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Ziktomini
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom377 Posts
April 07 2012 00:18 GMT
#141
To counteract this they should increase the maximum mmr.
ipwntbarney
Profile Joined September 2011
United States141 Posts
April 07 2012 00:26 GMT
#142
I don't see why people are so worried that the pros won't be able to ladder anymore. If pros are trying to seriously practice, then they'll be playing with practice partners where they can try out the specific strategy they're trying to work on. The only time serious pros ladder is when they're streaming or messing around...
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
April 07 2012 00:28 GMT
#143
Such a huge improvement. Search time is too long currently.
MethodSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States928 Posts
April 07 2012 00:28 GMT
#144
Could be interesting. Now all they need to do is show mmr
ZerO_0
Profile Joined October 2011
United States137 Posts
April 07 2012 00:29 GMT
#145
I'm excited for the change can't wait I just hope I don't get roflstomped by any one. Hopefully now I'll finely get promoted I can hope
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit. Aristotle
SirPinky
Profile Joined February 2011
United States525 Posts
April 07 2012 00:36 GMT
#146
Good post. Thanks for the info.
How much better to get wisdom than gold; to get insight rather than silver!
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
April 07 2012 00:41 GMT
#147
i guess they should put back the win/lose stats for diamonds now since they wont 50/50
erazerr
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia86 Posts
April 07 2012 00:47 GMT
#148
vs the lower players and then you lose tons of points to them cheesing you.. thats my only concern
DjRetro
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Chile309 Posts
April 07 2012 01:26 GMT
#149
We have to see these stuff in action... sounds nice as first impression.
SpaceSynth-ItaloDisco-HiNRG http://www.radiostaddenhaag.com/
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
April 07 2012 01:32 GMT
#150
man I can't wait to get online to start practicing just to hit 5 diamond retards in a row.

Such a joke blizzard. How could you possibly make your matchmaking worse?
TheToaster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States280 Posts
April 07 2012 02:13 GMT
#151
I personally find playing against severely lower ranked players a huge anxiety issue. If someone isn't playing standard, then I start to get a little hesitant and make dumb mistakes. Honestly, all my game winnings rely on playing someone in my league, who performs similar strategies/styles per race as everyone else. This creates the origins of my anxiety.

For example, if I see a Terran player rush for Banshees, without the 111 style Siege Tanks as a follow up, I immediately expand after their failed attack (btw I'm Protoss). But I've sadly lost to Silver league players who rush Banshee, fail horribly, then somehow win with some massively late bio push with Stim and Ghost, even though they spent shit tons on Banshees and Cloak. This nonsensical way of playing Starcraft 2 is a huge nuisance to play against because I can never tell if the other player is performing some elite strategy I've never encountered, or is simply the big noob that I suspect them to be.

With that being said, I still find this change to be quite exciting. Because this also means I'll be playing against players of higher caliber to learn new things. In my PvT match up, Terran players honestly suck at dropping my base, even though they are in Platinum league along with me. But I've played Diamond Terran who are simply amazing at their decisions to drop, and playing against them has taught me a lot.
Oh, get a job? Just get a job? Why don't I strap on my job helmet, squeeze down into a job cannon, and fire off into job land, where jobs grow on jobbies!
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
April 07 2012 02:19 GMT
#152
I think this is a great idea for one season, it lets people who always complain "Oh i am really master level material i just have a little more to go etc.." really get to play vs higher ranked people and for the lower bronze -->Platinums get a chance to see (if they don't follow SC2 seriously) what the skill gap between Gold -->Diamond. If i was in master league it would be fun as well to get the small chance to play vs some pros. I think the EU ladder will be the best for this as most foreigner pros are on this ladder.

For the casual gamer in SK good luck and god speed...you will need it.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
GoStu
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada60 Posts
April 07 2012 02:26 GMT
#153
I'm interested. It'll give me more of a chance to pull off some sick upsets. Alternatively, I can stomp some people a bit lower.
"Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense"
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
April 07 2012 02:31 GMT
#154
Not sure how much I like this... getting paired with "bad" terrans is always going to be a nightmare because they can derp their way to victory against much more skilled players pretty frequently, but then getting matched against zergs who are way better than me will be kinda good because I, too, can get lucky and derp my way to victory. I play protoss. And of course pvp is really volatile and big skill gaps can be worked around with cannon rush/proxy gates.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 02:52:24
April 07 2012 02:45 GMT
#155
On April 07 2012 11:13 TheToaster wrote:
I personally find playing against severely lower ranked players a huge anxiety issue. If someone isn't playing standard, then I start to get a little hesitant and make dumb mistakes. Honestly, all my game winnings rely on playing someone in my league, who performs similar strategies/styles per race as everyone else. This creates the origins of my anxiety.

For example, if I see a Terran player rush for Banshees, without the 111 style Siege Tanks as a follow up, I immediately expand after their failed attack (btw I'm Protoss). But I've sadly lost to Silver league players who rush Banshee, fail horribly, then somehow win with some massively late bio push with Stim and Ghost, even though they spent shit tons on Banshees and Cloak. This nonsensical way of playing Starcraft 2 is a huge nuisance to play against because I can never tell if the other player is performing some elite strategy I've never encountered, or is simply the big noob that I suspect them to be.

With that being said, I still find this change to be quite exciting. Because this also means I'll be playing against players of higher caliber to learn new things. In my PvT match up, Terran players honestly suck at dropping my base, even though they are in Platinum league along with me. But I've played Diamond Terran who are simply amazing at their decisions to drop, and playing against them has taught me a lot.


Don't complain about people playing "non-standard" strategies, especially if they beat you with them. If you make blind assumptions and greedy decisions then you're just as deserving of a loss as someone who cheeses and never expands.

And it's possible that your mindset is blinding you to other potential improvements that you could be making. Like in that example you gave, expanding after his banshee rush might have actually been viable but if you didn't make a good number of observers/gateways/units afterwards then that might have been a bigger problem. Or maybe you didn't have the watchtower, or poke his ramp, or spread your sentries. I can't really say much more without seeing the replay, but in general it's not very productive to blame scrubs for playing cheesy/cheap/dumb
"See you space cowboy"
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
April 07 2012 03:02 GMT
#156
On April 07 2012 11:45 Erik.TheRed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 11:13 TheToaster wrote:
I personally find playing against severely lower ranked players a huge anxiety issue. If someone isn't playing standard, then I start to get a little hesitant and make dumb mistakes. Honestly, all my game winnings rely on playing someone in my league, who performs similar strategies/styles per race as everyone else. This creates the origins of my anxiety.

For example, if I see a Terran player rush for Banshees, without the 111 style Siege Tanks as a follow up, I immediately expand after their failed attack (btw I'm Protoss). But I've sadly lost to Silver league players who rush Banshee, fail horribly, then somehow win with some massively late bio push with Stim and Ghost, even though they spent shit tons on Banshees and Cloak. This nonsensical way of playing Starcraft 2 is a huge nuisance to play against because I can never tell if the other player is performing some elite strategy I've never encountered, or is simply the big noob that I suspect them to be.

With that being said, I still find this change to be quite exciting. Because this also means I'll be playing against players of higher caliber to learn new things. In my PvT match up, Terran players honestly suck at dropping my base, even though they are in Platinum league along with me. But I've played Diamond Terran who are simply amazing at their decisions to drop, and playing against them has taught me a lot.


Don't complain about people playing "non-standard" strategies, especially if they beat you with them. If you make blind assumptions and greedy decisions then you're just as deserving of a loss as someone who cheeses and never expands.

And it's possible that your mindset is blinding you to other potential improvements that you could be making. Like in that example you gave, expanding after his banshee rush might have actually been viable but if you didn't make a good number of observers/gateways/units afterwards then that might have been a bigger problem. Or maybe you didn't have the watchtower, or poke his ramp, or spread your sentries. I can't really say much more without seeing the replay, but in general it's not very productive to blame scrubs for playing cheesy/cheap/dumb


I completely agree, when ever i am teaching someone starcraft and they complain about being in Bronze -->gold because of the cheese i tell them its great to learn cheese at the lower levels because you get better at recognizing when something is off. At the higher levels people cheese but they are really fucking good at it so its good to get some practice.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
StatixEx
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United Kingdom779 Posts
April 07 2012 23:55 GMT
#157
so? time to pwn some newbs?
ezGoin
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1 Post
April 08 2012 01:20 GMT
#158
Am i the only person that has already had this experience already, i play against plat and gold players all the timem i am in silver league btw. Does no one else share my experiences on ladder, it seems that this change will result in me playing people even higher like diamond, right?
pt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 01:22:35
April 08 2012 01:22 GMT
#159
wrong thread
EG-TL!
Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
April 08 2012 01:22 GMT
#160
make it a player's choice

*boom* the problem solved
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