EPTI'm not offended, and because you're trying to use your big words and logic to make me think I should be, doesn't mean you will ever change my world. I live in a world where words only hold meaning to me. I was never for a moment in my life someone who looked down on someone due to their race. People call others dumb nigger meaning you've being a severely stupid person. Just like saying someone is a dumb cunt. Apparently cunt is supposed to refer to a vagina aka refer to females. So lets just gauge this in our heads, (you can be honest or tell yourself what you want to hear), if he had said you're a dumb cunt, would be having this conversation. No. Of course not. Because that is loosely less referred to as women and its now meaning is just an interchangeable curse word. My point? WORDS CAN CHANGE MEANING OVER TIME!!!!!! You are inherently promoting racism if you take the word nigger and you think of it to mean black person. People who are ignorant to such hateful ideas are not to be held accountable FOR YOUR FUCKD UP WORLD!!!!!! WE DON'T POPULATE YOUR WORLD, ONLY YOU DO!!!
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Probasaur
United States461 Posts
I'm not offended, and because you're trying to use your big words and logic to make me think I should be, doesn't mean you will ever change my world. I live in a world where words only hold meaning to me. I was never for a moment in my life someone who looked down on someone due to their race. People call others dumb nigger meaning you've being a severely stupid person. Just like saying someone is a dumb cunt. Apparently cunt is supposed to refer to a vagina aka refer to females. So lets just gauge this in our heads, (you can be honest or tell yourself what you want to hear), if he had said you're a dumb cunt, would be having this conversation. No. Of course not. Because that is loosely less referred to as women and its now meaning is just an interchangeable curse word. My point? WORDS CAN CHANGE MEANING OVER TIME!!!!!! You are inherently promoting racism if you take the word nigger and you think of it to mean black person. People who are ignorant to such hateful ideas are not to be held accountable FOR YOUR FUCKD UP WORLD!!!!!! WE DON'T POPULATE YOUR WORLD, ONLY YOU DO!!! | ||
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Sickkiee
Japan607 Posts
On March 10 2012 13:26 Probasaur wrote: I like how people think they can tell me what a word means TO ME. You aren't me. My world and my reality is entirely my own. Just as yours is respectfully your own as well. Something can be offensive to some and not to others. End of story. If you don't think so then you're denying a fact of life. I'm not offended, and because you're trying to use your big words and logic to make me think I should be, doesn't mean you will ever change my world. I live in a world where words only hold meaning to me. I was never for a moment in my life someone who looked down on someone due to their race. People call others dumb nigger meaning you've being a severely stupid person. Just like saying someone is a dumb cunt. Apparently cunt is supposed to refer to a vagina aka refer to females. So lets just gauge this in our heads, (you can be honest or tell yourself what you want to hear), if he had said you're a dumb cunt, would be having this conversation. No. Of course not. Because that is loosely less referred to as women and its now meaning is just an interchangeable curse word. My point? WORDS CAN CHANGE MEANING OVER TIME!!!!!! You are inherently promoting racism if you take the word nigger and you think of it to mean black person. People who are ignorant to such hateful ideas are not to be held accountable FOR YOUR FUCKD UP WORLD!!!!!! WE DON'T POPULATE YOUR WORLD, ONLY YOU DO!!! This is oh so true. | ||
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SumHarvest
United States15 Posts
On March 10 2012 13:26 Probasaur wrote: I like how people think they can tell me what a word means TO ME. You aren't me. My world and my reality is entirely my own. Just as yours is respectfully your own as well. Something can be offensive to some and not to others. End of story. If you don't think so then you're denying a fact of life. I'm not offended, and because you're trying to use your big words and logic to make me think I should be, doesn't mean you will ever change my world. I live in a world where words only hold meaning to me. I was never for a moment in my life someone who looked down on someone due to their race. People call others dumb nigger meaning you've being a severely stupid person. Just like saying someone is a dumb cunt. Apparently cunt is supposed to refer to a vagina aka refer to females. So lets just gauge this in our heads, (you can be honest or tell yourself what you want to hear), if he had said you're a dumb cunt, would be having this conversation. No. Of course not. Because that is loosely less referred to as women and its now meaning is just an interchangeable curse word. My point? WORDS CAN CHANGE MEANING OVER TIME!!!!!! You are inherently promoting racism if you take the word nigger and you think of it to mean black person. People who are ignorant to such hateful ideas are not to be held accountable FOR YOUR FUCKD UP WORLD!!!!!! WE DON'T POPULATE YOUR WORLD, ONLY YOU DO!!! Sounds like you need to ignore what a 13 year old kid living under his grandma's basement is saying. You sound like the guy is actually screwing up your life every time someone call you a "nigger". Oh I'm sorry. Because of that word, I guess you lost your home. How sad. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On March 10 2012 13:26 Probasaur wrote: I like how people think they can tell me what a word means TO ME. You aren't me. My world and my reality is entirely my own. Just as yours is respectfully your own as well. Something can be offensive to some and not to others. End of story. If you don't think so then you're denying a fact of life. I'm not offended, and because you're trying to use your big words and logic to make me think I should be, doesn't mean you will ever change my world. I live in a world where words only hold meaning to me. I was never for a moment in my life someone who looked down on someone due to their race. People call others dumb nigger meaning you've being a severely stupid person. Just like saying someone is a dumb cunt. Apparently cunt is supposed to refer to a vagina aka refer to females. So lets just gauge this in our heads, (you can be honest or tell yourself what you want to hear), if he had said you're a dumb cunt, would be having this conversation. No. Of course not. Because that is loosely less referred to as women and its now meaning is just an interchangeable curse word. My point? WORDS CAN CHANGE MEANING OVER TIME!!!!!! You are inherently promoting racism if you take the word nigger and you think of it to mean black person. People who are ignorant to such hateful ideas are not to be held accountable FOR YOUR FUCKD UP WORLD!!!!!! WE DON'T POPULATE YOUR WORLD, ONLY YOU DO!!! Study some linguistics. You can't just make up meanings for words that you interpret your own way if you want to effectively communicate with others. Words have meanings, they can be colloquial meanings or technical definitions, but they have meanings. When someone says them, the general intention is that the listener (or reader) knows the meaning of the word and can therefore understand the intended message. If you just make up whatever meaning for a word you want, how is anyone supposed to meaningfully communicate with you? I could say one thing and have no idea how you're going to interpret it, so what's the point? I might as well be speaking gibberish. The meanings of words slowly change over time, but you can't just declare "This word means this to me!" as if that justifies using extremely foul language due to some weird explanation for how you (and possibly others) don't think of it as foul or aren't offended. Language doesn't work that way, and there are plenty of people who don't interpret the word the same way you do who might be horrifically offended. There's a reason words have standard definitions, so people can actually use them in a meaningful way. And if you think interpreting a word with its most common meaning is promoting racism, you don't know what racism is, and you don't understand many of the important concepts that describe how racism takes form. | ||
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SumHarvest
United States15 Posts
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Reedjr
United States228 Posts
On March 10 2012 13:26 Probasaur wrote: I like how people think they can tell me what a word means TO ME. You aren't me. My world and my reality is entirely my own. Just as yours is respectfully your own as well. Something can be offensive to some and not to others. End of story. If you don't think so then you're denying a fact of life. My point? WORDS CAN CHANGE MEANING OVER TIME!!!!!! You are inherently promoting racism if you take the word nigger and you think of it to mean black person. People who are ignorant to such hateful ideas are not to be held accountable FOR YOUR FUCKD UP WORLD!!!!!! WE DON'T POPULATE YOUR WORLD, ONLY YOU DO!!! Look up the word in a dictionary. Is the definition "whatever you want it to be?" No? Then shut up. Is the definition a racial slur? Then welcome to the rest of the world. Wait, since words can mean whatever I want them to, then flower gurgle raisin silly butts. In my world, that means stop being an ignorant jackass. Edit: Whitewing makes many of these same points without being the condescending ass that I am. Look a few posts above this if you want a more intellectual approach. | ||
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eXeRicH
Germany89 Posts
Did IdrA apologize for his BM even once? | ||
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SumHarvest
United States15 Posts
If you were to tell this to other black people, they would laugh their ass off. Let's be honest here. 2 or 3 generations of people don't give a fuck. Unless you were with the cub scout club, no one cares. | ||
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Probasaur
United States461 Posts
Keep living according to what people tell you how to live and don't ever even think to judge the world around you subjectively. Keep living in the objective preconceived world that the hate filled people left behind for you. Its called evolution. I've clearly evolved beyond racism and there is only one race, the human race. And I choose to live my life free of hate, I recognize anger as an abstract emotion and if you allow yourself to see it in this way than its nearly impossible to hold a grudge. Therefore ANY "bad word" regardless of what a dictionary or your Daddy tells you it means, cannot hold any significance to me. Just like your belittling of my beliefs holds no significance. I just hope you can take the smallest amount out of what I'm writing to you. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10346 Posts
We're seeing a lot of "official apologies" lately on TL. Seldom is the person in question actually remorseful. Also, while orb may lack maturity from time to time (and empathy, indefinitely), this whole thing has really spun out of control. Prediction: EG bosses remove orbs broadcast ban relatively soon. They're just waiting for things to blow over. | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
On March 10 2012 12:54 Daogin wrote: Who knew sheer words could destroy people. Shakespeare to Nietzche to Mein Kampf. Were you not aware of the power of language? | ||
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SumHarvest
United States15 Posts
On March 10 2012 13:49 Probasaur wrote: See the problem is you live in your world of definitions and preconceived rules and regulations. I live according to my life not according to how anyone lived or acted before me. I don't use that word anymore, actually cant remember the last time I did, but when I used to play Halo I would spout it as much as any random insult. Obviously I can't see if they're black or not, and obviously I was just spouting negativity. You can say he was being a negative person, and putting a bad vibe out there. But you can't say he was being racist. Keep living according to what people tell you how to live. Don't ever judge the world around you subjectively. And keep living in the objective preconceived world that the hate filled people left behind for you. Its called evolution. I've clearly evolved beyond racism and there is only one race, the human race. And I choose to live my life free of hate, I recognize anger as an abstract emotion and if you allow yourself to see it in this way than its nearly impossible to hold a grudge. Therefore ANY "bad word" regardless of what a dictionary or your Daddy tells you it means, cannot hold any significance to me. Just like your belittling of my beliefs holds no significance. I just hope you can take the smallest amount out of what I'm writing to you. If you want to talk about evolution, then grow the fuck up and get out of the past. No one cares about someone else calling someone else a nigger over some AIM conversation. You want to stop it? Good luck at it. | ||
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Probasaur
United States461 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10346 Posts
On March 10 2012 13:49 Probasaur wrote: See the problem is you live in your world of definitions and preconceived rules and regulations. I live according to my life not according to how anyone lived or acted before me.. The sheer rage I feel reading this line... It's incredible! | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On March 10 2012 12:10 Defacer wrote: Sure it is. I'm not even questioning their intelligence. They're just conniving, cowardly bastards. You mean they were born out of wedlock? | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On March 10 2012 13:49 Probasaur wrote: See the problem is you live in your world of definitions and preconceived rules and regulations. I live according to my life not according to how anyone lived or acted before me. I don't use that word anymore, actually cant remember the last time I did, but when I used to play Halo I would spout it as much as any random insult. Obviously I can't see if they're black or not, and obviously I was just spouting negativity. You can say he was being a negative person, and putting a bad vibe out there. But you can't say he was being racist. Keep living according to what people tell you how to live and don't ever even think to judge the world around you subjectively. Keep living in the objective preconceived world that the hate filled people left behind for you. Its called evolution. I've clearly evolved beyond racism and there is only one race, the human race. And I choose to live my life free of hate, I recognize anger as an abstract emotion and if you allow yourself to see it in this way than its nearly impossible to hold a grudge. Therefore ANY "bad word" regardless of what a dictionary or your Daddy tells you it means, cannot hold any significance to me. Just like your belittling of my beliefs holds no significance. I just hope you can take the smallest amount out of what I'm writing to you. Grow up. You don't get to just declare that everyone else is just sheep. You're spouting nonsense, and you have some kind of crazy idea that you're different. I've got news for you, you're not different, you're just to ignorant to understand that. We all live in the same world, with the same laws of reality, you can't just rewrite how language works because you want to. Your ignorance is astounding. "I've evolved beyond racism" is probably the most arrogant comment I've ever heard. You don't 'evolve' out of racism, you learn about it, you educate yourself, and you make a conscious decision to behave in a fashion that involves no discrimination based on race. And no, I can't say he was being racist, but I can say he was either being racist or behaving like a moronic boor, which is the only explanation for someone speaking like that. | ||
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Probasaur
United States461 Posts
Hahhaha wow. Another clear example of hypocrisy. Bastard was once one of the harshest insults you could use on someone. Mothers lied to keep their child from being called a bastard by saying their dad died in a war. So just like my example of cunt, BOOM. Hypocrites run rampant as usual. | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On March 10 2012 14:19 Probasaur wrote: Hahhaha wow. Another clear example of hypocrisy. Bastard was once one of the harshest insults you could use on someone. Mothers lied to keep their child from being called a bastard by saying their dad died in a war. So just like my example of cunt, BOOM. Hypocrites run rampant as usual. .... You have no idea how culture develops at all, yet you just keep talking. Being born out of wedlock is not a cultural problem anymore for the most part, thus it's no longer an insult. It was an insult before because being born to a single mother was a serious problem in culture before. Racism is still a problem in the world. | ||
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immortalitysc2
United States43 Posts
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Probasaur
United States461 Posts
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