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snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
March 12 2012 19:12 GMT
#301
man, that stinks. i dunno much about whats happening with this whole migration thing from korean teams to foreign teams, but i dont like it.
My religion is Starcraft
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1612 Posts
March 12 2012 19:14 GMT
#302
On March 13 2012 04:11 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 04:03 Diamond wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:57 IMoperator wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:55 Lumi wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:53 IMoperator wrote:
I'm growing tired of seeing Koreans leave their teams to try to get more money :/


Yeah they should totally go nowhere in life while playing video games for us

Well, I just mean that it's less chances for a foreign player to get on a good team. Why would a big name team want to take a risk on an up and coming foreigner when they can just get a Korean that left his team?


Maybe, just maybe, foreigners can just get good instead of hoping that no one else does so?

Well, it's pretty hard to get your name out there, and even harder to get picked up by a team that can send you places. You can't compete vs. a player that was on a Korean team playing in GSL/GSTL with just online tourneys or ladder.


It's actually even harder for Koreans. They work harder, play better, struggle for limited tournaments with the highest standards for qualifying, and are still far less popular than our full stock of well-known but completely mediocre foreigner fan favorites.
twitter.com/lumigaming - DongRaeGu is the One True Dong - /r/onetruedong
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
March 12 2012 19:17 GMT
#303
On March 13 2012 04:11 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 04:03 Diamond wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:57 IMoperator wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:55 Lumi wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:53 IMoperator wrote:
I'm growing tired of seeing Koreans leave their teams to try to get more money :/


Yeah they should totally go nowhere in life while playing video games for us

Well, I just mean that it's less chances for a foreign player to get on a good team. Why would a big name team want to take a risk on an up and coming foreigner when they can just get a Korean that left his team?


Maybe, just maybe, foreigners can just get good instead of hoping that no one else does so?

Well, it's pretty hard to get your name out there, and even harder to get picked up by a team that can send you places. You can't compete vs. a player that was on a Korean team playing in GSL/GSTL with just online tourneys or ladder.


100x easier for a foreigner then a Korean these days to get your name out.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
March 12 2012 19:18 GMT
#304
On March 13 2012 04:14 Lumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 04:11 IMoperator wrote:
On March 13 2012 04:03 Diamond wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:57 IMoperator wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:55 Lumi wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:53 IMoperator wrote:
I'm growing tired of seeing Koreans leave their teams to try to get more money :/


Yeah they should totally go nowhere in life while playing video games for us

Well, I just mean that it's less chances for a foreign player to get on a good team. Why would a big name team want to take a risk on an up and coming foreigner when they can just get a Korean that left his team?


Maybe, just maybe, foreigners can just get good instead of hoping that no one else does so?

Well, it's pretty hard to get your name out there, and even harder to get picked up by a team that can send you places. You can't compete vs. a player that was on a Korean team playing in GSL/GSTL with just online tourneys or ladder.


It's actually even harder for Koreans. They work harder, play better, struggle for limited tournaments with the highest standards for qualifying, and are still far less popular than our full stock of well-known but completely mediocre foreigner fan favorites.

I'd disagree with that. If you're GM/High masters on KR you're much more likely to be picked up by a foreign team than if you were the same level on NA or EU. You probably won't get to the best of the best foreign teams, but some of the smaller teams like It's Gosu (hwangsin) iS (crazymoving), eSahara, x6 etc. would probably choose the korean in that case.
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
March 12 2012 19:18 GMT
#305
On March 13 2012 04:12 snively wrote:
man, that stinks. i dunno much about whats happening with this whole migration thing from korean teams to foreign teams, but i dont like it.


Do you also hate that Yao Ming went to play in the NBA? People go where the money is at, and as it stands the foreign scene in SC2 is stronger and has more money. That's why all the biggest boxing fights happen in Las Vegas, also. There's really nothing that anyone should be angry about, seriously. You guys should be happy for them.
KuKri
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany168 Posts
March 12 2012 19:20 GMT
#306
Go Liquid, pick him up!
Would be the best addition to date
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
March 12 2012 19:22 GMT
#307
On March 13 2012 04:17 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 04:11 IMoperator wrote:
On March 13 2012 04:03 Diamond wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:57 IMoperator wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:55 Lumi wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:53 IMoperator wrote:
I'm growing tired of seeing Koreans leave their teams to try to get more money :/


Yeah they should totally go nowhere in life while playing video games for us

Well, I just mean that it's less chances for a foreign player to get on a good team. Why would a big name team want to take a risk on an up and coming foreigner when they can just get a Korean that left his team?


Maybe, just maybe, foreigners can just get good instead of hoping that no one else does so?

Well, it's pretty hard to get your name out there, and even harder to get picked up by a team that can send you places. You can't compete vs. a player that was on a Korean team playing in GSL/GSTL with just online tourneys or ladder.


100x easier for a foreigner then a Korean these days to get your name out.

Koreans have the same exact access to the online tournaments as foreigners do. The playhem dailies, IPL qualifiers, NASL qualifiers, etc. The only problem is that many tournaments are invite only (which deserves it's own thread imo) and will not favor no name players at all, Korean or foreigner.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 19:23:38
March 12 2012 19:22 GMT
#308
On March 13 2012 04:18 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 04:14 Lumi wrote:
On March 13 2012 04:11 IMoperator wrote:
On March 13 2012 04:03 Diamond wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:57 IMoperator wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:55 Lumi wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:53 IMoperator wrote:
I'm growing tired of seeing Koreans leave their teams to try to get more money :/


Yeah they should totally go nowhere in life while playing video games for us

Well, I just mean that it's less chances for a foreign player to get on a good team. Why would a big name team want to take a risk on an up and coming foreigner when they can just get a Korean that left his team?


Maybe, just maybe, foreigners can just get good instead of hoping that no one else does so?

Well, it's pretty hard to get your name out there, and even harder to get picked up by a team that can send you places. You can't compete vs. a player that was on a Korean team playing in GSL/GSTL with just online tourneys or ladder.


It's actually even harder for Koreans. They work harder, play better, struggle for limited tournaments with the highest standards for qualifying, and are still far less popular than our full stock of well-known but completely mediocre foreigner fan favorites.

I'd disagree with that. If you're GM/High masters on KR you're much more likely to be picked up by a foreign team than if you were the same level on NA or EU. You probably won't get to the best of the best foreign teams, but some of the smaller teams like It's Gosu (hwangsin) iS (crazymoving), eSahara, x6 etc. would probably choose the korean in that case.


Sorry to tell you, you are wrong. Getting known in Korea is stupid hard unless you Top 8 a GSL Code S.


On March 13 2012 04:22 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 04:17 Diamond wrote:
On March 13 2012 04:11 IMoperator wrote:
On March 13 2012 04:03 Diamond wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:57 IMoperator wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:55 Lumi wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:53 IMoperator wrote:
I'm growing tired of seeing Koreans leave their teams to try to get more money :/


Yeah they should totally go nowhere in life while playing video games for us

Well, I just mean that it's less chances for a foreign player to get on a good team. Why would a big name team want to take a risk on an up and coming foreigner when they can just get a Korean that left his team?


Maybe, just maybe, foreigners can just get good instead of hoping that no one else does so?

Well, it's pretty hard to get your name out there, and even harder to get picked up by a team that can send you places. You can't compete vs. a player that was on a Korean team playing in GSL/GSTL with just online tourneys or ladder.


100x easier for a foreigner then a Korean these days to get your name out.

Koreans have the same exact access to the online tournaments as foreigners do. The playhem dailies, IPL qualifiers, NASL qualifiers, etc. The only problem is that many tournaments are invite only (which deserves it's own thread imo) and will not favor no name players at all, Korean or foreigner.


Yea it's totally the same thing playing professional tournaments that start at 6pm and 5am right? Also cross server latency, etc.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 19:24:25
March 12 2012 19:23 GMT
#309
On March 13 2012 04:18 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 04:14 Lumi wrote:
On March 13 2012 04:11 IMoperator wrote:
On March 13 2012 04:03 Diamond wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:57 IMoperator wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:55 Lumi wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:53 IMoperator wrote:
I'm growing tired of seeing Koreans leave their teams to try to get more money :/


Yeah they should totally go nowhere in life while playing video games for us

Well, I just mean that it's less chances for a foreign player to get on a good team. Why would a big name team want to take a risk on an up and coming foreigner when they can just get a Korean that left his team?


Maybe, just maybe, foreigners can just get good instead of hoping that no one else does so?

Well, it's pretty hard to get your name out there, and even harder to get picked up by a team that can send you places. You can't compete vs. a player that was on a Korean team playing in GSL/GSTL with just online tourneys or ladder.


It's actually even harder for Koreans. They work harder, play better, struggle for limited tournaments with the highest standards for qualifying, and are still far less popular than our full stock of well-known but completely mediocre foreigner fan favorites.

I'd disagree with that. If you're GM/High masters on KR you're much more likely to be picked up by a foreign team than if you were the same level on NA or EU. You probably won't get to the best of the best foreign teams, but some of the smaller teams like It's Gosu (hwangsin) iS (crazymoving), eSahara, x6 etc. would probably choose the korean in that case.


Most of the community dont even know alot of the players in the GSL. Do you think a player who is up and coming and havent had any time in GSL/GSTL have a chance of getting known outside korea?
Bajsgrodan
Profile Joined November 2010
Afghanistan408 Posts
March 12 2012 19:26 GMT
#310
Im guessing...Empire, or Millennium.
My name sucks!
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 19:40:03
March 12 2012 19:38 GMT
#311
On March 13 2012 04:17 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 04:11 IMoperator wrote:
On March 13 2012 04:03 Diamond wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:57 IMoperator wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:55 Lumi wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:53 IMoperator wrote:
I'm growing tired of seeing Koreans leave their teams to try to get more money :/


Yeah they should totally go nowhere in life while playing video games for us

Well, I just mean that it's less chances for a foreign player to get on a good team. Why would a big name team want to take a risk on an up and coming foreigner when they can just get a Korean that left his team?


Maybe, just maybe, foreigners can just get good instead of hoping that no one else does so?

Well, it's pretty hard to get your name out there, and even harder to get picked up by a team that can send you places. You can't compete vs. a player that was on a Korean team playing in GSL/GSTL with just online tourneys or ladder.


100x easier for a foreigner then a Korean these days to get your name out.


Stream learn english and interact with fans, it's not rocket science frankly

Admittedly the move from unknown to featured on TL or whatever might be the hardest part but still.

If given the choice between a mediocre foreigner who speaks english or a skilled korean who makes an effort to learn english and interact with fans I know which one a lot would pick. Just look at why Polt gets a shitton of viewers, it's not because he's simply winning Asus. It's because when I've watched him he's talking to viewers showing replays they want and learning English
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
purecarnagge
Profile Joined August 2010
719 Posts
March 12 2012 19:43 GMT
#312
On March 12 2012 22:32 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
hope this doesn't incur another Jessica shitstorm =/


Maybe its why he decided to leave....
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
March 12 2012 19:50 GMT
#313
On March 13 2012 04:17 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 04:11 IMoperator wrote:
On March 13 2012 04:03 Diamond wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:57 IMoperator wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:55 Lumi wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:53 IMoperator wrote:
I'm growing tired of seeing Koreans leave their teams to try to get more money :/


Yeah they should totally go nowhere in life while playing video games for us

Well, I just mean that it's less chances for a foreign player to get on a good team. Why would a big name team want to take a risk on an up and coming foreigner when they can just get a Korean that left his team?


Maybe, just maybe, foreigners can just get good instead of hoping that no one else does so?

Well, it's pretty hard to get your name out there, and even harder to get picked up by a team that can send you places. You can't compete vs. a player that was on a Korean team playing in GSL/GSTL with just online tourneys or ladder.


100x easier for a foreigner then a Korean these days to get your name out.

Certainly. Now if you tell me a player like Carmel deserves to be more known than say BabyKnight then you are just being biased. The Koreans who deserve to be known are known. The rest, well they use EWM or ESV Weekly for that.
Phobbers
Profile Joined May 2011
773 Posts
March 12 2012 19:51 GMT
#314
Hmmm, Taeja pretty decent Terran. Maybe EG since the EG-Slayers training partnership. Also that would even out the EG roster with 3 Terrans 3 Zerg and 3 Protoss :D but who knows who he has been talking to!
EG/C9/ALL/TSM
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
March 12 2012 19:52 GMT
#315
i guess he'll go to eg
eg can fire machine and lz now unless they are not getting paid
IM & EG supporter
viOLetFanClub
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Korea (South)390 Posts
March 12 2012 19:53 GMT
#316
>has personal FB added
>gets inside information
>decides to post it on TL instead of keeping it to himself
>causes potential shitstorm with Taeja and SlayerS members

Sigh.
CitrusFo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada116 Posts
March 12 2012 19:55 GMT
#317
hmm. mTw or SK
Sup Dawgs. Im Simon
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 12 2012 19:58 GMT
#318
On March 13 2012 04:50 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 04:17 Diamond wrote:
On March 13 2012 04:11 IMoperator wrote:
On March 13 2012 04:03 Diamond wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:57 IMoperator wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:55 Lumi wrote:
On March 13 2012 03:53 IMoperator wrote:
I'm growing tired of seeing Koreans leave their teams to try to get more money :/


Yeah they should totally go nowhere in life while playing video games for us

Well, I just mean that it's less chances for a foreign player to get on a good team. Why would a big name team want to take a risk on an up and coming foreigner when they can just get a Korean that left his team?


Maybe, just maybe, foreigners can just get good instead of hoping that no one else does so?

Well, it's pretty hard to get your name out there, and even harder to get picked up by a team that can send you places. You can't compete vs. a player that was on a Korean team playing in GSL/GSTL with just online tourneys or ladder.


100x easier for a foreigner then a Korean these days to get your name out.

Certainly. Now if you tell me a player like Carmel deserves to be more known than say BabyKnight then you are just being biased. The Koreans who deserve to be known are known. The rest, well they use EWM or ESV Weekly for that.


What? There's countless Koreans who are really good and would do extremely well in the foreign scene who are nobodies where as any foreigners who show even a hint of something decent are known.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
March 12 2012 20:01 GMT
#319
Koreans are learning more money, more fame, can be achieved outside of KR. Ya, top GSL players are famous, and make money... but to get all the way through it, and that's the ONLY tournament. You can't blame good players for going abroad to make their name known, and get some damn money.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
March 12 2012 20:07 GMT
#320
On March 13 2012 04:53 k1mjee wrote:
>has personal FB added
>gets inside information
>decides to post it on TL instead of keeping it to himself
>causes potential shitstorm with Taeja and SlayerS members

Sigh.


Shouldn't be one. Can't imagine why there would be.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
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