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[D] Why the future of Pro-SC2 should be Tennis - Page 9

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Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
April 10 2012 21:29 GMT
#161
On April 10 2012 23:47 Mattchew wrote:
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On April 10 2012 23:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
As both a tennis instructor and a StarCraft player, I really do see a lot of similarities between the games/ sports, and I think tennis is the most relatable traditional sport to StarCraft.

Nice job with the explanation, OP

As an ex-player (trained with one of the guys on your top earners list ) I completely agree. I would love for a tournament to implement a 2 week offline tournament like one of the Tennis majors.


I dont see that happening for a very long time. The #1 thing teams struggle with is getting enough sponsors so they can afford to send their players to a 3 day even. You now want to increase the cost of board by 4.5 as much....unless the event is wulling to pay for players rooms i dont see it happening this decade
ishyishy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
April 10 2012 21:41 GMT
#162
I hope that the best and most consistant players of sc2 rise to the top. I hope 6/8 players of every tournament top 8 are the same names every month or whatever. Those people should get all of the "riches and glory" and all of the "good" players should be forced to best those players to get money/attention. I like that model.

If this so called "broodwar apocolypse" happens and all these sc1 pros dominate sc2 and foreigners go extinct from top end tournaments, then so be it! It will happen for an obvious reason, if it happens. All of the players that are doing "ok" right now, I hope they get pushed out of the game if they dont keep up in skill.

MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 22:12:13
April 10 2012 22:11 GMT
#163
Random tennis question but do ATP rankings give seedings for all Majors (e.g. Wimbledon / US Open) or are there seperate qualis? Also think that its a pretty cool analogy.
Tehs Tehklz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States330 Posts
April 10 2012 22:29 GMT
#164
On April 10 2012 09:07 YMCApylons wrote:
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How is it that the actual athlete looks like the bigger nerd here?

"Fucking Boxer!" or "Only in tennis..." ?
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
April 10 2012 22:37 GMT
#165
Great post with specific and well thought insight.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 22:46:29
April 10 2012 22:40 GMT
#166
On April 11 2012 07:11 MoonfireSpam wrote:
Random tennis question but do ATP rankings give seedings for all Majors (e.g. Wimbledon / US Open) or are there seperate qualis? Also think that its a pretty cool analogy.

I think Grand Slams are all 128 player single elimination brackets with the top 32 on ATP points seeded into the tournament (skipping those that cancel their attendance). Winning a grand slam gets you 2000 points, which is enough to maintain your spot in the top-32 for the next 12 months, and thus be seeded for all other grand slams, including the next version of the grand slam you won. The other 96 spots are part qualifier, part at the tournaments discretion.

I think there's obvious benefits to this, if all 'major' tournaments in the SC2 scene applied a similar system. Seeding a GSL winner into all foreign tournaments, seeding a big foreign tournament winner into code S: It would make the scene more consistent are allow for better storylines to develop. It would ofc require tournaments to get rid of the current bogus group phases and adopt brackets where all players have to win an equal amount of rounds to win a tournament.

It wouldn't even have to apply scene wide, you obviously can't include things like invitationals, but that's where tournaments could use their own discretion in choosing who to invite.
absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
April 10 2012 22:42 GMT
#167
As others have said, I agree with a lot of what you say except the team issue. Players do not become good in SC2 without teammates to hone their skills with.
Thief @ #teamliquid @ Quakenet
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
April 10 2012 22:46 GMT
#168
Tennis evolved the way it did because of the nature of the game. Forcing Starcraft 2 to evolve the way tennis evolved can't be good in the long run. Just let things run their course, everything will work out for the best.
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3803 Posts
April 10 2012 23:37 GMT
#169
I would say your comparison of the importance of the individual player is spot on and is what makes RTS pro-gaming and tennis comparable.

Your suggestions revolving around this to improve the scene are sound.

When it comes to your perspective of team league I fully reject your assertions.

The importance of teams come from
A) Collection of star players
B) Greater exposure to lesser know players who excel in the playing format where you can't prepare for any opponent beyond your first.

Teams in rts pro-gaming is what makes it uniquiely pro-gaming and not tennis.

All of your suggestions to revamp the structure and attitude towards team building are terrible.
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