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Orb I <3 you.
As a Terran player you are my favorite caster and I never notice any bias (which I Do notice with mr. bitter). So I know that you strive to be professional when it matters. I think we've all gone and said stupid things on ladder that hardly represent our views. So I choose to support you as someone who has done similar things many times.
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You're a great caster, and seem like a cool guy Orb.
I can see the context you were using it in, and I'm pretty sure there was nothing to it and it doesn't hide some big deep dark racist secret.
So - sorry you got wrapped up in all this drama. Keep casting and I'll keep watching without givin it a seconds thought.
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On March 10 2012 08:24 ReignFayth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 08:15 GenesisX wrote:On March 10 2012 07:57 ReignFayth wrote: did some people truly believe he was being racist?
that would be funny, 1st level thinking sooo... insulting everyone who cares about this issue? Doesn't matter if you weren't offended, if the community has a problem with it then that's that. Seems like you're just defending him because of personal relations. 1st level thinking. I actually have no relationship with orb whatsoever, and saying people were thinking on 1st level isn't insulting, it's just saying things how they are, they're the same type of people who get really offended whenever u joke around with them, even as a friend, learn to not be sensitive, it will be very useful in your entire life
does it sound like im bitchin like some of the people in the thread? I couldn't care less about what happened to orb, but I respect Alex's decision. and I'm pretty sure there would be some people that would argue with your "first level thinking" jab learn to show respect, it will be very useful in your entire life
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On March 09 2012 13:14 -orb- wrote: I would like to extend my sincerest apologies to the community, Evil Geniuses, and all associated sponsors. When I made the hurtful and offensive comments seen on screenshots on reddit/etc, I was not in a proper state of mind. My judgement was clouded by anger, rage, and frustration, and I thought the offensive language would be interpreted as comedy and venting rather than legitimate world views of mine. Clearly I was wrong, and I am so very sorry to anyone I offended. Actually you weren't wrong - Alex Garfield admitted he thought you were not actually racist.
He's a hypocritical sanctimonious asshat, you have nothing to apologise for.
How many, honestly now, how many people, especially those faux-PC reddit drama trolls, if you trawled through their entire history of every replay they had on ladder, custom, stream, skype snippets recorded, maybe their IM chat records, would not have comments similarly embarassing to be taken out of context?
I mean even Mr Garfield, assuming his irritating rant about his own educational credentials and spotless personal ethics are taken at face-value, has many people in his employ that do not meet these standards. Idra is the most famous but far, far from the only example. Ever heard InControl talk? Baller chap, says stuff sometimes you could take out of context.
Christ had a point with the whole 'those without sin casting the first stone' shebang, really he did. You my friend are a martyr of the free word.
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On March 10 2012 11:02 DaemonX wrote:
How many, honestly HOW MANY people, especially those faux-PC reddit drama trolls, if you trawled through their entire history of every replay they had on ladder, custom, stream, skype snippets recorded, maybe their IM chat records, would not have comments similarly embaressing to be taken out of context?
I've raged on ladder a few times. Never called anyone a nigger or a faggot, or even stupid. I've called them lucky, or coin-flippers, or cheesey-bastards.
Just saying, bro. Don't lump everyone in with guys like Orb (or you).
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if only he had said nigga, we wouldn't be having this discussion...
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Good riddance. You won`t be missed by me.
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On March 10 2012 11:02 DaemonX wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 13:14 -orb- wrote: I would like to extend my sincerest apologies to the community, Evil Geniuses, and all associated sponsors. When I made the hurtful and offensive comments seen on screenshots on reddit/etc, I was not in a proper state of mind. My judgement was clouded by anger, rage, and frustration, and I thought the offensive language would be interpreted as comedy and venting rather than legitimate world views of mine. Clearly I was wrong, and I am so very sorry to anyone I offended. Actually you weren't wrong - Alex Garfield admitted he thought you were not actually racist. He's a hypocritical sanctimonious asshat, you have nothing to apologise for. How many, honestly HOW MANY people, especially those faux-PC reddit drama trolls, if you trawled through their entire history of every replay they had on ladder, custom, stream, skype snippets recorded, maybe their IM chat records, would not have comments similarly embaressing to be taken out of context? I mean even Mr Garfield, assuming his irritating rant about his own educational credentials and spotless personal ethics are face-value true, has many people in his employ that do not meet these standards. Idra is the most famous but far, far from the only example. Ever heard InControl talk? Baller chap, says stuff sometimes you could take out of context. Christ had a point with the whole 'those without sin casting the first stone' shebang, really he did. You my friend are a martyr of the free word. you comparing apples to oranges here, Orb was being paid for his personality, how he talked how he communicates with people, thats all they wanted out of him for him to be polite interesting funny knowledgeable and entertaining to the best of his ability
the only thing they ask of IdrA is for him to leap across the metaphorical table and rip his opponents throat out with his bare teeth (and by that i do mean best the opponent in an old fashioned game of starcraft 2) unless IdrA does something completely insane like calling people niggers and raging in interviews (and i mean ltieral frothing at the mouth OMG this guy looks unstable raging not his cool as a cucumber "raging") they wont ever remove him for his personality
the opposite is true for Orb, Reddit proved without a doubt that hes got a pretty big temper and isnt very good at dealing with that temper, all it takes is one bad ladder game before he goes live for an official EG event and then what happened here makes it look like a peaceful summer day, why take that risk?
orb needs to keep his nose clean, no raging on stream no raging on anything that has the name Orb above it he needs some serious smurfs for ladder becuase i gurantee he wont make a 180 and he cant get caught again
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I don't believe you are racist either. There were just some things that were said without thinking that really ended up hurting you in the end. Especially when you're representing an organization, never mind one as well-known as EG, professionalism matters more than most people seem to realize. I certainly hope the best for you in the future.
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honestly this was blown so over the top, orb shouldn't have lost his job when all he did was use a word to replace the place of another he is clearly not racist and the context it is from shows this. I have many colored friends and they all agree with me that when the term nigger is used now days it is either to describe a retarded street thug black man, or just as any other swear word. Theres a difference between an african american man and a nigger.
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On March 10 2012 11:08 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 11:02 DaemonX wrote:
How many, honestly HOW MANY people, especially those faux-PC reddit drama trolls, if you trawled through their entire history of every replay they had on ladder, custom, stream, skype snippets recorded, maybe their IM chat records, would not have comments similarly embaressing to be taken out of context?
I've raged on ladder a few times. Never called anyone a nigger or a faggot, or even stupid. I've called them lucky, or coin-flippers, or cheesey-bastards. Just saying, bro. Don't lump everyone in with guys like Orb (or you).
Oh sorry, you didnt call them stupid, you just called them a bastard...much better.
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Barely anything to even apologize for... You're a good, entertaining caster. Pretty severe overreaction in my opinion.
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On March 10 2012 11:02 DaemonX wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 13:14 -orb- wrote: I would like to extend my sincerest apologies to the community, Evil Geniuses, and all associated sponsors. When I made the hurtful and offensive comments seen on screenshots on reddit/etc, I was not in a proper state of mind. My judgement was clouded by anger, rage, and frustration, and I thought the offensive language would be interpreted as comedy and venting rather than legitimate world views of mine. Clearly I was wrong, and I am so very sorry to anyone I offended. Actually you weren't wrong - Alex Garfield admitted he thought you were not actually racist. He's a hypocritical sanctimonious asshat, you have nothing to apologise for. How many, honestly HOW MANY people, especially those faux-PC reddit drama trolls, if you trawled through their entire history of every replay they had on ladder, custom, stream, skype snippets recorded, maybe their IM chat records, would not have comments similarly embaressing to be taken out of context? I mean even Mr Garfield, assuming his irritating rant about his own educational credentials and spotless personal ethics are face-value true, has many people in his employ that do not meet these standards. Idra is the most famous but far, far from the only example. Ever heard InControl talk? Baller chap, says stuff sometimes you could take out of context. Christ had a point with the whole 'those without sin casting the first stone' shebang, really he did. You my friend are a martyr of the free word.
I concur... I think if Alex would play a lot more StarCraft, he would be saying some pretty awful stuff. Competitive games are frustrating.
<3 Orb <3
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Wow this is very very unfair to you orb imo. You handled it like a boss but to bad people cant take a joke, This has got EG more publicity and they fire you over it? Something that has nothing to do with the now. Sadly your suecess had made a lot of stupid nerds very jealous and they want to see you fail. Honestly if you had something to do with orb getting fire you should be very ashamed at yourself for potentially ruining someones career because you lack motivation to get somewhere yourself in life and you get off to bringing others down on your shitty plane on existence. Go fuck yourself.
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Still waiting for DJwheat, IdrA, Artosis, Naniwa to all get fired form their teams/sponsers. they are just unacceptable to be in this prestigious community.
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This pisses me off so bad, good people getting owned by companies that only watch there back and not there whole team, EG WILL fail.
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On March 10 2012 11:50 Zeevo wrote: Still waiting for DJwheat, IdrA, Artosis, Naniwa to all get fired form their teams/sponsers. they are just unacceptable to be in this prestigious community. DJwheat? seriously? when has he ever raged the dudes a saint
Wow this is very very unfair to you orb imo. You handled it like a boss but to bad people cant take a joke, This has got EG more publicity and they fire you over it? Something that has nothing to do with the now. Sadly your suecess had made a lot of stupid nerds very jealous and they want to see you fail. Honestly if you had something to do with orb getting fire you should be very ashamed at yourself for potentially ruining someones career because you lack motivation to get somewhere yourself in life and you get off to bringing others down on your shitty plane on existence. Go fuck yourself. he lies about it, trys to make excuses and trys to pass it off as no big deal
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On March 10 2012 11:56 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 11:50 Zeevo wrote: Still waiting for DJwheat, IdrA, Artosis, Naniwa to all get fired form their teams/sponsers. they are just unacceptable to be in this prestigious community. DJwheat? seriously? when has he ever raged the dudes a saint Show nested quote +Wow this is very very unfair to you orb imo. You handled it like a boss but to bad people cant take a joke, This has got EG more publicity and they fire you over it? Something that has nothing to do with the now. Sadly your suecess had made a lot of stupid nerds very jealous and they want to see you fail. Honestly if you had something to do with orb getting fire you should be very ashamed at yourself for potentially ruining someones career because you lack motivation to get somewhere yourself in life and you get off to bringing others down on your shitty plane on existence. Go fuck yourself. he lies about it, trys to make excuses and trys to pass it off as no big deal
Hmmmm, I guess i should shut up and get more of the story. BUT it is no big deal. Rage is Rage and its something that shouldn't have ever came back up.
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On March 10 2012 11:59 Ruski wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 11:56 Forikorder wrote:On March 10 2012 11:50 Zeevo wrote: Still waiting for DJwheat, IdrA, Artosis, Naniwa to all get fired form their teams/sponsers. they are just unacceptable to be in this prestigious community. DJwheat? seriously? when has he ever raged the dudes a saint Wow this is very very unfair to you orb imo. You handled it like a boss but to bad people cant take a joke, This has got EG more publicity and they fire you over it? Something that has nothing to do with the now. Sadly your suecess had made a lot of stupid nerds very jealous and they want to see you fail. Honestly if you had something to do with orb getting fire you should be very ashamed at yourself for potentially ruining someones career because you lack motivation to get somewhere yourself in life and you get off to bringing others down on your shitty plane on existence. Go fuck yourself. he lies about it, trys to make excuses and trys to pass it off as no big deal Hmmmm, I guess i should shut up and get more of the story. BUT it is no big deal. Rage is Rage and its something that shouldn't have ever came back up. i was on his side until he linked the reddit post where he "apologizes" the only reason i was defending him was becuase he paniced and wasnt sure what to do but he obviously realised it was soemthing he had to apologize for and literally couldnt realise this was a big deal
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On March 10 2012 11:56 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 11:50 Zeevo wrote: Still waiting for DJwheat, IdrA, Artosis, Naniwa to all get fired form their teams/sponsers. they are just unacceptable to be in this prestigious community. DJwheat? seriously? when has he ever raged the dudes a saint Show nested quote +Wow this is very very unfair to you orb imo. You handled it like a boss but to bad people cant take a joke, This has got EG more publicity and they fire you over it? Something that has nothing to do with the now. Sadly your suecess had made a lot of stupid nerds very jealous and they want to see you fail. Honestly if you had something to do with orb getting fire you should be very ashamed at yourself for potentially ruining someones career because you lack motivation to get somewhere yourself in life and you get off to bringing others down on your shitty plane on existence. Go fuck yourself. he lies about it, trys to make excuses and trys to pass it off as no big deal
This irks me too. it seems waaaaay too much of a coincidence that "his friend" bms the EXACT way orb does while "playing on his account"..................
BM/Rage like that is bad enough, but lying about it is in some ways much worse.....
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