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RastaMonsta
304 Posts
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Bippzy
United States1466 Posts
On March 11 2012 01:05 RastaMonsta wrote: asshole got what he deserved Not really, persay. It's like he made a dead baby joke a year ago, and then was hired to be a daycare caretaker. The owner of the daycare center finds out he made a dead baby joke and turns out, she had a miscarriage when she was younger. She fires him on principle. Orb, GL, I never watched anything you casted but you obviously enjoyed casting and I would be much more bitter than you sound to be to the community. | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
On March 11 2012 01:05 RastaMonsta wrote: asshole got what he deserved Thanks for sharing. Since you've made us curious now, please enlighten us, what did your asshole get? | ||
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Disposition1989
Canada270 Posts
On March 11 2012 01:05 RastaMonsta wrote: asshole got what he deserved i think we can agree on one thing: the internet makes kittens believe they can be lions. and to whoever posted the morgan freeman clip, you win the thread | ||
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Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
On March 10 2012 03:17 Stropheum wrote: Are they aware that incontrol said the word "nigger" on stream before while representing EG? He was referring to it as the word and not calling someone that specific word, but he literally said "the word 'nigger'" and nobody seemed to care. Is this a double standard, or does the context of the word ACTUALLY have an impact on the offensiveness? I believe it was even on state of the game with destiny, day9, jp, and nony if anyone wants to dig that up in the vods Context absolutely makes a difference. I find the word quite offensive, but I've definitely said it a handful of times. Each one of those times was in direct reference to the word itself or the quote of a song lyric (of course then there's the "nigger" vs. "nigga" argument, but no need to get into that). That's very different from using the word in a derogatory manner toward another person. | ||
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UrielSC
Canada143 Posts
On March 11 2012 00:57 Erasme wrote: Starcraft brood war ? I didn't see or hear a bw caster flame or be bad mannered online. And if you're an ass because it's online, then more power to you but I wouldnt like to play with you. Good, because Competition is not for the faint hearted. Instead of hundreds of white kids complaining about a black racial term Maybe we should be focusing on getting Sc2 at least HALF the numbers of LoL and stop looking for reasons to kill the Careers of people trying to help. | ||
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Fusa
Canada148 Posts
On March 11 2012 01:09 Bippzy wrote: Not really, persay. It's like he made a dead baby joke a year ago, and then was hired to be a daycare caretaker. The owner of the daycare center finds out he made a dead baby joke and turns out, she had a miscarriage when she was younger. She fires him on principle. Orb, GL, I never watched anything you casted but you obviously enjoyed casting and I would be much more bitter than you sound to be to the community. This analogy has nothing to do with what has transpired here, (orb) would have been dealing with the public on mass. When you have personally conducted yourself on a public stream ( like a moron and a neanderthal ) these character traits, unstable"ness" and general lack of vocabulary lead to his demise as a public figure in the public. | ||
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TheTurk
United States732 Posts
Not for accusing the community of slander and fabrication. Especially Total Biscuit. | ||
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On March 11 2012 01:45 TheTurk wrote: Especially Total Biscuit. what has TB got to do with this? | ||
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Flyingdutchman
Netherlands858 Posts
Good luck to you | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On March 11 2012 01:09 Bippzy wrote: Not really, persay. It's like he made a dead baby joke a year ago, and then was hired to be a daycare caretaker. The owner of the daycare center finds out he made a dead baby joke and turns out, she had a miscarriage when she was younger. She fires him on principle. Orb, GL, I never watched anything you casted but you obviously enjoyed casting and I would be much more bitter than you sound to be to the community. no it would be like if hes in the grocery store, and the old lady in front of him is taking a really long time and he keeps yelling at her for being so slow, then he gets a job at that same grocery store and the old lady seems him and tells the manager who then fires him | ||
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0c3LoT
Canada162 Posts
However, the fact that you thought the word "nigger" could be used for comedic relief seems very misguided. Though I'm sure plenty of whites were laughing when they called blacks "niggers" during hangings and lynchings. Funny thing is if you had used "nigga" I doubt people would have been as angry. | ||
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halfies
United Kingdom327 Posts
also, abusing TB should surely be a positive. | ||
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0c3LoT
Canada162 Posts
On March 10 2012 22:06 Axe.ZerG wrote: I really hate this whole attitude the starcraft community has... Do you really think filtering out people like orb and censoring everything about them is going to draw in more viewers and make esports bigger? Have you ever considered that maybe not everyone is interested in starcraft and enjoys watching it? Do you enjoy watching LoL? Probably not. If their community censored out bad casters, would that make you want to watch it more? NO. Stop trying to make esports grow by censoring everything and trying to make your community more respected... it isn't going to work. You're just making people angry because you are making everyone feel bad about every little tiny thing that they do on ladder or elsewhere. I bet you are the same people who try to control everybody else in life and have everything your way. The only thing that tells me about you is that you are too dumb to understand why the words are offensive. It's because you keep talking about it. Stop talking about it and it is no longer a problem. Stop talking about it. Just stop. The thing you don't realize is that racism is an institution, not some attribute you can apply to a person, or a set of words. Let me give you an example, if someone calls me a nigger, it does not affect me at all, nor does it mean they are a racist. Now, if I go to a job interview, and someone doesn't hire me just because I'm black, THAT'S RACISM. If I'm not allowed in a certain establishment or neighbourhood because I'm black, THAT'S RACISM. You need to have some type of power in order to be racist, and the majority of people on the internet & in gaming communities using "nigger" really have very little, if any, power. I think what Morgan said actually went way over your head. "I'm going to stop calling you a white man, and you stop calling me a black man" | ||
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Radiated11
United States32 Posts
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CalBoy
Korea (South)4 Posts
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!Shikamaru
Germany21 Posts
first off I've got to say, that I only know you as a caster (expecially for the Korean Weekly). I think most of us agree, that you are not to be seen as a racist. EG though cannot afford to be known for hiring, hiding or tolerating questionable sentiments. They have to get rid of everything, that legitimizes suspicion. I know, that it's probably not going to help you, but you can be seen as something like a precedence. I don't want to talk about the n-word here, because many people already have, but I'd like to write something on a personal note; If there is anything for you to learn from this in my opinion, then it is to see all of this in context. Some poeple here wrote, that you should start to respect others a bit more. I noticed something in your casts. You seem to be what I like to call "overconfident". You judge really harshly on minor mistakes. I see a bit of that "I don't give a shit, whether my words insult another being"-attitude in that, which showcases a sort of arrogance, that implies a certain lack of compassion. You might want to work on that. Note: Im not writing this to insult you. I'm working on it myself. No matter what you do, keep your head up. You are a good caster in terms of gameknowledge and comment"flow" and your apology is really impressive. You neither defended yourself too much, nor did you search for excuses. You even thanked EG for the opportunity. It takes a lot to do that. It's that kind of personality we'd like to see. The one, that can step back, that accepts other peoples wills and feelings, that asks for apology and doesn't add insult per insult to those, who felt offended in the first place. The humble one. You have proven, that you possess it. Expand its influence. For a peaceful sc2 environment. We all seek acceptance. So why be offensive, if we don't mean it and if its easily evitable? This community has had that conversation over and over again, but I'm kind of glad, that EG took that step, although I feel sorry for you Orb, who obviously did not intentionally mean any harm, who unfortunately became a precedence here and who clearly deserves a second chance. Hope to soon hear your voice cast some awesome sc2 again! | ||
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Eiaco
170 Posts
On March 11 2012 01:05 RastaMonsta wrote: asshole got what he deserved So did you by the looks of things. GL Orb, GL EG. | ||
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
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Xenocryst
United States521 Posts
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