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ProBot
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada170 Posts
March 31 2012 01:15 GMT
#401
still don't think it's stupid one thing about the internet is people say ignorant shit because there's really no accountability for anything they say ... now there is and maybe some idiots will think twice about being idiots / degrading or whatever.
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
March 31 2012 01:16 GMT
#402
On March 31 2012 10:14 MichaelDonovan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 10:08 masakenji wrote:
i don't know why people are so against this.

are you all closet trollers? XD

i remember a few years ago, a pit manager told a croupier. "i wanna hit your ass" she went to the union and he got demoted, and shunned by his peers.

WELL DESERVED!

"I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it."

-Voltaire


he didn't have poor insults with that in mind.
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F1rstAssau1t
Profile Joined November 2010
1341 Posts
March 31 2012 01:16 GMT
#403
Jessica would sue Boxer if she doesnt get what she wants at night.
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Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
March 31 2012 01:16 GMT
#404
Was he insulting Jessica in particular, or Slayers?

She may be overreacting, but it's not a wrong reaction.
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
JiPrime
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada688 Posts
March 31 2012 01:17 GMT
#405
On March 31 2012 10:09 HellionDrop wrote:
so how seriously do the Koreans judge treat cyber troll? is it serious business? i don't know where to draw the line on this one, even though i don't really think people can do/say anything on the internet.


There's a reason why most of the mainstream Korean sites reveal a part of your IP address when you post...
To prevent this BS to happen.
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
March 31 2012 01:17 GMT
#406
is this childish girl for real?
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
March 31 2012 01:17 GMT
#407
It's just...

I dunno. Can we stop making TL posts on this and just bump one SlayerS_Jessica megathread?

TL is starting to get flooded with jessica hating randoms on the internet
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
March 31 2012 01:17 GMT
#408
On March 31 2012 08:39 Shunjal wrote:
Go from the Orb thread to this one, and the opinions differ completely.


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MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
March 31 2012 01:18 GMT
#409
On March 31 2012 10:09 snailz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 10:07 MichaelDonovan wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:04 snailz wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:01 Gheed wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:00 rotegirte wrote:
On March 31 2012 09:59 Gheed wrote:
On March 31 2012 09:58 Shiori wrote:
On March 31 2012 09:57 Gheed wrote:
On March 31 2012 09:54 Keone wrote:
To be honest, Koreans have a different approach to internet. Because Koreans have to use their "citizen id #" online, people treat online interactions just like real interactions in the real world.

As such, if someone was literally coming to the SlayerS house and saying these things to her face, would you guys be as sympathetic?

Obviously Jessica is an overreacting and oversensitive person, so the troll on the other side obviously knew he was playing with fire, so full props to him: he got what he wanted. Congrats to him!


If you're going to use a real life analogy, you have to use mail. Like the things people used send to each other in envelopes. Because before the internet, that's how you would send messages to people.

Sending a message is not the same thing as going to someone's house and yelling at them.

How do you think me sending letters threatening to rape a woman would be treated?


She's suing him for "cyber defamation," not threatening bodily harm. Stop conflating the issue.


So words written on paper are how much more bodily than on a screen?


There's clearly a language barrier issue here. She is, at least according to the OP, suing this guy for "defamation," not "threatening to injure her."


dude, at least read the OP

"cunt, fucking suck my dick, I'll bang you, etc."

Ahaha you just made yourself look silly. Read that part of the OP again. It says the words on the screen shots were blurred out so the author of the OP "thinks" that was what was said. From this OP, we don't actually know if there were any threats of bodily harm. If there was, then I think she is completely justified in suing this guy. We don't know if there were though.


do you think it would be blurred out if it was about bunnies and ponies?

people don't usually go to these lenghts for random insults, just saying...


No, but what I mean to say is that it could be blurred out just for the nastiness of the words. That does not mean, however, that the words included threats of bodily harm.

This is a very important distinction, at least from my perspective because bodily threats are unacceptable and should be punished by the law. Anything else, in my opinion, should not be punished. As I have said in a previous post, this comes from an American "free speech" perspective. Thus I must acknowledge my bias in this matter.
Natheel13
Profile Joined October 2011
Korea (North)26 Posts
March 31 2012 01:18 GMT
#410
While I dont agree with nolgoithuh's actions, this really does make her, already not so great, reputation even worse and even have some effect on Slayers in general.
Marti
Profile Joined August 2011
552 Posts
March 31 2012 01:18 GMT
#411
This guy really isn't a troll. He's just plain insulting / harassing someone. There's nothing funny in insulting someone. Having said that i do find the situation hilarious.
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snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
March 31 2012 01:19 GMT
#412
On March 31 2012 10:16 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
Jessica would sue Boxer if she doesnt get what she wants at night.


i'm pretty sure she does though, he's the bloody Emperor.



(i feel so horrible that i couldn't keep that one in)
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hakureiken
Profile Joined June 2011
United States10 Posts
March 31 2012 01:19 GMT
#413
How can she exist on the internet if she treats trolling and chat in this way? I mean... Anonymity causes people to do really stupid things; but words are just words. She was under no direct threat-- if she is offended by some random troll then it is her mentality that needs to change. This type of thing won't stop, ever-- not with this lawsuit, not with future lawsuits, and not by reacting this way. I honestly think this will further feed the trolls to continue to berate her.

I guess the community gets to /popcorn as further drama unfolds. Jessica certainly is great for entertainment, but I literally have no respect for her-- she can't keep calm even under the silliest of situations. A frivolous lawsuit is more embarrassing for the slayers name than anything else.
icydergosu
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
528 Posts
March 31 2012 01:20 GMT
#414
Good luck with that, ip of the perpetrator is located in the USA (NY).
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RageOverdose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States690 Posts
March 31 2012 01:20 GMT
#415
On March 31 2012 10:18 Marti wrote:
This guy really isn't a troll. He's just plain insulting / harassing someone. There's nothing funny in insulting someone. Having said that i do find the situation hilarious.


That's true, there is nothing funny. Which is why it's easy to ignore since it's irrelevant.
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
March 31 2012 01:21 GMT
#416
On March 31 2012 10:16 radiantshadow92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 10:14 MichaelDonovan wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:08 masakenji wrote:
i don't know why people are so against this.

are you all closet trollers? XD

i remember a few years ago, a pit manager told a croupier. "i wanna hit your ass" she went to the union and he got demoted, and shunned by his peers.

WELL DESERVED!

"I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it."

-Voltaire


he didn't have poor insults with that in mind.

First, you don't know that.

Second, it doesn't really matter what specific words he had in mind when writing this. It applies to everything you could possibly say. You can't pick and choose which words you want to apply this idea to.

One exception may be threatening bodily harm. This is illegal in my country, and I think it should be.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 01:25:13
March 31 2012 01:21 GMT
#417
basically, if she is psychologically tormented by this guy then she is entitled to go ahead and present her case, hell that is what laws are there for

however, this sort of law is easily abused
does she need psychological evaluation to prove her case? does she need sponsors to talk about her character?
or does she just need a screenshot of a guy swearing in a livestream chatroom?

lots of laws are like this. if 2 girls dont like you then they can so easily tell someone you are harrassing them and totally fuck with you. nomatter what the actual circumstances really were.

this is why we are sceptical. an unlikely senario (jessica feeling genuinely harrassed/tormented - not just annoyed) combined with a very easy-to-use, open-to-definition and slippery-slope law, also combined with our general knowledge of how harmless and easy to avoid and commonplace net trolls are
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RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
March 31 2012 01:21 GMT
#418
Well... At least this will teach them trolls.

And this is going a bit too much even for Jessica.
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hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
March 31 2012 01:22 GMT
#419
On March 31 2012 10:15 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 10:12 hypercube wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:10 Champi wrote:
Taking legal action over a troll in a chatbox? fucking PATHETIC!

ban the idiot and move on with your life =/


Maybe she figures it's easier to sue one idiot than to ban 20 every week.

It's a complete non sequitur to sue someone or send them to jail. Banning is the only appropriate action.


She's not sending anyone to jail. Only the courts can do that.
BTW, not sure how it's a non sequitur. A non sequitur is a statement that has nothing to do with the argument at hand.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 31 2012 01:22 GMT
#420
On March 31 2012 10:21 MichaelDonovan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 10:16 radiantshadow92 wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:14 MichaelDonovan wrote:
On March 31 2012 10:08 masakenji wrote:
i don't know why people are so against this.

are you all closet trollers? XD

i remember a few years ago, a pit manager told a croupier. "i wanna hit your ass" she went to the union and he got demoted, and shunned by his peers.

WELL DESERVED!

"I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it."

-Voltaire


he didn't have poor insults with that in mind.

First, you don't know that.

Second, it doesn't really matter what specific words he had in mind when writing this. It applies to everything you could possibly say. You can't pick and choose which words you want to apply this idea to.

One exception may be threatening bodily harm. This is illegal in my country, and I think it should be.

Volatire. Apparently #1 supporter of sexual harassment online.
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