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Shadyf0o
Profile Joined June 2010
63 Posts
March 22 2012 21:21 GMT
#81
On March 20 2012 09:59 UnicornJedi wrote:
I would like your opinions. Is a 52% win rate by cheesing in high master league skill or lame?


If you can only win by rushing it is noob. In ladder you depend on the fact that your opponent has no idea what your style is. If your opponent has any idea what u are doing you lose. Its like stopping the game before it gets starts because you aren't confident in your ability to compete in the late game, whch is harder than early game. Sure you win the game by rushing, but if you play the same player again the same cheap tricks don't work, so you would never win at a tournament because everyone would know all you do is rush. If a GM rusher entered a tournament he would be laughed at.

GM league rushing is nothing to be proud of. Its an exploitation of the matchmaking system. Instead of having a lot of good strategies to bring to the table, you have one perfected one, and you rarely encounter the same players so you never need to change it up, therefore you never improve.
QueenOfBlades
Profile Joined March 2012
United States3 Posts
March 22 2012 22:52 GMT
#82
Ah, thank you. I'm excited to be here!

On March 20 2012 11:42 PopcornColonel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 10:59 QueenOfBlades wrote:
How do you reply to someone's question on a thread? Forgive my ignorance.

Press the "Quote" link at the top right corner of their post And welcome to Teamliquid!

Should you become a nuisance...
Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 23:00:17
March 22 2012 22:59 GMT
#83
On March 23 2012 04:58 Ajaco92 wrote:
Look at what arrived in the mail today :D
[image loading]


The pink pen or the student card?
http://www.twitch.tv/becosmos
Arterial
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1039 Posts
March 22 2012 23:44 GMT
#84
Quick question. As of right now, what qualifies as High Masters? As opposed to Mid-Masters?
savior & jaedong
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
March 23 2012 00:01 GMT
#85
On March 23 2012 08:44 Arterial wrote:
Quick question. As of right now, what qualifies as High Masters? As opposed to Mid-Masters?


In my personal opinion I would say high master in terms of ranks as 1-10, and 10-50 as mid master etc. But it's so hard to say, if you judge by points at the moment I have not a idea, maybe 900 and up for high master in terms of points right now? At least on EU.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
melonabusar2
Profile Joined June 2011
United States6 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 02:30:13
March 23 2012 02:28 GMT
#86
On March 23 2012 09:01 eYeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 08:44 Arterial wrote:
Quick question. As of right now, what qualifies as High Masters? As opposed to Mid-Masters?


In my personal opinion I would say high master in terms of ranks as 1-10, and 10-50 as mid master etc. But it's so hard to say, if you judge by points at the moment I have not a idea, maybe 900 and up for high master in terms of points right now? At least on EU.


I'm not sure about this. I think it can't be scaled by rank at all since some divisions are newer than others and the newer divisions are full of diamonds that have just been promoted, and will more than likely have less points than other divisions. Since rank is determined by points, it makes more sense to just go to the 'root' and scale it by points.

I believe that as of right now 1000+ points is high masters, as you'll see them occasionally play grandmasters. Anyone who plays grandmasters regularly is a high master.

A midmaster is around 700-1000 points. These players will never play grandmasters, and if they do it's once in a blue moon and against a player who won't be grandmaster next season (this doesn't happen often since GM is fixed this season).

Players who are generally ranked 25-100 are low masters, as in they play diamonds still quite often. Probably any player that is under 700 points is a low master.

Granted these point values will become useless in a few weeks as the bonus pool accumulates.

edit: For reference, I am a midmaster who recently climbed from low masters and is fighting for a top 8 spot in my respective division. What's stated above is just simply my opinion on the matter.
Veriol
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic502 Posts
March 23 2012 09:10 GMT
#87
How is actually working out eSahara-oGs-TL partnership? As from what i've read oGs players are representing eSahara outside korea? So whats actually the deal between oGs and TL
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape." -iloveoov
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
March 24 2012 11:20 GMT
#88
who the hell is fraer and how is he #2 on foreign tlpd elo
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Ktk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)753 Posts
March 24 2012 11:30 GMT
#89
On March 24 2012 20:20 sixfour wrote:
who the hell is fraer and how is he #2 on foreign tlpd elo


I know right? hahaha, nothing against the guy, i don't even know him, but it makes me think the zotac cups are a bit heavily weighted in ELO calculations ._.
oshiki
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia45 Posts
March 24 2012 12:49 GMT
#90
Hi, question: Is MLG columbus free to watch live? link? thanks
Ajaco92
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Norway152 Posts
March 24 2012 12:51 GMT
#91
On March 24 2012 21:49 oshiki wrote:
Hi, question: Is MLG columbus free to watch live? link? thanks

The main stage is free to watch. They have 4 SC2 streams, where you can watch one of them for free. Quality is pretty decent 480p, where as if you pay you'll get 1080p on all four streams.

www.majorleaguegaming.com/live

Day 2 starts in 2h 10m
What doesnt kill you make your race OP.
oshiki
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia45 Posts
March 24 2012 12:56 GMT
#92
On March 24 2012 21:51 Ajaco92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 21:49 oshiki wrote:
Hi, question: Is MLG columbus free to watch live? link? thanks

The main stage is free to watch. They have 4 SC2 streams, where you can watch one of them for free. Quality is pretty decent 480p, where as if you pay you'll get 1080p on all four streams.

www.majorleaguegaming.com/live

Day 2 starts in 2h 10m


Thanks Ajaco92!
-Debaser-
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States329 Posts
March 24 2012 16:36 GMT
#93
On March 24 2012 20:20 sixfour wrote:
who the hell is fraer and how is he #2 on foreign tlpd elo

look at his match history though hes on fire owning top eus and some koreans 3-0 2-0
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KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
March 24 2012 19:09 GMT
#94
This delay between games in MLG is crazy. They should do it like fighting game tournaments where the players playing next are already setting up their game as they wait. Fighting game tournaments have implemented this even though players' set up time is far less than SC2 players.
TheRealViceroy
Profile Joined August 2010
United States16 Posts
March 25 2012 00:51 GMT
#95
On March 09 2012 18:48 Mr.X546 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 18:35 Bumblebee wrote:
Question of the month: Why is Jinro so gosu? Explain please.



I mean, where else in the world do you most likely have to fight off a polar bear to get to school?



<3

Alaska.
Artosis Pylon, if its good enough for a pro its good enough for me!
joeschmo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States167 Posts
March 25 2012 14:05 GMT
#96
Is DeMusliM actually a Muslim?

FalleN!
Profile Joined March 2012
8 Posts
March 25 2012 14:29 GMT
#97
On March 25 2012 23:05 joeschmo wrote:
Is DeMusliM actually a Muslim?


No.
Ajaco92
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Norway152 Posts
March 25 2012 16:12 GMT
#98
On March 25 2012 23:05 joeschmo wrote:
Is DeMusliM actually a Muslim?


I think he have said that he chose the name 'DeMusliM' because he's a fan of Muhammad Ali. I don't know if Muhammad Ali had the nickname 'Demuslim', or if he chose his nickname purely based on the fact that Muhammad Ali is a muslim (i would guess?).

All i know is that his nick is chosen because he's a fan of Muhammad Ali. How 'Demuslim' and Muhammad Ali are connected, i dont know.
What doesnt kill you make your race OP.
Di3s3l
Profile Joined September 2010
97 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 17:37:56
March 25 2012 17:37 GMT
#99
I was curious what the general public thinks about this. I'm not going to state my opinion because I would like to see the opinions of others first. At these big tournaments we see Tasteless, Artosis, Day9, Dj Wheat, JP, etc. I'm wondering if anyone else thinks there is any inner-competition between the casters or if they actually really enjoy each other as much as they seem they do live. Question to the community is, who do you think is the best solo caster, and the best duo of casters.

EX: Solo - Orb
Dual - PainUser/CatzPajamas

(funny example eh!?)
Z>P>T
CluEleSs_UK
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom583 Posts
March 25 2012 18:41 GMT
#100
Do Koreans play on english language or korean language clients at foreign tournaments? I saw mkp research medivac energy when getting ravens, and I wondered if maybe he got the 2 upgrades mixed up because he couldn't read it.
"If it turns out he is leaving the ESL to focus on cooking crystal meth I'll agree that it is somewhat disgraceful, but I'll hold off judgement until then."
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