagues, and sc1 has even more. | ||
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ePdeLay
Australia220 Posts
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aka_star
United Kingdom1546 Posts
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Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
On April 10 2012 09:36 Daniel C wrote: Interesting, well written post. Poster above: in F1, its not 1v1, right? in F1 its free for all :D or AT vs AT vs AT vs AT vs AT vs AT vs AT vs AT :D | ||
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divito
Canada1213 Posts
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J_Slim
United States199 Posts
Also, tennis can be considered a team sport. Think back to high school tennis matches. Two school teams played each other with their top 6 or so players playing 1v1 matches. Whichever school won more matches, won the meet. Similar to how some team competitions in SC operate. | ||
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Babru
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If SC2 would ever reach such a point I think the streched out league format is great for team vs team and the single event format is great for individual vs individual. A streched out league format for 1v1 could also work if done right, however i must admit that NASL is not at the top of my sc2 following priorities today (neither is the GSTL though). Even when its a team vs team league the hype will still mostly be for certain individuals. Its exciting to follow individuals in a streched out teamleague and see what record they gonna get etc, but its also fun to have your team that you cheer for (look at the crazy fan girls in korea who belong to team fan clubs etc). So in my perfect sc2 world we have a big teamleague (fittingly it could be one that takes place in korea and one for outside of korea since we all cant play on the same server due to lag reasons) that stretches over a longer time (a CW could be a 5 x bo5 1v1s for example) and eventually reaches playoffs and then a big finale, and then we have these big individual events that spans over a number of days that takes place consistantly once a month (or perhaps more like once a 1 and ½ month). Obviously its a huge challange to get the SC2 scene to such a place though, BW certainly wouldnt have reached its point with all these great and solid teams if the players and teams hadnt created what become KeSPA. Surely it could be done without such an organization but i dont see that happening in the near future when it comes to SC2. However, the well functioning SC2 ladder is actually something that gives less incentives to form prohouses and limiting your practise partners (which would be the main factor in forming serious and loyal teams) like what has happend in the BW scene, but over time if SC2 becomes serious enough it might still reach that point. | ||
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