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Ksyper
Bulgaria665 Posts
Orb didn't even know who he was playing and saying that what he said was racist is just dumb, it's obviously because he was raging (as he is known to do). I know it's silly to compare players to casters, but Idra has a long history of BM and it's fine. | ||
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
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ETisME
12821 Posts
Poll: Fair or not Fair? Fair- He even lied about Friend using his account (40) Unfair- They were over 1year+ before he talked to EG. He separate professionism and personal rage (20) Unfair- Everyone makes mistake, words were not used in racial context. (11) Fair - No one should use these words no matter what, community should act upon it (4) Fair- even if it really was his friend using his account, he had been caught using those words (2) 77 total votes Your vote: Fair or not Fair? (Vote): Fair- He even lied about Friend using his account Poll: What if you were Alex? Let Obs go? (30) A temp ban? (27) Support him and release a public statement on your reasoning (8) 65 total votes Your vote: What if you were Alex? (Vote): Let Obs go? My opinion on this matter isn't so important, but I honestly agree with Alex that contacting the Sponsors is a really bad move from the community. Please in the future, don't do that because you didn't even give a chance for EG to explain themselves and what they would do about it. | ||
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Balgrog
United States1221 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/20TVq.png) He lied, and he has not apologized for that once. Orb, man up and admit you lied to everyone just to try and save your self, maybe then this will seem sincere. | ||
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MWY
Germany284 Posts
On March 09 2012 23:35 binkman wrote: I believe it is you who shows himself to be the pathetic one here. This is neither an end to his career nor 'basically kill[ing] him'. And I think you will find that out in the real world, most people over the age of 15 have not felt the need to insult someone by reffering to them as black, or asian, or jewish, or a faggot. Isn't it easier for orb to behave professionally (or even just with maturity) than for everyone he encounters/interacts with to change their behaviour to accommodate him? How many times should we let someone act like a bigot in the public arena, albeit not during their work hours, before we are allowed to think less of them? The answer for me is one time. Live and learn. Don't expect the world to change for you, adjust your own behaviour so that you can exist in it happily. If that means you can't act like a dick, even in 'private', to pursue your desired career, accept that fact or do something else. So he didnt just lose his job thanks to you people? You think with the reputation youre trying to give him here, he will get another shot as a caster? Ah and now youre setting an age limit of using insults. I mean really? youre the one to set this up? He has done those things in the past when he was not a caster. So why would you care. Because he was older then 15? seriously? Tell me. Then again youre setting yourself above him and you somehow take the right to judge him. Without knowing him. Acting like youve never done something wrong. Get this mate. Everbody does things wrong sometimes. And would you find it fair that because you wrestled with your brother as a small child, people accuse you of being a agressive violent idiot, make it public and you get fired? Pretty fair since you should live and learn shouldnt you. I mean if you didnt want to lose youre job, you just shouldnt have wrestled with your bro back then. I mean you couldve thought about the consequences or couldnt you? Then you say something like dont try to change the world, buckle under and adjust. Nice Statement mate. What does it have to do with the topic again? ah right.. And you call me pathetic? haha. | ||
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binkman
Australia40 Posts
On March 10 2012 00:41 Ksyper wrote: I can't believe everyone is being such a little kid about this, can't believe orb lost his "job" because of this. Orb didn't even know who he was playing and saying that what he said was racist is just dumb, it's obviously because he was raging (as he is known to do). I know it's silly to compare players to casters, but Idra has a long history of BM and it's fine. So its ok to call someone a slanty eyed gook, just as long as your aren't sure they are of asian descent? Or if you do it in anger? But in your view calling someone out for acting like a dick is worse than the act of being a dick? | ||
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affliction
Germany198 Posts
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FlyingLigerz
United States163 Posts
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BadgKat
United States156 Posts
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FreshVegetables
Finland513 Posts
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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PleasureImWallace
Canada45 Posts
You don't watch someone spend 2 years raging like an infant an cussing people out on a personal level while playing a game, then deny saying stupid shit ingame, and just be a cocky mole in general, and then believe that they can extend some degree of a "sincere apology" If this apology was sincere it wouldn't have taken half of reddit to get him to admit what he did what wrong I'm just sick of orb, maybe in a couple months I'll watch him, and if he's stopped acting like a 14 year old I'll change my mind, but until then it's curtains from me | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
This whole situation sucks so bad. | ||
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The Starting Line
United States9 Posts
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binkman
Australia40 Posts
On March 10 2012 00:46 MWY wrote: So he didnt just lose his job thanks to you people? You think with the reputation youre trying to give him here, he will get another shot as a caster? Ah and now youre setting an age limit of using insults. I mean really? youre the one to set this up? He has done those things in the past when he was not a caster. So why would you care. Because he was older then 15? seriously? Tell me. Then again youre setting yourself above him and you somehow take the right to judge him. Without knowing him. Acting like youve never done something wrong. Get this mate. Everbody does things wrong sometimes. And would you find it fair that because you wrestled with your brother as a small child, people accuse you of being a agressive violent idiot, make it public and you get fired? Pretty fair since you should live and learn shouldnt you. I mean if you didnt want to lose youre job, you just shouldnt have wrestled with your bro back then. I mean you couldve thought about the consequences or couldnt you? Then you say something like dont try to change the world, buckle under and adjust. Nice Statement mate. What does it have to do with the topic again? ah right.. And you call me pathetic? haha. My point was, act like a dick and expect to be treated like one. Yes everyone makes mistakes, and at some stage those mistakes are going to be more than can be passed off as stupidity in youth. Orb is 23ish, that makes him at least 21 when he said these things, in most countries that means hes considered an adult and should understand his actions have consequences - especially the stupid ones. If orb feels he was fired unlawfully by EG thats something he can follow up on his own. A better idea would probably be to try and move on from this incident, and I am not suggesting that means he stops trying to be a professional caster if that is his desire. In the end though, he lost a job - not the first person in the world to do so, and certainly won't be the last, and I doubt its 'basically kill[ed] him' to use some of your own brilliant hyperbole. And all this 'no right to judge others' bullshit is kind of hypocritical given your whole post dedicated to judging those who judge orb... although the subtleties of that may be lost on you. | ||
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TwoMagTrav
United States195 Posts
/unfollow @bigotsareneat I think the biggest issue I have with this is other members of Team EG do this all the time, while representing EG and get a reprimand at worst. While Orb gets fired for things that happened before because ottersareneat has a degree in black studies. I've never seen your casts before but people seem to like them a lot, keep up the good work! | ||
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Ballack
Norway821 Posts
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HoodedAvatar
Canada115 Posts
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Green Sun s Zenith
Canada85 Posts
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Pure-SC2
United Kingdom1440 Posts
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