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On March 31 2012 09:50 drbrown wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:42 rotegirte wrote:On March 31 2012 09:40 drbrown wrote:On March 31 2012 09:24 mcc wrote:On March 31 2012 09:21 drbrown wrote:On March 31 2012 08:43 masterbreti wrote:
I think people just saying its Jessica being Jessica are just plain silly imo.
She is doing something I think a lot of people want to do. and hell, I know most streamers who would like to give trolls a peice of their own medicine. Prime TV has many of the same Issues, and I would sure as hell like to sue them. but I don't because I'm not weathly enough to sure someone.
More power to Jessica to do this. Don't cross her or she will make sure you pay. Most people have the common sense to NOT CARE about internet haters and trolls, and even if you take offense from them (which is dumb) up to seven years in prison? How can anyone feel that random insults on the internet is reason enough to lock someone up for seven years? She is, as she almost always does, overreacting. You understand that she is not deciding the sentence, but courts do that based on the laws created by lawmakers. Complain about South Korea laws that have such high sentences for this. Yes but she knows what might be in store for him and despite this she presses the issue instead of just telling herself "oh well haters gonna hate." And a store owner should let all thieves go that "just stole a candy bar", because jeez it's only one fucking candy bar? That's a silly argument, it's not the same thing. Random haters on the internet aren't doing any damage by acting childish, you just sigh, ban the guy and move on, thats all there is to it.
Oh of course they are doing damage. Real, even monetary damage. They lower the quality of your stream chat, forums and platforms. Thats tangible damage to your business. That is why TotalBiscuit only has chat enabled for paying subscribers.
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On March 31 2012 09:42 EngrishTeacher wrote:God I hate Jessica so much, she's so fugly and acts like such a bitch; I feel terrible for boxer. Everyone not from Korea should bombard her with insults regarding her genitalia  I'd like to see her try and sue internationally.
are these types of posts fine in TL?
let me know, so i can get ready once naniwa do something shocking :D
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Poor Boxer. No wonder he doesn't want to settle down.
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On March 31 2012 09:54 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:53 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:49 snailz wrote:On March 31 2012 09:45 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:44 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:42 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:38 snailz wrote:On March 31 2012 09:32 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:30 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:30 Gheed wrote:
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I'd be a bloody billionaire.
Once again, harassment is not the same as one-off, lackadaisical trolling. I don't see any harassment here. I see some dumb kid saying dumb things on the internet. There is no magic leap from trolling to harassment just because it continues on for a period of time. It's either acceptable or it isn't. you got it all wrong buddy. you were thaught that by being anonimous on the internet you can do that shit. you can't. people shouldn't be able to. this shit should happen in the west, maybe then internet would actually serve it's original purpose, and not be a retard magnet. On March 31 2012 09:30 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:25 snailz wrote:On March 31 2012 09:21 Pantythief wrote:
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It's been going great thus far.
As the mentally healthy being I am, I don't let random people on the internet get to me. seriously, how old are you?????? if somebody "harassed incessantly and viciously online" your sister or girlfriend, you would SERIOUSLY tell her to grow a pair, and in fact, "that's what you've been doing" there's a huge difference between harassment and "random stuff from internet getting to me" I'm almost 19 years old. Why would I care on behalf of my sister if someone on the internet, possibly thousands of miles away, who's probably 15 years old, is using vulgar language? You know what I'd do-- I'd tell me sister to block the silly bastard and tell her about life. I'd tell her not to pay attention and be a better person. But you know what else? Even if I did have a sister, I know she'd be smarter than that. I know she'd not pay attention to silly stuff on the internet -- and you know why? Because it's silly. well, 19 is way over enough to understand difference between harassment and "using vulgar language", right? you don't sue people for using vulgar language, not even in the states. but you do sue them for harassment, even in third world countries. so, please learn the difference... No, I don't. Just because you would be so premature to sue someone for insulting you or harassing you on the Internet it does not mean that everyone else would. I wouldn't, I'm smarter than that, and it saddens me to see how many people would go this far to "make an example" on the internet. You will not accomplish anything, ever. Had it been real life, I'd care, then I would consider it serious, the internet is not. Additionally, I'm 99.9% certain that the guy wouldn't behave the way he did had it been in real life. This should emphasize my point. Spare us your condescension, thanks. 19 year old who's smarter than everyone; where have I heard that before? How ironic. ;-) actually it is not, two out of your three posts contained you glorifying your intelligence and big heart. it's kinda silly, that's why that aussie guy quoted you with LOL, but i just didn't wanna be mean and point it out... oh well I'm not glorifying anything. I'm not saying I'm better than you, I'm saying I'm better than going about sueing people for insulting or harassing me on the internet, considering I don't actually do so. I personally don't think it's silly of me to not give in to this kind of behaviour. Additionally, I could say the same to you, that I think you're silly for being willing to sue people for harassing you on the internet, when you could get rid of them in an instant. Why is that wrong of me? "I'm not saying I'm better than you, I'm just saying I'm better at being a person than you."
If you don't have anything intelligent to say, I suggest you stop replying back to me. 
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On March 31 2012 09:55 masakenji wrote:
are these types of posts fine in TL?
let me know, so i can get ready once naniwa do something shocking :D
So if it were allowed, you would make posts like these? Hmm...
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On March 31 2012 09:54 Keone wrote:
To be honest, Koreans have a different approach to internet. Because Koreans have to use their "citizen id #" online, people treat online interactions just like real interactions in the real world.
As such, if someone was literally coming to the SlayerS house and saying these things to her face, would you guys be as sympathetic?
Obviously Jessica is an overreacting and oversensitive person, so the troll on the other side obviously knew he was playing with fire, so full props to him: he got what he wanted. Congrats to him!
If you're going to use a real life analogy, you have to use mail. Like the things people used send to each other in envelopes. Because before the internet, that's how you would send messages to people.
Sending a message is not the same thing as going to someone's house and yelling at them.
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lol watch out for what you say all ya trolls out there
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On March 31 2012 09:57 Gheed wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:54 Keone wrote:
To be honest, Koreans have a different approach to internet. Because Koreans have to use their "citizen id #" online, people treat online interactions just like real interactions in the real world.
As such, if someone was literally coming to the SlayerS house and saying these things to her face, would you guys be as sympathetic?
Obviously Jessica is an overreacting and oversensitive person, so the troll on the other side obviously knew he was playing with fire, so full props to him: he got what he wanted. Congrats to him! If you're going to use a real life analogy, you have to use mail. Like the things people used send to each other in envelopes. Because before the internet, that's how you would send messages to people. Sending a message is not the same thing as going to someone's house and yelling at them.
How do you think me sending letters threatening to rape a woman would be treated?
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Look, not defending the guy, but what did Jessica expect really?
She wants to be the media/main person at Slayers, of course people will have mixed reactions. It's internet, guys get that a lot, too. May be they don't go around suing, because they understand what internet is. I don't know how it is in Korea, but in other places, people say anything they want over the internet.
I'd say leave the job if you are that sensitive.
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On March 31 2012 09:58 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:57 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:54 Keone wrote:
To be honest, Koreans have a different approach to internet. Because Koreans have to use their "citizen id #" online, people treat online interactions just like real interactions in the real world.
As such, if someone was literally coming to the SlayerS house and saying these things to her face, would you guys be as sympathetic?
Obviously Jessica is an overreacting and oversensitive person, so the troll on the other side obviously knew he was playing with fire, so full props to him: he got what he wanted. Congrats to him! If you're going to use a real life analogy, you have to use mail. Like the things people used send to each other in envelopes. Because before the internet, that's how you would send messages to people. Sending a message is not the same thing as going to someone's house and yelling at them. How do you think me sending letters threatening to rape a woman would be treated?
She's suing him for "cyber defamation," not threatening bodily harm. Stop conflating the issue.
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The Internet would be a great place if the trolls would just vanish. Might as well start with this one.
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On March 31 2012 09:57 MichaelDonovan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:55 masakenji wrote:
are these types of posts fine in TL?
let me know, so i can get ready once naniwa do something shocking :D So if it were allowed, you would make posts like these? Hmm...
i meant get ready to read more of these type of posts on a thread, not post them. 
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On March 31 2012 09:56 Pantythief wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:54 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:53 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:49 snailz wrote:On March 31 2012 09:45 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:44 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:42 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:38 snailz wrote:On March 31 2012 09:32 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:30 Shiori wrote:
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Once again, harassment is not the same as one-off, lackadaisical trolling. I don't see any harassment here. I see some dumb kid saying dumb things on the internet. There is no magic leap from trolling to harassment just because it continues on for a period of time. It's either acceptable or it isn't. you got it all wrong buddy. you were thaught that by being anonimous on the internet you can do that shit. you can't. people shouldn't be able to. this shit should happen in the west, maybe then internet would actually serve it's original purpose, and not be a retard magnet. On March 31 2012 09:30 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:25 snailz wrote:
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seriously, how old are you??????
if somebody "harassed incessantly and viciously online" your sister or girlfriend, you would SERIOUSLY tell her to grow a pair, and in fact, "that's what you've been doing"
there's a huge difference between harassment and "random stuff from internet getting to me" I'm almost 19 years old. Why would I care on behalf of my sister if someone on the internet, possibly thousands of miles away, who's probably 15 years old, is using vulgar language? You know what I'd do-- I'd tell me sister to block the silly bastard and tell her about life. I'd tell her not to pay attention and be a better person. But you know what else? Even if I did have a sister, I know she'd be smarter than that. I know she'd not pay attention to silly stuff on the internet -- and you know why? Because it's silly. well, 19 is way over enough to understand difference between harassment and "using vulgar language", right? you don't sue people for using vulgar language, not even in the states. but you do sue them for harassment, even in third world countries. so, please learn the difference... No, I don't. Just because you would be so premature to sue someone for insulting you or harassing you on the Internet it does not mean that everyone else would. I wouldn't, I'm smarter than that, and it saddens me to see how many people would go this far to "make an example" on the internet. You will not accomplish anything, ever. Had it been real life, I'd care, then I would consider it serious, the internet is not. Additionally, I'm 99.9% certain that the guy wouldn't behave the way he did had it been in real life. This should emphasize my point. Spare us your condescension, thanks. 19 year old who's smarter than everyone; where have I heard that before? How ironic. ;-) actually it is not, two out of your three posts contained you glorifying your intelligence and big heart. it's kinda silly, that's why that aussie guy quoted you with LOL, but i just didn't wanna be mean and point it out... oh well I'm not glorifying anything. I'm not saying I'm better than you, I'm saying I'm better than going about sueing people for insulting or harassing me on the internet, considering I don't actually do so. I personally don't think it's silly of me to not give in to this kind of behaviour. Additionally, I could say the same to you, that I think you're silly for being willing to sue people for harassing you on the internet, when you could get rid of them in an instant. Why is that wrong of me? "I'm not saying I'm better than you, I'm just saying I'm better at being a person than you." I don't think it's fair to have this discussing with you.
Well going through your posts, you really never addressed the actual criticism, namely being completely self-centered in your argumentation.
When you find it silly what she did, that's fine. That's your opinion. Your argument ended there.
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On March 31 2012 09:52 Fionn wrote:
If she had done this a few weeks earlier, she could have won the E-Sports Tournament. How unlucky.
She's just trying to stay relevant. 
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typical jessica lol
On March 31 2012 09:46 skeldark wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:42 EngrishTeacher wrote:God I hate Jessica so much, she's so fugly and acts like such a bitch; I feel terrible for boxer. Everyone not from Korea should bombard her with insults regarding her genitalia I'd like to see her try and sue internationally. You realise you did a crime by writing this? in korean, german , american and also chinese law.... Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:46 give.ViviD wrote:
The hell is wrong with that woman? Hormone-overload? No normal person ever tries to fucking pursue legal action against slander on the internet by an anonymous user, wtf... Millions do it every day? btw you dont really think you are anonymous do you? ------------ Its not jessica who makes drama in this case. Its you guys....
you sure about that?
she released screen shots of the chat, she probably also contacted that gaming website
could have just done it quietly without alarming the presses
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On March 31 2012 09:59 Gheed wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:58 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:57 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:54 Keone wrote:
To be honest, Koreans have a different approach to internet. Because Koreans have to use their "citizen id #" online, people treat online interactions just like real interactions in the real world.
As such, if someone was literally coming to the SlayerS house and saying these things to her face, would you guys be as sympathetic?
Obviously Jessica is an overreacting and oversensitive person, so the troll on the other side obviously knew he was playing with fire, so full props to him: he got what he wanted. Congrats to him! If you're going to use a real life analogy, you have to use mail. Like the things people used send to each other in envelopes. Because before the internet, that's how you would send messages to people. Sending a message is not the same thing as going to someone's house and yelling at them. How do you think me sending letters threatening to rape a woman would be treated? She's suing him for "cyber defamation," not threatening bodily harm. Stop conflating the issue.
So words written on paper are how much more bodily than on a screen?
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On March 31 2012 09:57 Gheed wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:54 Keone wrote:
To be honest, Koreans have a different approach to internet. Because Koreans have to use their "citizen id #" online, people treat online interactions just like real interactions in the real world.
As such, if someone was literally coming to the SlayerS house and saying these things to her face, would you guys be as sympathetic?
Obviously Jessica is an overreacting and oversensitive person, so the troll on the other side obviously knew he was playing with fire, so full props to him: he got what he wanted. Congrats to him! If you're going to use a real life analogy, you have to use mail. Like the things people used send to each other in envelopes. Because before the internet, that's how you would send messages to people. Sending a message is not the same thing as going to someone's house and yelling at them.
police actually comes to your door for hate mail, or threats written in a mail, if you're dumb enough to let them track you. especially if it's more than one letter, which this was, if we go with the analogy...
meaning, you can actually get a court order that orders you not to have contact with that person ever again, or else...
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huge LOL at this whole situation
This girl is 'World Champion Attention Whore', with an award in special category 'Celebrity Primadonna Bitch'
Takes it to extremes hithrto undreamed of ....
She thrives on it. Wallows in her own glory. Shes basking in the eyes of millions (in her mind) it right now
Thats what's really goin on here and is truly obnoxious yet amuzing all at once.
User was warned for this post
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On March 31 2012 09:59 rotegirte wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:56 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:54 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:53 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:49 snailz wrote:On March 31 2012 09:45 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:44 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:42 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:38 snailz wrote:On March 31 2012 09:32 Gheed wrote:
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I don't see any harassment here. I see some dumb kid saying dumb things on the internet. There is no magic leap from trolling to harassment just because it continues on for a period of time. It's either acceptable or it isn't. you got it all wrong buddy. you were thaught that by being anonimous on the internet you can do that shit. you can't. people shouldn't be able to. this shit should happen in the west, maybe then internet would actually serve it's original purpose, and not be a retard magnet. On March 31 2012 09:30 Pantythief wrote:
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I'm almost 19 years old. Why would I care on behalf of my sister if someone on the internet, possibly thousands of miles away, who's probably 15 years old, is using vulgar language? You know what I'd do-- I'd tell me sister to block the silly bastard and tell her about life. I'd tell her not to pay attention and be a better person.
But you know what else? Even if I did have a sister, I know she'd be smarter than that. I know she'd not pay attention to silly stuff on the internet -- and you know why? Because it's silly. well, 19 is way over enough to understand difference between harassment and "using vulgar language", right? you don't sue people for using vulgar language, not even in the states. but you do sue them for harassment, even in third world countries. so, please learn the difference... No, I don't. Just because you would be so premature to sue someone for insulting you or harassing you on the Internet it does not mean that everyone else would. I wouldn't, I'm smarter than that, and it saddens me to see how many people would go this far to "make an example" on the internet. You will not accomplish anything, ever. Had it been real life, I'd care, then I would consider it serious, the internet is not. Additionally, I'm 99.9% certain that the guy wouldn't behave the way he did had it been in real life. This should emphasize my point. Spare us your condescension, thanks. 19 year old who's smarter than everyone; where have I heard that before? How ironic. ;-) actually it is not, two out of your three posts contained you glorifying your intelligence and big heart. it's kinda silly, that's why that aussie guy quoted you with LOL, but i just didn't wanna be mean and point it out... oh well I'm not glorifying anything. I'm not saying I'm better than you, I'm saying I'm better than going about sueing people for insulting or harassing me on the internet, considering I don't actually do so. I personally don't think it's silly of me to not give in to this kind of behaviour. Additionally, I could say the same to you, that I think you're silly for being willing to sue people for harassing you on the internet, when you could get rid of them in an instant. Why is that wrong of me? "I'm not saying I'm better than you, I'm just saying I'm better at being a person than you." I don't think it's fair to have this discussing with you. Well going through your posts, you really never addressed the actual criticism, namely being completely self-centered in your argumentation. When you find it silly what she did, that's fine. That's your opinion. Your argument ended there.
Considering that I'm sharing my point of view, yes, I think it's fair of me to be self-centered. Perhaps you don't understand that.
PS: It appears you don't understand anything of what I've said. I'm not arguing with anyone, I'm sharing my opinion, and I did it once until someone disagreed and I apparently had to explain myself until the guy felt the need to tell me I'm a bad person for being "cool" on this matter.
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