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On March 31 2012 10:00 rotegirte wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:59 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:58 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:57 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:54 Keone wrote:
To be honest, Koreans have a different approach to internet. Because Koreans have to use their "citizen id #" online, people treat online interactions just like real interactions in the real world.
As such, if someone was literally coming to the SlayerS house and saying these things to her face, would you guys be as sympathetic?
Obviously Jessica is an overreacting and oversensitive person, so the troll on the other side obviously knew he was playing with fire, so full props to him: he got what he wanted. Congrats to him! If you're going to use a real life analogy, you have to use mail. Like the things people used send to each other in envelopes. Because before the internet, that's how you would send messages to people. Sending a message is not the same thing as going to someone's house and yelling at them. How do you think me sending letters threatening to rape a woman would be treated? She's suing him for "cyber defamation," not threatening bodily harm. Stop conflating the issue. So words written on paper are how much more bodily than on a screen?
There's clearly a language barrier issue here. She is, at least according to the OP, suing this guy for "defamation," not "threatening to injure her."
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ROFL 10 years?.. She should focusing on convicting UK players because our government is willing to send our citizens to other countries for harmless crimes i,e last months piracy case. Making an example of UK citizens is our new export 
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On March 31 2012 08:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
They back-traced his IP and called the Cyber Police.
Consequences will never be the same !
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I think people talk too much crap about her... she should be allowed to sue this asshat
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On March 31 2012 10:01 Pantythief wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:59 rotegirte wrote:On March 31 2012 09:56 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:54 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:53 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:49 snailz wrote:On March 31 2012 09:45 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:44 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:42 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:38 snailz wrote:
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you got it all wrong buddy. you were thaught that by being anonimous on the internet you can do that shit. you can't. people shouldn't be able to. this shit should happen in the west, maybe then internet would actually serve it's original purpose, and not be a retard magnet.
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well, 19 is way over enough to understand difference between harassment and "using vulgar language", right? you don't sue people for using vulgar language, not even in the states. but you do sue them for harassment, even in third world countries. so, please learn the difference... No, I don't. Just because you would be so premature to sue someone for insulting you or harassing you on the Internet it does not mean that everyone else would. I wouldn't, I'm smarter than that, and it saddens me to see how many people would go this far to "make an example" on the internet. You will not accomplish anything, ever. Had it been real life, I'd care, then I would consider it serious, the internet is not. Additionally, I'm 99.9% certain that the guy wouldn't behave the way he did had it been in real life. This should emphasize my point. Spare us your condescension, thanks. 19 year old who's smarter than everyone; where have I heard that before? How ironic. ;-) actually it is not, two out of your three posts contained you glorifying your intelligence and big heart. it's kinda silly, that's why that aussie guy quoted you with LOL, but i just didn't wanna be mean and point it out... oh well I'm not glorifying anything. I'm not saying I'm better than you, I'm saying I'm better than going about sueing people for insulting or harassing me on the internet, considering I don't actually do so. I personally don't think it's silly of me to not give in to this kind of behaviour. Additionally, I could say the same to you, that I think you're silly for being willing to sue people for harassing you on the internet, when you could get rid of them in an instant. Why is that wrong of me? "I'm not saying I'm better than you, I'm just saying I'm better at being a person than you." I don't think it's fair to have this discussing with you. Well going through your posts, you really never addressed the actual criticism, namely being completely self-centered in your argumentation. When you find it silly what she did, that's fine. That's your opinion. Your argument ended there. Considering that I'm sharing my point of view, yes, I think it's fair of me to be self-centered. Perhaps you don't understand that.
What part of "your opinion is perfectly fine, but just an opinion" didn't you get?
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On March 31 2012 10:01 aka_star wrote:ROFL 10 years?.. She should focusing on convicting UK players because our government is willing to send our citizens to other countries for harmless crimes i,e last months piracy case. Making an example of UK citizens is our new export
10 years is just the maximum possible sentence for defamation in Korea (I presume). Obviously, this case is not so severe that it would warrant such a sentence. Fine, restraining order and/or perhaps a nominal settlement are what I expect.
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On March 31 2012 10:02 Marti wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 08:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
They back-traced his IP and called the Cyber Police. Consequences will never be the same !
Oh god I lold.
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Fuck her. I wasn't really a fan of SlayerS before this, but she isn't helping the team at all by doing this. To sue somebody over something so trivial is ridiculously childish. If it's that big of a deal, she could just ban the guy.
User was warned for this post
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On March 31 2012 10:01 Gheed wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 10:00 rotegirte wrote:On March 31 2012 09:59 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:58 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:57 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:54 Keone wrote:
To be honest, Koreans have a different approach to internet. Because Koreans have to use their "citizen id #" online, people treat online interactions just like real interactions in the real world.
As such, if someone was literally coming to the SlayerS house and saying these things to her face, would you guys be as sympathetic?
Obviously Jessica is an overreacting and oversensitive person, so the troll on the other side obviously knew he was playing with fire, so full props to him: he got what he wanted. Congrats to him! If you're going to use a real life analogy, you have to use mail. Like the things people used send to each other in envelopes. Because before the internet, that's how you would send messages to people. Sending a message is not the same thing as going to someone's house and yelling at them. How do you think me sending letters threatening to rape a woman would be treated? She's suing him for "cyber defamation," not threatening bodily harm. Stop conflating the issue. So words written on paper are how much more bodily than on a screen? There's clearly a language barrier issue here. She is, at least according to the OP, suing this guy for "defamation," not "threatening to injure her."
dude, at least read the OP
The screenshot provided by TIG has blurred out the context, but I assume that he/she called her things like:
"cunt, fucking suck my dick, I'll bang you, etc."
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nothing wrong with it. That guy will learn not to hide behind the face of anonymity.
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This is normal in Korea. People sue netizens all the time, and the response from people is usually positive when trolls are punished.
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Guys, lets just contact slayers sponsors saying they are doing bad things with the community, getting bad PR, and of the sorts. This is how we solved the Orb problem, im just saying. This is completely ridiculous.
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This is how the law works in Korea, he knew better.
This is actually quite common in Korea (being sued over an internet insult that is) and everyone there knows it happens and can happen.
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On March 31 2012 10:04 snailz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 10:01 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 10:00 rotegirte wrote:On March 31 2012 09:59 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:58 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:57 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:54 Keone wrote:
To be honest, Koreans have a different approach to internet. Because Koreans have to use their "citizen id #" online, people treat online interactions just like real interactions in the real world.
As such, if someone was literally coming to the SlayerS house and saying these things to her face, would you guys be as sympathetic?
Obviously Jessica is an overreacting and oversensitive person, so the troll on the other side obviously knew he was playing with fire, so full props to him: he got what he wanted. Congrats to him! If you're going to use a real life analogy, you have to use mail. Like the things people used send to each other in envelopes. Because before the internet, that's how you would send messages to people. Sending a message is not the same thing as going to someone's house and yelling at them. How do you think me sending letters threatening to rape a woman would be treated? She's suing him for "cyber defamation," not threatening bodily harm. Stop conflating the issue. So words written on paper are how much more bodily than on a screen? There's clearly a language barrier issue here. She is, at least according to the OP, suing this guy for "defamation," not "threatening to injure her." dude, at least read the OP "cunt, fucking suck my dick, I'll bang you, etc."
Do Europeans not know what "defamation" means?
Wikipedia: "Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, traducement, slander (for transitory statements), and libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)—is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image"
From the information provided to us by the OP, she is suing him for defamation, not because he threatened her.
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I don't understand, if it's legal, then of course she should be allowed to sue. If it's not the courts will throw it out. I don't understand how she could possibly be in the wrong here.
I mean, you don't get to insult someone, then whine when they use perfectly legal ways to shut you up. That's just pathetic.
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On March 31 2012 10:03 rotegirte wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 10:01 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:59 rotegirte wrote:On March 31 2012 09:56 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:54 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:53 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:49 snailz wrote:On March 31 2012 09:45 Pantythief wrote:On March 31 2012 09:44 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:42 Pantythief wrote:
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No, I don't.
Just because you would be so premature to sue someone for insulting you or harassing you on the Internet it does not mean that everyone else would. I wouldn't, I'm smarter than that, and it saddens me to see how many people would go this far to "make an example" on the internet. You will not accomplish anything, ever.
Had it been real life, I'd care, then I would consider it serious, the internet is not. Additionally, I'm 99.9% certain that the guy wouldn't behave the way he did had it been in real life. This should emphasize my point. Spare us your condescension, thanks. 19 year old who's smarter than everyone; where have I heard that before? How ironic. ;-) actually it is not, two out of your three posts contained you glorifying your intelligence and big heart. it's kinda silly, that's why that aussie guy quoted you with LOL, but i just didn't wanna be mean and point it out... oh well I'm not glorifying anything. I'm not saying I'm better than you, I'm saying I'm better than going about sueing people for insulting or harassing me on the internet, considering I don't actually do so. I personally don't think it's silly of me to not give in to this kind of behaviour. Additionally, I could say the same to you, that I think you're silly for being willing to sue people for harassing you on the internet, when you could get rid of them in an instant. Why is that wrong of me? "I'm not saying I'm better than you, I'm just saying I'm better at being a person than you." I don't think it's fair to have this discussing with you. Well going through your posts, you really never addressed the actual criticism, namely being completely self-centered in your argumentation. When you find it silly what she did, that's fine. That's your opinion. Your argument ended there. Considering that I'm sharing my point of view, yes, I think it's fair of me to be self-centered. Perhaps you don't understand that. What part of "your opinion is perfectly fine, but just an opinion" didn't you get?
So you're just going to state something completely obvious and make it sound like it's a bad thing on my end, that everything is fine and I'm completely O.K. for sharing my opinion?
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On March 31 2012 10:05 Clefairy wrote:
This is normal in Korea. People sue netizens all the time, and the response from people is usually positive when trolls are punished.
This. Hope he does get convicted.
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On March 31 2012 10:04 snailz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 10:01 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 10:00 rotegirte wrote:On March 31 2012 09:59 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:58 Shiori wrote:On March 31 2012 09:57 Gheed wrote:On March 31 2012 09:54 Keone wrote:
To be honest, Koreans have a different approach to internet. Because Koreans have to use their "citizen id #" online, people treat online interactions just like real interactions in the real world.
As such, if someone was literally coming to the SlayerS house and saying these things to her face, would you guys be as sympathetic?
Obviously Jessica is an overreacting and oversensitive person, so the troll on the other side obviously knew he was playing with fire, so full props to him: he got what he wanted. Congrats to him! If you're going to use a real life analogy, you have to use mail. Like the things people used send to each other in envelopes. Because before the internet, that's how you would send messages to people. Sending a message is not the same thing as going to someone's house and yelling at them. How do you think me sending letters threatening to rape a woman would be treated? She's suing him for "cyber defamation," not threatening bodily harm. Stop conflating the issue. So words written on paper are how much more bodily than on a screen? There's clearly a language barrier issue here. She is, at least according to the OP, suing this guy for "defamation," not "threatening to injure her." dude, at least read the OP "cunt, fucking suck my dick, I'll bang you, etc."
Ahaha you just made yourself look silly. Read that part of the OP again. It says the words on the screen shots were blurred out so the author of the OP "thinks" that was what was said. From this OP, we don't actually know if there were any threats of bodily harm. If there was, then I think she is completely justified in suing this guy. We don't know if there were though.
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On March 31 2012 09:58 Xxavi wrote:
Look, not defending the guy, but what did Jessica expect really?
She wants to be the media/main person at Slayers, of course people will have mixed reactions. It's internet, guys get that a lot, too. May be they don't go around suing, because they understand what internet is. I don't know how it is in Korea, but in other places, people say anything they want over the internet.
I'd say leave the job if you are that sensitive.
How would you know if you don't understand Korea and their internet? you say it's the internet, tell me how their internet is ..... oh wait.
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i don't know why people are so against this.
are you all closet trollers? XD
i remember a few years ago, a pit manager told a croupier. "i wanna hit your ass" she went to the union and he got demoted, and shunned by his peers.
WELL DESERVED!
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