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Faricho
Profile Joined April 2011
Colombia116 Posts
March 09 2012 14:28 GMT
#761
Everyone makes mistakes, I forgive you

plz stick arround the SC2 community
"Critics get shit done and they stand up for quality control and the rights of the consumer. Why people decide to hate on them over some misplaced loyalty that is certainly not reciprocated by the company is entirely beyond me" -TotalBisquit
LolnoobInsanity
Profile Joined May 2010
United States183 Posts
March 09 2012 14:29 GMT
#762
this is a bullshit apology. Just fucking apologize. Stop with the excuses. It's like one line of apology, then one line of "even though it's not my fault."
Labbetuss
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway568 Posts
March 09 2012 14:34 GMT
#763
On March 09 2012 20:47 Nayas wrote:
lol @ this drama...

Where is the world going. Creating a problem with nothing~
Get over it already wtf.


Dude, I think you're lagging behind. This is actually how the world works. Sorry (((
MKP | HerO | Taeja | NonY | Creator | NesTea | Bomber | Mvp | Prime 4 ever
BlackGosu
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1046 Posts
March 09 2012 14:34 GMT
#764
FUCK YEAH PUMA!!!!!
Jar Jar Binks
binkman
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia40 Posts
March 09 2012 14:35 GMT
#765
On March 09 2012 23:22 MWY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 23:05 krisss wrote:
"I was drunk..blablabla" When your acting racist when u drink, stop drinking. I would.
"Everyone was scrubbing through replays to prove that im racist...blablabla" You can watch EVERY replay of me, u wont find such a racist thing.


Cool then you used other insults. Who cares. You cant tell me you never raged and insulted somebody in your life. Insults are there to be offensive to the person youre talking to. If its racist, sexist or whatever who gives a shit.

Did you ever see a racial tension of orb on his Stream when he was casting ESV games? No. As it is for every other cast ive watched by him. What makes you think youre above a guy who used some insult 4-5 times. What makes you think you should be his judge altough you have no clue or real reason to be offended. What makes you think you should end his career and basically kill him publicly because of a stupid thing like this. He didnt do anything wrong during professional casts. Thats what matters. Youre the pathetic one here buddy.


I believe it is you who shows himself to be the pathetic one here. This is neither an end to his career nor 'basically kill[ing] him'. And I think you will find that out in the real world, most people over the age of 15 have not felt the need to insult someone by reffering to them as black, or asian, or jewish, or a faggot. Isn't it easier for orb to behave professionally (or even just with maturity) than for everyone he encounters/interacts with to change their behaviour to accommodate him? How many times should we let someone act like a bigot in the public arena, albeit not during their work hours, before we are allowed to think less of them? The answer for me is one time.

Live and learn. Don't expect the world to change for you, adjust your own behaviour so that you can exist in it happily. If that means you can't act like a dick, even in 'private', to pursue your desired career, accept that fact or do something else.
AimlessAmoeba
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada704 Posts
March 09 2012 14:35 GMT
#766
Small potatoes, orb. People are blowing this wayyyyy out of proportion because its the internet and they have nothing better to do.

I feel like EG over-reacted in letting you go, but hey, not much you can do about it now.
inermis
Profile Joined September 2010
353 Posts
March 09 2012 14:35 GMT
#767
looks like r/starcraft became a major force in the starcraft 2 world. i for one find it ridiculous that someone lost his job over some ladder rage. Let's be honest here, who hasn't raged on ladder ? Everyone do from time to time when they become extremely stressed/angry. Firing great caster that orb is for something he has done in the past and some reddit scrub managed to dig it up just because he got owned by orb on the ladder. I understand that orb's behavior was bad, he knows it too and he apologized, in my opinion it should of stopped here. Going as far as to fire him for it is too much in my opinion, specially since he is a great caster.
play hard go pro
betaman
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom355 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 14:44:19
March 09 2012 14:39 GMT
#768
On March 09 2012 13:14 -orb- wrote:
Edit: I wanted to add something to this post due to something many of the responses have been touching on. Many people think that the fact that I have used this awful word in the past means that the first screenshot submitted was in fact myself, and that I lied to the community. This is simply not true. The first screenshot submitted, that I claimed was not me, was in fact not me. My original story still stands, the difference is that as soon as that screenshot came out on reddit, everyone started scrubbing through replays against me and all of my vods, searching for something to prove I am in fact racist. Thus the screenshots from statements I made 1+ year ago surfaced on reddit. Notice as soon as the first of these screenshots was released, I immediately owned up and apologized (as seen here). All of the evidence of me using the N word (which again, was 100% wrong by me) was from old screenshots/vods way before I was even talking to the EG guys, let alone representing them. Sorry for the confusion, I hope this clears up the issue with my perceived "dishonesty." Note in Alex Garfield's statement the supposed "lying" wasn't even an issue, rather just my actions and poor judgement.
As for the lateness in my final apology here and the accusations that I am only doing it now that EG has fired me, I was actually told specifically by EG management not to make any statements (on twitter, teamliquid, or reddit) until they had decided what to do about it and made their own statement. Sorry for this causing any doubt for people as to whether or not my apology is sincere!


Worst apology ever award goes to Orb! The fact you are still trying to claim it was a friend is quite frankly laughable. Your friend that uses exactly the same sort of BM that you are known for? I mean how many people get that angry about lings being run up the ramp when you have forcefields? I would wager a very small percentage. Not only that but this "friend" also plays at a master level when he doesn't even own a copy of the game? How stupid do you think people are? For me you just lost any remaining credibility.
insearchof
Profile Joined July 2011
United States57 Posts
March 09 2012 14:42 GMT
#769
On March 09 2012 21:26 dukem wrote:
Seeing those screen shots did not surprise me at all.



EG players might have some BM in them but nothing like the explicit language this kid used
Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.
fumikey
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada58 Posts
March 09 2012 14:42 GMT
#770
perfect example of bullying in my opinion.

if this were a professional player who had turned caster, I feel that the individual would have been forgiven before any apology was even necessary.
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 14:51:47
March 09 2012 14:43 GMT
#771
Great hopefully we can move on and stop raggin' on this kid. Jesus social media is fuckin scary.

Edit: oh he was dismissed from EG. Holy shit and people are still bitching at him. Makes me fuckin sick.

They could have just waited a week and let this blow over. Great job reddit jackasses.
Tyrgrim
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden83 Posts
March 09 2012 14:45 GMT
#772
BM'ing on ladder is one thing, but some things you just dont fucking say.

And stop pretending like it wasn't you orb, we all know it was. Pathetic.
Helios.Star
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States548 Posts
March 09 2012 14:46 GMT
#773
On March 09 2012 21:32 shell wrote:
This will be my last post about this stupid problem.

I feel this mess is caused by the community because i can't really believe and i don't think anyone believes Orb is a racist and prejudice person, these comments reflect on his imaturity and chilish behaviour if what.. never racism!

It's sad and alarming that everytime someone feels cheatead in anyway they trye and force personalities, players or teams against the wall by pressuring their sponsors, pressuring "public" opinion with threads in TL and reddit and by spamming stuff in the social media, even when a team is yet to make a statment about the incident and asked for some time to solve it.

I'm sad about this community because they forced Orb to unemployment and probably out of this industry for some comments that were meant to "hurt" someone in private and not a attack against a particular race. Anyone that gets offender by it is in my eyes even more racist.

Stupid situation with a even worse outcome imo..

You are managing to kick people that do stuff in our community because of small and stupid mistakes and in the meanwhile others are tolerated with much worse "events"..

GG hope you are proud of it because i see way worse attitudes by professional sports players, politics, actors, musicians and public figuras and they never get haxed like this, i'm talking about:

Guns, fights, drug abuse, Drinking and driving, racism, cheating on husbands/wifes, stealing, dealing, lying, murder, etc.. and people never ever get banned for life like guys are in the eSport community..


Its kind of sick how many people are trying to justify what he did. You do know that word has been historically assigned to ONE particular race right? Next time someone, anyone, pisses you off in real life look them dead in the eye and say "dumb nigger" and see how they react. Then do it again. And again. And again. Do you think people would see you as racist/racially insensitive or just immature? But i guess because its online and he cant actually see who he is insulting we should just forget it happened.
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
March 09 2012 14:46 GMT
#774
Why does all this shit start in reddit.. Is it just me or am I right in saying this? I mean Katu stuff as well was started there. People make mistakes. Give them a warning and move in in my opinion.
Luppa <3
binkman
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia40 Posts
March 09 2012 14:48 GMT
#775
On March 09 2012 23:46 ODKStevez wrote:
Why does all this shit start in reddit.. Is it just me or am I right in saying this? I mean Katu stuff as well was started there. People make mistakes. Give them a warning and move in in my opinion.


You are almost right, except it actually starts with orb/katu.
Overpowered
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic764 Posts
March 09 2012 14:50 GMT
#776
There are many progamers who are totally BM and nobody cares, why -orb- is a problem then?
Just another gold Protoss...
Dont-Panic
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany567 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 14:51:34
March 09 2012 14:51 GMT
#777
I liked your casting and your stream and I hope you continue to create content. Everyone makes mistakes, what you learn from them and how you act afterwards is important.
WCEtobsee
Profile Joined March 2011
22 Posts
March 09 2012 14:53 GMT
#778
I'm just happy orb gets what he deserves
lottopk
Profile Joined February 2012
Korea (North)33 Posts
March 09 2012 14:54 GMT
#779
Pathetic apology. Apologize and and deny it in same post.
For the Emporor
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
March 09 2012 14:56 GMT
#780
I'm not saying Alex is wrong in firing you, but I think people should relax a little and be a little more introspective.

Never said anything horrid when hiding under the veil of internet anonymity?
Have you never been an angsty teenager?

Your actions should have consequences, I agree, but we shouldn't be casting any stones.
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