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United States12281 Posts
On April 07 2012 04:33 trGKakarot wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 04:10 Excalibur_Z wrote:
So what this means is that for Season 7, all players' sigmas will increase (and perhaps have a larger minimum value).
It's kind of strange to me how the player search range will expand in both directions, though, given that they say "While it’s awesome that most games are very close, this also means that both players need to constantly be at the top of their games, because the slightest mistake usually means defeat. While we think this is a fun way to play, we’re not sure if it’s fun for every match to be this way." It seems like you would expect the search range to expand only downward rather than upward and downward, which would have the effect of your average game being slightly easier than it's been in the past (except for players at the very bottom). Sorry, but that makes no sense. What is downward for one player, is upward for the other. It is impossible to expand only in one direction.
Well, sort of. There are adjustments that they could make to accommodate this. If the search results were always 100% random in that range though, you're right, it wouldn't be possible because the larger lower bound for one player means a larger upper bound for another.
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This sounds like it will make ladder much more interesting. Although I hope I don't get matched vs bad players very often.
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This honestly seams like it won't make any difference unless you're in High Masters. I doubt I'll notice it in Platinum.
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Hopefully this is only for the lower leagues... I feel bad for all the pros who get paired up against me on ladder, now they'll play even worse players :p.
On April 07 2012 03:57 khanofmongols wrote:
Won't this fix the whole queuing for like 5 minutes for some pros issue?
This never happens unless you play at like 5am, and even then after a long time it'll pair you up against a drastically higher/lower skilled player any ways (saw a GM beat a Diamond for 1 point after searching for 10 mins at 4am).
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On April 07 2012 01:27 GreEny K wrote:
This sucks, I don't want to play someone who will destroy me without trying... I like to get better, but getting beat on by a pro doesn't help me...
First. Getting destroyed by better players is a better learning experience than beating somebody your own level and if you knew how to read you would know it said sightly. I know you live in a world where you ladder with the avg bronze, but now you will be facing them scary high bronze
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wow this actually sounds really awesome! can't wait :D
i haven't thought about this but I like the idea of it!
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On April 07 2012 05:05 ZAiNs wrote:Hopefully this is only for the lower leagues... I feel bad for all the pros who get paired up against me on ladder, now they'll play even worse players :p. Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 03:57 khanofmongols wrote:
Won't this fix the whole queuing for like 5 minutes for some pros issue? This never happens unless you play at like 5am, and even then after a long time it'll pair you up against a drastically higher/lower skilled player any ways (saw a GM beat a Diamond for 1 point after searching for 10 mins at 4am).
That cannot happen a GM can only be faced aginst high masters like top 8 (I am pulling that number out of my ass, but it is literally only the top 8 if not less) and what will happen now is GMs will face the top 10 master boo fucking who. Ohh and that story of yours it was probably a GM smurf locked by the season lock on his new account.
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No one will be able to tell because all their games will be different.
Interesting, but only they will be able to really tell a difference between the previous change and now.
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I wasn't thrilled about this at first but the more I started thinking about the more I'm willing to give this a chance.
This gives every game a certain increase in risk vs reward that makes every ladder game more meaningful. Think about it.
You're playing every game as though you could be against someone much better or much worse than you, either way you're going to be more encouraged to play your best.
It also provides some much needed help for the people stuck in bronze league to get out.
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Seems like Pro players will take a big hit to their practice on ladder since they are at the top anyway.
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On April 07 2012 03:37 SupLilSon wrote:
Seems ok for the average player.. i guess? But what about for the GM players who are already playing random no name top 9 masters?
Them playing random top 10 and 11 no name high masters wont change much.
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[b]On April 07 2012 05:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
I wasn't thrilled about this at first but the more I started thinking about the more I'm willing to give this a chance.
This gives every game a certain increase in risk vs reward that makes every ladder game more meaningful. Think about it.
You're playing every game as though you could be against someone much better or much worse than you, either way you're going to be more encouraged to play your best.
It also provides some much needed help for the people stuck in bronze league to get out. Learn to read it said slightly.
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i don't see anything wrong with this. you may get stomped by better players but likewise you may stomp lesser players (or get stomped too lol)
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Interesting experiment! I've always enjoyed stomping noobs on the ladder but I already hate when I have to play vs GM players, but I get I'd feel more okay about it if I was facing MillStephano :p
I do feel abit bad for the very top of GM players. Their winrates are already completely ridiculous and that's not gonna get better if they have to face even worse players every once in a while.
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I really feel like people are overreacting to this change. It will just offer people the chance to play in a broader skill range, not play people "Miles better than them" And to be honest, even if it doesn't work, I love seeing Blizzard trying new things, just to see how they work.
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I don't mind them trying for a season, but I am not sure if I actually agree with this.
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thank goodness. thank GOODNESS omg. i'm sick of playing super tryhard only-use-optimal-strats teams when i just wanna try stuff out =(
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This will be interesting, not really sure how the current MMR is cuz sometimes im playing top 16 GM players and sometimes im playing mid-master players.
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On April 07 2012 05:54 thezanursic wrote:[b] Show nested quote +On April 07 2012 05:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
I wasn't thrilled about this at first but the more I started thinking about the more I'm willing to give this a chance.
This gives every game a certain increase in risk vs reward that makes every ladder game more meaningful. Think about it.
You're playing every game as though you could be against someone much better or much worse than you, either way you're going to be more encouraged to play your best.
It also provides some much needed help for the people stuck in bronze league to get out. Learn to read it said slightly.
Slightly is ambigious enough for me to assume that what I said is still very relevant.
Especially considering the match making can already pair you with people that are much higher than you already at times, altering that even slightly expands that window even further.
Plus if you read Blizzard's intentions, they said they are trying to offer someone an opportunity to get promoted faster if they win against higher rated players which obviously means they are tweaking it enough to allow that to happen.
So yea, I definitely can read.
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