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On March 31 2012 09:39 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:36 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:34 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:32 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:30 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:30 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:26 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
C'mon folks, If I had known I could sue people for saying really awful things to me and about me on the internet, I would have cracked a hundred thousand dollars by the time I was 16. I'd be a bloody billionaire. Once again, harassment is not the same as one-off, lackadaisical trolling. I don't see any harassment here. I see some dumb kid saying dumb things on the internet. There is no magic leap from trolling to harassment just because it continues on for a period of time. It's either acceptable or it isn't. There's a difference between being rude once and repeatedly being rude. I'm not sure how you don't see that. The first is just rudeness, and the second crosses the line represents a consistent effort to bring someone down. I can call someone an asshole once and just be a jerk, but if I call them once a day and call them an asshole, or call them an asshole every time I see them, it's harassment. No, there isn't. Also calling someone on the phone =/= using a publicly available chat room If you go out of your way to come to a presentation I'm giving, even if it's open to the public, and berate me, and if you continue to do this time after time, it's harassment.
Berating you by shouting would be disturbing the peace, a crime. Posting messages on the internet does not meet this qualification. Further, saying mean things on the internet is either allowed, or it isn't. Doing it repeatedly makes no difference.
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On March 31 2012 09:42 Pantythief wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:38 snailz wrote:On March 31 2012 09:32 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:30 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:30 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:26 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
C'mon folks, If I had known I could sue people for saying really awful things to me and about me on the internet, I would have cracked a hundred thousand dollars by the time I was 16. I'd be a bloody billionaire. Once again, harassment is not the same as one-off, lackadaisical trolling. I don't see any harassment here. I see some dumb kid saying dumb things on the internet. There is no magic leap from trolling to harassment just because it continues on for a period of time. It's either acceptable or it isn't. you got it all wrong buddy. you were thaught that by being anonimous on the internet you can do that shit. you can't. people shouldn't be able to. this shit should happen in the west, maybe then internet would actually serve it's original purpose, and not be a retard magnet. On March 31 2012 09:30 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:25 snailz wrote:On March 31 2012 09:21 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:19 GloPikkle wrote:On March 31 2012 09:17 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:16 GloPikkle wrote:On March 31 2012 09:13 WArped wrote:
Surely he cannot be sentenced, for the good of all humanity.. this is ridiculous. I would argue for the good of all humanity, he should be sentenced. Internet harassment can be pretty damaging. Yeah you can just say "grow a pair", but what if it was your kid, or wife, or sibling, or gf, or anyone that you cared about being harassed incessantly and viciously online. Would you tell your loved one to "grow a pair"? Of course. Let me know how that goes for you. It's been going great thus far. As the mentally healthy being I am, I don't let random people on the internet get to me. seriously, how old are you?????? if somebody "harassed incessantly and viciously online" your sister or girlfriend, you would SERIOUSLY tell her to grow a pair, and in fact, "that's what you've been doing" there's a huge difference between harassment and "random stuff from internet getting to me" I'm almost 19 years old. Why would I care on behalf of my sister if someone on the internet, possibly thousands of miles away, who's probably 15 years old, is using vulgar language? You know what I'd do-- I'd tell me sister to block the silly bastard and tell her about life. I'd tell her not to pay attention and be a better person. But you know what else? Even if I did have a sister, I know she'd be smarter than that. I know she'd not pay attention to silly stuff on the internet -- and you know why? Because it's silly. well, 19 is way over enough to understand difference between harassment and "using vulgar language", right? you don't sue people for using vulgar language, not even in the states. but you do sue them for harassment, even in third world countries. so, please learn the difference... No, I don't. Just because you would be so premature to sue someone for insulting you or harassing you on the Internet it does not mean that everyone else would. I wouldn't, I'm smarter than that, and it saddens me to see how many people would go this far to "make an example" on the internet. You will not accomplish anything, ever. Had it been real life, I'd care, then I would consider it serious, the internet is not. Additionally, I'm 99.9% certain that the guy wouldn't behave the way he did had it been in real life. This should emphasize my point.
Spare us your condescension, thanks. 19 year old who's smarter than everyone; where have I heard that before?
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If I had a penny for every time someone talks shit on the internet, I'd be able to buy the universe.
I love SlayerS and all but overreacting to a comment on the internet like this is surprising to me..
Perhaps I'm missing something here...is internet chatting in Korea a lot more civil??
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On March 31 2012 09:43 Gheed wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:39 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:36 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:34 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:32 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:30 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:30 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:26 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
C'mon folks, If I had known I could sue people for saying really awful things to me and about me on the internet, I would have cracked a hundred thousand dollars by the time I was 16. I'd be a bloody billionaire. Once again, harassment is not the same as one-off, lackadaisical trolling. I don't see any harassment here. I see some dumb kid saying dumb things on the internet. There is no magic leap from trolling to harassment just because it continues on for a period of time. It's either acceptable or it isn't. There's a difference between being rude once and repeatedly being rude. I'm not sure how you don't see that. The first is just rudeness, and the second crosses the line represents a consistent effort to bring someone down. I can call someone an asshole once and just be a jerk, but if I call them once a day and call them an asshole, or call them an asshole every time I see them, it's harassment. No, there isn't. Also calling someone on the phone =/= using a publicly available chat room If you go out of your way to come to a presentation I'm giving, even if it's open to the public, and berate me, and if you continue to do this time after time, it's harassment. Berating you by shouting would be disturbing the peace, a crime. Posting messages on the internet does not meet this qualification. Further, saying mean things on the internet is either allowed, or it isn't. Doing it repeatedly makes no difference.
Disturbing the peace is a crime for which you'd be charged by the state. If I file a lawsuit against you, which is what Jessica is doing, it's a totally separate issue. Jesus.
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Holy fuck, the idea of punishing someone to that extent for insulting someone is insane.
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Well on the flip side of this coin i bet people will wisen the fuck up and be less douchey ...... so as crazy as it is ... kind of a positive spin ..... i guess .... ?
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On March 31 2012 09:44 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:42 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:38 snailz wrote:On March 31 2012 09:32 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:30 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:30 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:26 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
C'mon folks, If I had known I could sue people for saying really awful things to me and about me on the internet, I would have cracked a hundred thousand dollars by the time I was 16. I'd be a bloody billionaire. Once again, harassment is not the same as one-off, lackadaisical trolling. I don't see any harassment here. I see some dumb kid saying dumb things on the internet. There is no magic leap from trolling to harassment just because it continues on for a period of time. It's either acceptable or it isn't. you got it all wrong buddy. you were thaught that by being anonimous on the internet you can do that shit. you can't. people shouldn't be able to. this shit should happen in the west, maybe then internet would actually serve it's original purpose, and not be a retard magnet. On March 31 2012 09:30 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:25 snailz wrote:On March 31 2012 09:21 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:19 GloPikkle wrote:On March 31 2012 09:17 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:16 GloPikkle wrote:On March 31 2012 09:13 WArped wrote:
Surely he cannot be sentenced, for the good of all humanity.. this is ridiculous. I would argue for the good of all humanity, he should be sentenced. Internet harassment can be pretty damaging. Yeah you can just say "grow a pair", but what if it was your kid, or wife, or sibling, or gf, or anyone that you cared about being harassed incessantly and viciously online. Would you tell your loved one to "grow a pair"? Of course. Let me know how that goes for you. It's been going great thus far. As the mentally healthy being I am, I don't let random people on the internet get to me. seriously, how old are you?????? if somebody "harassed incessantly and viciously online" your sister or girlfriend, you would SERIOUSLY tell her to grow a pair, and in fact, "that's what you've been doing" there's a huge difference between harassment and "random stuff from internet getting to me" I'm almost 19 years old. Why would I care on behalf of my sister if someone on the internet, possibly thousands of miles away, who's probably 15 years old, is using vulgar language? You know what I'd do-- I'd tell me sister to block the silly bastard and tell her about life. I'd tell her not to pay attention and be a better person. But you know what else? Even if I did have a sister, I know she'd be smarter than that. I know she'd not pay attention to silly stuff on the internet -- and you know why? Because it's silly. well, 19 is way over enough to understand difference between harassment and "using vulgar language", right? you don't sue people for using vulgar language, not even in the states. but you do sue them for harassment, even in third world countries. so, please learn the difference... No, I don't. Just because you would be so premature to sue someone for insulting you or harassing you on the Internet it does not mean that everyone else would. I wouldn't, I'm smarter than that, and it saddens me to see how many people would go this far to "make an example" on the internet. You will not accomplish anything, ever. Had it been real life, I'd care, then I would consider it serious, the internet is not. Additionally, I'm 99.9% certain that the guy wouldn't behave the way he did had it been in real life. This should emphasize my point. Spare us your condescension, thanks. 19 year old who's smarter than everyone; where have I heard that before?
How ironic. ;-)
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Some people just go out of their way to be offended. Jail? That's completely ridiculous. You can always, you know, ignore/block the person's IP.
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Of course he wouldn't act that way in real life, because there are consequences. Being anonymous is just a chance for you to say whatever the fuck you want without fear, and I didn't know threatening to rape and calling her a cunt was considering trolling.
Bullying is bullying
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I might be wrong, but isn't Korea pretty harsh about this sort of thing anyway?
Of course it's a bit extreme, but from my limited knowledge I thought this was (relatively) commonplace.
The punishment is a bit over the top, though.
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On March 31 2012 09:44 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:43 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:39 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:36 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:34 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:32 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:30 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:30 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:26 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
C'mon folks, If I had known I could sue people for saying really awful things to me and about me on the internet, I would have cracked a hundred thousand dollars by the time I was 16. I'd be a bloody billionaire. Once again, harassment is not the same as one-off, lackadaisical trolling. I don't see any harassment here. I see some dumb kid saying dumb things on the internet. There is no magic leap from trolling to harassment just because it continues on for a period of time. It's either acceptable or it isn't. There's a difference between being rude once and repeatedly being rude. I'm not sure how you don't see that. The first is just rudeness, and the second crosses the line represents a consistent effort to bring someone down. I can call someone an asshole once and just be a jerk, but if I call them once a day and call them an asshole, or call them an asshole every time I see them, it's harassment. No, there isn't. Also calling someone on the phone =/= using a publicly available chat room If you go out of your way to come to a presentation I'm giving, even if it's open to the public, and berate me, and if you continue to do this time after time, it's harassment. Berating you by shouting would be disturbing the peace, a crime. Posting messages on the internet does not meet this qualification. Further, saying mean things on the internet is either allowed, or it isn't. Doing it repeatedly makes no difference. Disturbing the peace is a crime for which you'd be charged by the state. If I file a lawsuit against you, which is what Jessica is doing, it's a totally separate issue. Jesus.
I was using disturbing the peace to show your analogy fails, not because I misunderstand what a law suit is.
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On March 31 2012 09:38 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:34 MichaelDonovan wrote:On March 31 2012 09:28 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:27 MichaelDonovan wrote:On March 31 2012 09:26 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:23 MichaelDonovan wrote:On March 31 2012 09:20 Exempt. wrote:
it isn't ridiculous. This mentality has to end. Someday these people will slowly be purged from existence. The question is, will we have to horrible laws like Sopa to get it over with?
Someone has to a take a stand, it might as well be someone particular where it's taken very seriously. There is no reason to take a stand. None. Not a single reason. What happened to "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me?" It is absolutely nonsensical to claim that trolls must inevitably be "purged from existence." If it bothers you, just don't listen to them. Be the bigger man and forget about it. What happened? People realized that that saying is absolute bullshit. Words and verbal harassment can be just as hurtful as physical abuse, and there are a plethora of suicide cases to back that up. inb4 someone claims that i'm arguing jessica is going to kill herself That saying is not bullshit at all. Words can only hurt you if you let them. Suicide cases do not prove that the "sticks and stones" saying is bullshit. It just proves that those people let words hurt them. Nothing else. Oh get off your high horse. The fact of the matter is that people are hurt by these things, and that's all that's necessary to win a lawsuit or have someone issued a restraining order. Just because you don't think they have a good reason to be hurting isn't sufficient because lawsuits are based on damages. I'd also be willing to bet that if you were locked up in prison for a year and constantly berated, it'd "get" to you after awhile. Shit's all relative mate. So because it is a fact that people allow words to drive them to suicide, laws should be made to stop people from saying words? What exactly are you advocating? A restraining order, I could see. Absolutely. In the case of harassment, yes I think a restraining order is fine. However, suing for anything other than a restraining order is nonsense. I am offended by your words, thus you must pay me 500 dollars. Garbage argument. Personally, I do not believe that the rest of us should suffer restrictions on what we can and cannot say just because some people can't handle words. That's nonsense. I will note that this is an American prospective on free speech. This influences my opinions greatly. It's not an American perspective; it's the perspective of an immature child who's never felt any true sense of loss or encountered authentic harassment or abuse. Like it or not, Jessica has been under a microscope ever since she married Boxer, and even then, netizens were delving deep into her personal life (stuff that isn't any of their business) to explain why she wasn't fit for Boxer. She has every reason to be wary of people who repeatedly harass her. Also, yeah, laws should be made to allow people who are being berated by other people for no good reason to pay damages if it can be demonstrated to a court of law that authentic mental and/or physical negative consequences have resulted. If your abnormal pestering of me directly causes me to undergo a nervous breakdown due to, say, stress, then I have every fucking right to sue you for screwing with my life. I'm gonna go out on a limb her and assume you've never taken even an elementary psych course, but I suggest you do so, lest you think that people simply choose to be anxious or offended by things. If that were the case, why in the holy mother of fuck would anyone choose to be in tears because of something? Why not choose to be joyous?
Two things: First, I realized from the first sentence of that post that your perspective is garbage and I'm no longer interested in listening to you. Second, I have a masters degree in psychology and I'm working toward my phD. Say goodbye to your limb I guess.
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On March 31 2012 09:45 binski wrote:
Of course he wouldn't act that way in real life, because there are consequences. Being anonymous is just a chance for you to say whatever the fuck you want without fear, and I didn't know threatening to rape and calling her a cunt was considering trolling.
Bullying is bullying
A+.
If you think this is "just trolling" or "not serious," you're just wrong.
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The hell is wrong with that woman? Hormone-overload? No normal person ever tries to fucking pursue legal action against slander on the internet by an anonymous user, wtf...
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On March 31 2012 09:42 EngrishTeacher wrote:God I hate Jessica so much, she's so fugly and acts like such a bitch; I feel terrible for boxer. Everyone not from Korea should bombard her with insults regarding her genitalia  I'd like to see her try and sue internationally.
You realise you did a crime by writing this? in korean, german , american and also chinese law....
On March 31 2012 09:46 give.ViviD wrote:
The hell is wrong with that woman? Hormone-overload? No normal person ever tries to fucking pursue legal action against slander on the internet by an anonymous user, wtf...
Millions do it every day? btw you dont really think you are anony do you?
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Its not jessica who makes drama in this case. Its you guys....
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What I got from this is that it wasn't a 1-off 1-time thing- more that this guy was hounding the slayers stream for a long time. Also- I don't want to set double standards; Orb was fired for less -.-
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On March 31 2012 09:42 Pantythief wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:38 snailz wrote:On March 31 2012 09:32 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:30 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:30 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:26 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
C'mon folks, If I had known I could sue people for saying really awful things to me and about me on the internet, I would have cracked a hundred thousand dollars by the time I was 16. I'd be a bloody billionaire. Once again, harassment is not the same as one-off, lackadaisical trolling. I don't see any harassment here. I see some dumb kid saying dumb things on the internet. There is no magic leap from trolling to harassment just because it continues on for a period of time. It's either acceptable or it isn't. you got it all wrong buddy. you were thaught that by being anonimous on the internet you can do that shit. you can't. people shouldn't be able to. this shit should happen in the west, maybe then internet would actually serve it's original purpose, and not be a retard magnet. On March 31 2012 09:30 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:25 snailz wrote:On March 31 2012 09:21 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:19 GloPikkle wrote:On March 31 2012 09:17 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:16 GloPikkle wrote:On March 31 2012 09:13 WArped wrote:
Surely he cannot be sentenced, for the good of all humanity.. this is ridiculous. I would argue for the good of all humanity, he should be sentenced. Internet harassment can be pretty damaging. Yeah you can just say "grow a pair", but what if it was your kid, or wife, or sibling, or gf, or anyone that you cared about being harassed incessantly and viciously online. Would you tell your loved one to "grow a pair"? Of course. Let me know how that goes for you. It's been going great thus far. As the mentally healthy being I am, I don't let random people on the internet get to me. seriously, how old are you?????? if somebody "harassed incessantly and viciously online" your sister or girlfriend, you would SERIOUSLY tell her to grow a pair, and in fact, "that's what you've been doing" there's a huge difference between harassment and "random stuff from internet getting to me" I'm almost 19 years old. Why would I care on behalf of my sister if someone on the internet, possibly thousands of miles away, who's probably 15 years old, is using vulgar language? You know what I'd do-- I'd tell me sister to block the silly bastard and tell her about life. I'd tell her not to pay attention and be a better person. But you know what else? Even if I did have a sister, I know she'd be smarter than that. I know she'd not pay attention to silly stuff on the internet -- and you know why? Because it's silly. well, 19 is way over enough to understand difference between harassment and "using vulgar language", right? you don't sue people for using vulgar language, not even in the states. but you do sue them for harassment, even in third world countries. so, please learn the difference... No, I don't. Just because you would be so premature to sue someone for insulting you or harassing you on the Internet it does not mean that everyone else would. I wouldn't, I'm smarter than that, and it saddens me to see how many people would go this far to "make an example" on the internet. You will not accomplish anything, ever. Had it been real life, I'd care, then I would consider it serious, the internet is not. Additionally, I'm 99.9% certain that the guy wouldn't behave the way he did had it been in real life. This should emphasize my point.
did you seriously just now said that someone insulting me and harassing me on the internet is a same thing? ofcourse i wouldn't sue someone for random insults. pricks don't even get bans for that thing. you have people in this thread writing insults @ jessica, that don't even get a warning.
harassment on the other hand is when you repeatadly do shit that you otherwise wouldn't, because you and everybody around you know it's wrong.
you're from Denmark, you really should know better than this...
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I'm fully in support of all of this. People get away with some pretty revolting crap and nothing happens.
You go girl!!
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On March 31 2012 09:44 Proof. wrote:
If I had a penny for every time someone talks shit on the internet, I'd be able to buy the universe.
I love SlayerS and all but overreacting to a comment on the internet like this is surprising to me..
Perhaps I'm missing something here...is internet chatting in Korea a lot more civil??
then you must be a troller yourself to experience that much trolling.
i'd never being repeatedly troll before besides league of legends XD
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Jessica Drama on the Month!!!every month a new topic..Now i kinda dnt feel that she deserves to be called empress anymore
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