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HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
April 08 2012 01:27 GMT
#161
I don't get why people are saying "omg i'm master now i'm going to have to play against plats qq".

They said slightly better or worse. For us master players I'm assuming this will mean a few gm's and a few high diamonds, much the same it is right now depending on where you are in master league.

Chill, I don't think this will make that much difference....
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Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
April 08 2012 01:29 GMT
#162
The more I think about this, The more I just don't really know what to think.
I feel like the ladder already does this..
Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.
Kumiho~
Profile Joined April 2012
5 Posts
April 08 2012 01:32 GMT
#163
Are these changes coming with the new season?
kofman
Profile Joined August 2011
Andorra698 Posts
April 08 2012 02:54 GMT
#164
I really like this change. This means that I will play against more GM's, maybe I'll play against some famous professionals!
zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
April 08 2012 02:56 GMT
#165
As a mid-high master I'm glad I'll be playing more pros because of this change.
CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
April 08 2012 03:05 GMT
#166
Perhaps this is a way to address the MMR issues 2v2 players have been having.
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
KRee
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada13 Posts
April 08 2012 03:06 GMT
#167
My problem with this is that the only way that us lower-level players have to improve is the ladder. This makes it so that some of your games will hardly allow you to improve at all, playing against people who are above or below your skill level on purpose. Seems to me it makes it hard for lower-level players to improve, and high level players will hate it anyways since it makes ladder less viable if you're just stomping noobs all the time.
UmiNotsuki
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States633 Posts
April 08 2012 03:06 GMT
#168
Not a fan of this idea, frankly. I love that I can reliably have a struggle with my opponents on ladder without feeling utterly outmatched. Maybe they should introduce this for bronze-plat or something so the lower level, generally more casual players can enjoy it while the try-hards and good players can have reliably good games.
UmiNotsuki.111 (NA), UNTReborn.932 (EU), UmiNotsuki (iCCup) -- You see that text I wrote above this? I'll betcha $5 that you disagree :D
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
April 08 2012 03:09 GMT
#169
It's already quite wide, sometimes you play people who are just abysmal and sometimes you play people who are really good relative to your skill level. I can't see the need for this, but if they are doing it, hopefully I'm not getting matched against a progamer one game and someone with 20 APM the next.
Icekommander
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada483 Posts
April 08 2012 03:09 GMT
#170
I think that people are putting much more weight into this than they should be. We don't know the effect yet - and certainly you won't have GM players playing Diamond, or any such nonsense. Furthermore, I don't know how many people have had experience playing someone much better than you, but often there are typically a few stark differences. Maybe a timing you didn't know existed, or a weird build-order that catches you by surprise. I doubt the differences will be large enough that you are getting outclassed in each and every department.
Time Flies like an arrow. Fruit Flies like a banana.
Drium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States888 Posts
April 08 2012 03:11 GMT
#171
Cool maybe i can finally play against the pros!
KwanROLLLLLLLED
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
April 08 2012 03:19 GMT
#172
hehe now i wont feel bad when it matches me against reallly really bad players like diamonds when Im mid masteres xD
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EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
April 08 2012 03:25 GMT
#173
Fuck yah, this is going to motivate me to ladder more.

Matched up against diamonds = pull out the mothership/BC rush strats for the lols.

Matched up against GMs/top masters = pull out the most abusive strategies that I can execute perfectly up until the 5 minute mark that denies scouting and pray for the best.

Going to queue some ladder matches at lunch instead of playing customs^^
TKHawkins
Profile Joined October 2011
United States103 Posts
April 08 2012 03:26 GMT
#174
This just means that fewer people are laddering and is the system's way to adjust.

They can't standardize players as well now because there are fewer people at your exact skill level. Which means the system will now have to pull from a wider skill gap to compare you to the same number of people.
chadissilent
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1187 Posts
April 08 2012 03:27 GMT
#175
The moment I match against a mid-master NA player is the exact moment I switch to solely playing on Korea.
GoodRiot
Profile Joined September 2011
United States75 Posts
April 08 2012 03:29 GMT
#176
Lets just give it a shot (like you have a choice).
peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
April 08 2012 03:30 GMT
#177
Wasn't this the issue that they had in GM? I hope that they are going to change it for the tippy top level of play, when watching streams at least, the pros will stop some guy and then play vs someone that is a little bit closer to their skill level.
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#178
lol I'm waiting to get queued up against a bronze level player. "Slightly lower" I guess we will see!
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
Icekommander
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada483 Posts
April 08 2012 03:51 GMT
#179
On April 08 2012 12:27 chadissilent wrote:
The moment I match against a mid-master NA player is the exact moment I switch to solely playing on Korea.


If you play at the same skill level on both servers, then the variance should be the same, so you should play the same quality of players (Unless you are at the point where you are already are favoured against a large majority of your opponents on NA)
Time Flies like an arrow. Fruit Flies like a banana.
LittleRagey
Profile Joined August 2011
United States24 Posts
April 08 2012 05:36 GMT
#180
Looking forward to this. It has a lot of potential. It could also help with ladder anxiety knowing that you may not get matched up with someone much more skilled than you.
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