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On March 16 2012 13:08 justsayinbro wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 12:44 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 16 2012 11:36 justsayinbro wrote:On March 16 2012 10:32 TanTzoR wrote:On March 16 2012 06:54 Perseverance wrote:On March 16 2012 05:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 16 2012 05:30 starcraft911 wrote:On March 16 2012 05:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 16 2012 05:00 hnQ wrote:
oh oh hey guise stephano is a chicken because he upped it and now is backing down lolol, IM SURE HE WASNT JOKING ABOUT IT, SO SURE GUYS Did you read how excessively Stephano had been calling out Naniwa, and how eager he was to make some money on the deal? Obviously he's allowed to change his mind or troll a little, but Stephano was pretty over the top with what he wrote. Did you even bother to read the conversation in the OP? By the way, fantastic grammar. Yes, you are absolutely correct. Stephano is entitled to renege on his aforementioned challenge, however, as a fan I take actions like this into account and while he might not care about the sincerity of his words, I believe many of his fans and sponsors do. Maybe I'm crazy, but as I see e-sports developing into something tangible, I can't help but notice how important public image is becoming. Stephano is just one man though. If he were something more a $5k investment to save face and most likely win many new fans (win or lose) is a no brainer. For example... I don't really care much for Stephano. He's put up some good games, but I'm not awestruck by him, however, after reading his challenge I began to care more about learning more about him. After some of the past controversial things he's done already (signing double contracts, entering multiple tournaments that play at the same time- which causes tournament problems, etc.), this pretty much reinforces a slightly sour mindset I have of him. I'm hoping the showmatch gets played, although I was really looking forward to Stephano walking the walk of his bet, and not just talking the talk. I see this as another slightly unsettling thing he's done in his career (which has been extremely accomplished as far as wins and prize money go, don't get me wrong). I feel the same way about Stephano. These are all the supporting reasons for why I am not a fan even though I am a zerg player. I hope naniwa crushes him. You act like he said solemnly: "I swear on my life and honor to put 5k on the table in a showmatch against Naniwa." It's ridiculous, it was just some chat with Naniwa, I don't care about the prize. Only the showmatch is important, and if he doesn't it then yes I will be disappointed. It is called class and it should be no surprised to anyone that you are expected to hold up to your words. also this match became more competitive and serious when they decided to wager their personal funds thereby making this match more than a showmatch to the audience imo. what stephano did was bitching out from a bet. no other ways to put that than what it really is. Sometimes I really hate this community. Alot of people more interested in creating drama then actually care for the sport. What are you problem sir?. We get our showmatch that was the hole point of the twitter convosation. Who really cares if stephano gonna put 5k on his own money on it. I dont I just wanna see the showmatch. And I must give credit to Stephano he got his wish and got the showmatch now so the trash talking on twitter apperently helped. I do suggest since you seem like the kind of guy who loves the drama to goto redit and make a post who knows maybe the dramaqueen community can get him fired. no you are missing the point. there was no drama created by the twitter message after everything is considered. what revealed from the the shit talk was stephano's character of being a lil bitch. He is not sure $5k worth that he can beat Naniwa. Show nested quote +MillStephano MillStephano @MillStephano @QuanticNaNi PussPuss Pussycat, 500 only ? Let's go up to 5 grant your poor swedish so your balls shrunk overnight bro?
You are the perfect stereotype of a keyboard warrior. Thx for the laugh buddy
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I have no idea why some fanboys are raging over this. Calm down. According to Stephano, the showmatch will come, soon or later. People need to chill.
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On March 16 2012 13:14 Benjamin80 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 13:08 justsayinbro wrote:On March 16 2012 12:44 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 16 2012 11:36 justsayinbro wrote:On March 16 2012 10:32 TanTzoR wrote:On March 16 2012 06:54 Perseverance wrote:On March 16 2012 05:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 16 2012 05:30 starcraft911 wrote:On March 16 2012 05:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 16 2012 05:00 hnQ wrote:
oh oh hey guise stephano is a chicken because he upped it and now is backing down lolol, IM SURE HE WASNT JOKING ABOUT IT, SO SURE GUYS Did you read how excessively Stephano had been calling out Naniwa, and how eager he was to make some money on the deal? Obviously he's allowed to change his mind or troll a little, but Stephano was pretty over the top with what he wrote. Did you even bother to read the conversation in the OP? By the way, fantastic grammar. Yes, you are absolutely correct. Stephano is entitled to renege on his aforementioned challenge, however, as a fan I take actions like this into account and while he might not care about the sincerity of his words, I believe many of his fans and sponsors do. Maybe I'm crazy, but as I see e-sports developing into something tangible, I can't help but notice how important public image is becoming. Stephano is just one man though. If he were something more a $5k investment to save face and most likely win many new fans (win or lose) is a no brainer. For example... I don't really care much for Stephano. He's put up some good games, but I'm not awestruck by him, however, after reading his challenge I began to care more about learning more about him. After some of the past controversial things he's done already (signing double contracts, entering multiple tournaments that play at the same time- which causes tournament problems, etc.), this pretty much reinforces a slightly sour mindset I have of him. I'm hoping the showmatch gets played, although I was really looking forward to Stephano walking the walk of his bet, and not just talking the talk. I see this as another slightly unsettling thing he's done in his career (which has been extremely accomplished as far as wins and prize money go, don't get me wrong). I feel the same way about Stephano. These are all the supporting reasons for why I am not a fan even though I am a zerg player. I hope naniwa crushes him. You act like he said solemnly: "I swear on my life and honor to put 5k on the table in a showmatch against Naniwa." It's ridiculous, it was just some chat with Naniwa, I don't care about the prize. Only the showmatch is important, and if he doesn't it then yes I will be disappointed. It is called class and it should be no surprised to anyone that you are expected to hold up to your words. also this match became more competitive and serious when they decided to wager their personal funds thereby making this match more than a showmatch to the audience imo. what stephano did was bitching out from a bet. no other ways to put that than what it really is. Sometimes I really hate this community. Alot of people more interested in creating drama then actually care for the sport. What are you problem sir?. We get our showmatch that was the hole point of the twitter convosation. Who really cares if stephano gonna put 5k on his own money on it. I dont I just wanna see the showmatch. And I must give credit to Stephano he got his wish and got the showmatch now so the trash talking on twitter apperently helped. I do suggest since you seem like the kind of guy who loves the drama to goto redit and make a post who knows maybe the dramaqueen community can get him fired. no you are missing the point. there was no drama created by the twitter message after everything is considered. what revealed from the the shit talk was stephano's character of being a lil bitch. He is not sure $5k worth that he can beat Naniwa. MillStephano MillStephano @MillStephano @QuanticNaNi PussPuss Pussycat, 500 only ? Let's go up to 5 grant your poor swedish so your balls shrunk overnight bro? You are the perfect stereotype of a keyboard warrior. Thx for the laugh buddy
haha apparently so is stephano.
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On March 16 2012 13:14 Benjamin80 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 13:08 justsayinbro wrote:On March 16 2012 12:44 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 16 2012 11:36 justsayinbro wrote:On March 16 2012 10:32 TanTzoR wrote:On March 16 2012 06:54 Perseverance wrote:On March 16 2012 05:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 16 2012 05:30 starcraft911 wrote:On March 16 2012 05:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 16 2012 05:00 hnQ wrote:
oh oh hey guise stephano is a chicken because he upped it and now is backing down lolol, IM SURE HE WASNT JOKING ABOUT IT, SO SURE GUYS Did you read how excessively Stephano had been calling out Naniwa, and how eager he was to make some money on the deal? Obviously he's allowed to change his mind or troll a little, but Stephano was pretty over the top with what he wrote. Did you even bother to read the conversation in the OP? By the way, fantastic grammar. Yes, you are absolutely correct. Stephano is entitled to renege on his aforementioned challenge, however, as a fan I take actions like this into account and while he might not care about the sincerity of his words, I believe many of his fans and sponsors do. Maybe I'm crazy, but as I see e-sports developing into something tangible, I can't help but notice how important public image is becoming. Stephano is just one man though. If he were something more a $5k investment to save face and most likely win many new fans (win or lose) is a no brainer. For example... I don't really care much for Stephano. He's put up some good games, but I'm not awestruck by him, however, after reading his challenge I began to care more about learning more about him. After some of the past controversial things he's done already (signing double contracts, entering multiple tournaments that play at the same time- which causes tournament problems, etc.), this pretty much reinforces a slightly sour mindset I have of him. I'm hoping the showmatch gets played, although I was really looking forward to Stephano walking the walk of his bet, and not just talking the talk. I see this as another slightly unsettling thing he's done in his career (which has been extremely accomplished as far as wins and prize money go, don't get me wrong). I feel the same way about Stephano. These are all the supporting reasons for why I am not a fan even though I am a zerg player. I hope naniwa crushes him. You act like he said solemnly: "I swear on my life and honor to put 5k on the table in a showmatch against Naniwa." It's ridiculous, it was just some chat with Naniwa, I don't care about the prize. Only the showmatch is important, and if he doesn't it then yes I will be disappointed. It is called class and it should be no surprised to anyone that you are expected to hold up to your words. also this match became more competitive and serious when they decided to wager their personal funds thereby making this match more than a showmatch to the audience imo. what stephano did was bitching out from a bet. no other ways to put that than what it really is. Sometimes I really hate this community. Alot of people more interested in creating drama then actually care for the sport. What are you problem sir?. We get our showmatch that was the hole point of the twitter convosation. Who really cares if stephano gonna put 5k on his own money on it. I dont I just wanna see the showmatch. And I must give credit to Stephano he got his wish and got the showmatch now so the trash talking on twitter apperently helped. I do suggest since you seem like the kind of guy who loves the drama to goto redit and make a post who knows maybe the dramaqueen community can get him fired. no you are missing the point. there was no drama created by the twitter message after everything is considered. what revealed from the the shit talk was stephano's character of being a lil bitch. He is not sure $5k worth that he can beat Naniwa. MillStephano MillStephano @MillStephano @QuanticNaNi PussPuss Pussycat, 500 only ? Let's go up to 5 grant your poor swedish so your balls shrunk overnight bro? You are the perfect stereotype of a keyboard warrior. Thx for the laugh buddy
when did walking the talk become a keyboard warrior thing? you missed the point yet again.
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I'm actually having some trouble deciding whether to pick Stephano or Protoss....
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People need to stop treating tweets like they're some kind of holy message from a divine being that could never, ever tell an untruth or express itself incorrectly.
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On March 16 2012 13:30 DeadPixels wrote:
People need to stop treating tweets like they're some kind of holy message from a divine being that could never, ever tell an untruth or express itself incorrectly.
What? Saying something via twitter makes it worse. It was not like Stephano and Naniwa were in a room together and Stephano asked for a showmatch and no one knew about it. Stephano called Naniwa out via a public forum. Said he was a pussy for dodging him and then said he was a poor for not putting up more money. Then Stephano backed out on the amount of money he wanted to put out for the showmatch. All this makes Stephano look like a coward. If you can't walk the walk don't put shit on twitter for everyone to see.
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On March 16 2012 13:47 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 13:30 DeadPixels wrote:
People need to stop treating tweets like they're some kind of holy message from a divine being that could never, ever tell an untruth or express itself incorrectly. What? Saying something via twitter makes it worse. It was not like Stephano and Naniwa were in a room together and Stephano asked for a showmatch and no one knew about it. Stephano called Naniwa out via a public forum. Said he was a pussy for dodging him and then said he was a poor for not putting up more money. Then Stephano backed out on the amount of money he wanted to put out for the showmatch. All this makes Stephano look like a coward. If you can't walk the walk don't put shit on twitter for everyone to see.
I hate to say that but you and a lot of people on TL take things too seriously. If Stephano had said during an interview, or if he had announced to his fan that he will face Naniwa for 5k, it would be a bit lame to change his mind. But this was a chat between two people on twitter, not to the community... You can debate that the fact twitter shows your "private" conversation is a good thing or not but don't act as if Stephano had said to the community that he will do a showmatch for 5k... It's not because you have access to a conversation between two people that this talk is directed to you.
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On March 16 2012 12:48 zEnVy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 12:44 Benjamin80 wrote:On March 16 2012 11:36 justsayinbro wrote:On March 16 2012 10:32 TanTzoR wrote:On March 16 2012 06:54 Perseverance wrote:On March 16 2012 05:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 16 2012 05:30 starcraft911 wrote:On March 16 2012 05:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 16 2012 05:00 hnQ wrote:
oh oh hey guise stephano is a chicken because he upped it and now is backing down lolol, IM SURE HE WASNT JOKING ABOUT IT, SO SURE GUYS Did you read how excessively Stephano had been calling out Naniwa, and how eager he was to make some money on the deal? Obviously he's allowed to change his mind or troll a little, but Stephano was pretty over the top with what he wrote. Did you even bother to read the conversation in the OP? By the way, fantastic grammar. Yes, you are absolutely correct. Stephano is entitled to renege on his aforementioned challenge, however, as a fan I take actions like this into account and while he might not care about the sincerity of his words, I believe many of his fans and sponsors do. Maybe I'm crazy, but as I see e-sports developing into something tangible, I can't help but notice how important public image is becoming. Stephano is just one man though. If he were something more a $5k investment to save face and most likely win many new fans (win or lose) is a no brainer. For example... I don't really care much for Stephano. He's put up some good games, but I'm not awestruck by him, however, after reading his challenge I began to care more about learning more about him. After some of the past controversial things he's done already (signing double contracts, entering multiple tournaments that play at the same time- which causes tournament problems, etc.), this pretty much reinforces a slightly sour mindset I have of him. I'm hoping the showmatch gets played, although I was really looking forward to Stephano walking the walk of his bet, and not just talking the talk. I see this as another slightly unsettling thing he's done in his career (which has been extremely accomplished as far as wins and prize money go, don't get me wrong). I feel the same way about Stephano. These are all the supporting reasons for why I am not a fan even though I am a zerg player. I hope naniwa crushes him. You act like he said solemnly: "I swear on my life and honor to put 5k on the table in a showmatch against Naniwa." It's ridiculous, it was just some chat with Naniwa, I don't care about the prize. Only the showmatch is important, and if he doesn't it then yes I will be disappointed. It is called class and it should be no surprised to anyone that you are expected to hold up to your words. also this match became more competitive and serious when they decided to wager their personal funds thereby making this match more than a showmatch to the audience imo. what stephano did was bitching out from a bet. no other ways to put that than what it really is. Sometimes I really hate this community. Alot of people more interested in creating drama then actually care for the sport. What are you problem sir?. We get our showmatch that was the hole point of the twitter convosation. Who really cares if stephano gonna put 5k on his own money on it. I dont I just wanna see the showmatch. And I must give credit to Stephano he got his wish and got the showmatch now so the trash talking on twitter apperently helped. I do suggest since you seem like the kind of guy who loves the drama to goto redit and make a post who knows maybe the dramaqueen community can get him fired. Tons of people do. Regular showmatch? Yawn. These happen all the time, and are meaningless because there's nothing on the line. Showmatch with 5k on the line? That's dramatic, that has serious consequences. What's wrong with drama? Drama is entertaining, moving, and makes people actually care about what is happening. Pretty funny that Stephano wussed out. He was the one who pushed the 5k, and for him back off after Naniwa called his bluffed makes him look like a punk. It was actually pretty rude...because if Naniwa backs down he looks like a coward, but he accepts and gets nothing. He basically put Naniwa in a lose/lose scenario and has shown he will run his mouth and then not back it up. Add in the fact that he dodges the GSL and it's pretty disappointing. He could be the greatest foreign player ever to play Starcraft but it's obvious he's just trying to accumulate as much money as possible from the scene before walking away. Talk about a parasite.
god forbid pro starcraft players try to make money!
and god forbid that players have more long term goals than sc2... stephano is going to med school.
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On March 17 2012 00:22 Thurken wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 13:47 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On March 16 2012 13:30 DeadPixels wrote:
People need to stop treating tweets like they're some kind of holy message from a divine being that could never, ever tell an untruth or express itself incorrectly. What? Saying something via twitter makes it worse. It was not like Stephano and Naniwa were in a room together and Stephano asked for a showmatch and no one knew about it. Stephano called Naniwa out via a public forum. Said he was a pussy for dodging him and then said he was a poor for not putting up more money. Then Stephano backed out on the amount of money he wanted to put out for the showmatch. All this makes Stephano look like a coward. If you can't walk the walk don't put shit on twitter for everyone to see. I hate to say that but you and a lot of people on TL take things too seriously. If Stephano had said during an interview, or if he had announced to his fan that he will face Naniwa for 5k, it would be a bit lame to change his mind. But this was a chat between two people on twitter, not to the community... You can debate that the fact twitter shows your "private" conversation is a good thing or not but don't act as if Stephano had said to the community that he will do a showmatch for 5k... It's not because you have access to a conversation between two people that this talk is directed to you.
In my opinion, it also doesn't even matter whether or not this was a private or public talk because their tone is clearly teasing and facetious - sure, they're challenging each other, but they're not really trying to insult each other as "pussies."
*Sigh*, so many people taking things way too seriously (not directed at the person I'm quoting but people in general frothing with drama over this thread).
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59 pages eh
last page is calling stephano a coward eh
okay welp, c ya
ps. stephano is only in sc2 for money, why would he put his own on the line
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itt: More of sc2 community taking every bid of trash talk super seriously.
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People need to shut the fuck up about wussing out on $5k, that's a ton of money and I think few pros are willing to drop that much. Try earning that much as an SC2 player and tell me if it doesn't make you nervous.
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On March 17 2012 01:07 ShamTao wrote:
People need to shut the fuck up about wussing out on $5k, that's a ton of money and I think few pros are willing to drop that much. Try earning that much as an SC2 player and tell me if it doesn't make you nervous.
Being a person, I qualify for the group referred to as "people". Hence, I'd like to return your kindness: you need to shut the fuck up yourself.
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On March 17 2012 01:01 Lorch wrote:
itt: More of sc2 community taking every bid of trash talk super seriously.
Just some butthurt dramaqueens dont worry in a couple of days they will find a new drama to bitch about.
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lol how long more before this will start! i like to see stephano play hehe
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On March 17 2012 00:58 Let it Raine wrote:
ps. stephano is only in sc2 for money, why would he put his own on the line
cuz he said so?
i think it would be great pr, leading to an easier time getting sponsors too
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I have the feeling that the 10k bet excits people more than the showmatch itself. It's sad.
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On March 17 2012 04:46 Faust852 wrote:
I have the feeling that the 10k bet excits people more than the showmatch itself. It's sad.
Why is that sad? Haven't they played each other before? Haven't better players played each other before?
The fact that two players would risk their own money- and that much money- on a showmatch makes it far more exciting. That's something that's far less common. In fact, wouldn't it be the absolute biggest pot of cash between two players that came from their own pockets? By far?
Don't get me wrong, Stephano and Naniwa are both incredible players, and seeing them play a BoX is pretty cool in general. But now that they actually have something legitimate and tangible on the line, as opposed to just bragging rights (which practically change every tournament anyway), it makes the idea so much more appealing to the audience.
It's perfectly justifiable to feel let down if the bet is off (or severely lowered), and Stephano would be the cause of that.
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