EPTBut if theres a Bronze Z out there really trying to improve his game, im free for some Free-Coaching (high diamond here) ...
If some1 really wants to take the offer, just pm me (EU server)
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bzhWisa
Austria15 Posts
But if theres a Bronze Z out there really trying to improve his game, im free for some Free-Coaching (high diamond here) ... If some1 really wants to take the offer, just pm me (EU server) | ||
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-_-Quails
Australia796 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
I'm not bronze | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On March 15 2012 02:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Well... Destiny says you can mass queen all the way to Platinum. + Show Spoiler + (And if you're CombatEX you can cannon rush all the way to Grandmaster) What I do know is that I went from Bronze to gold on pure macro and things I learned from BW like storm drop, probe harass, etc. I didn't learn any legit builds, not even 4 gate, until I was gold. After my cyber core I always freestyled. You can go from bronze to platinum by building only stalkers. The reason Destiny used queens is because they are the only low tier unit which can shoot air for Z, the same feat is very easily done with toss using stalkers or terran using marines. | ||
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Fossa
United States67 Posts
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Zythius
Norway94 Posts
Let's face it - progress up the ladder requires not only skill, but also time. Not all of us has time for this. This progress is slowed even more when 50 % of the time you are putting in is dedicated to doing funday mondays and cheese (because just playing normal is boring). I'm in bronze because of this, but I have beaten diamond level players. Also, the lower divisions have changed a lot since SC2 was released. | ||
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Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
Then i watched some bronze replays from toady and i saw 1 gate expands, Banshee openings and 1 1 1. The execution, multitasking and gameplanning might be as bad as a year ago but the builds are way more developed and make so much more sense. The lower leagues are not nearly the same as at release, no shame to be silver or gold. | ||
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TheGreenMachine
United States730 Posts
His faults are obvious to you but probably not to him. Enjoy this journey into the inner mind of the bronze!! http://www.livestream.com/potatostream ^check out vods if its not live | ||
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GeNeSiDe
United Kingdom354 Posts
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Zythius
Norway94 Posts
On March 19 2012 22:34 TheGreenMachine wrote: Hey guys you can watch a stream of a player whos in bronze. He does a little bit of commentary and you can see he really wants to win. His faults are obvious to you but probably not to him. Enjoy this journey into the inner mind of the bronze!! http://www.livestream.com/potatostream ^check out vods if its not live Like I wrote earlier, this is not the general state of the bronze league, and statements like the one highlighted above are false. Correct statement would be: "Enjoy this journey into the inner mind of this single bronze player!!" | ||
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TheGreenMachine
United States730 Posts
On March 19 2012 22:47 Zythius wrote: Like I wrote earlier, this is not the general state of the bronze league, and statements like the one highlighted above are false. Correct statement would be: "Enjoy this journey into the inner mind of this single bronze player!!" Hes a friend of mine who plays a lot of league of legends, world of warcraft, and other random games. Hes not bad at any of them but hes also not very good. Ofcourse he is not dumb, he just doesn't know all of the little things that we starcraft players think of as a given. He does a double scv scout very often too  . | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On March 19 2012 21:43 Zythius wrote: The big problem that some of you are missing is that a bronze player isn't a homogeneous thing. So you can't really make statements that cover all bronze players. There is everything from complete newbs that doesn't know about the hotkey function to people like the ones described in the original post. Let's face it - progress up the ladder requires not only skill, but also time. Not all of us has time for this. This progress is slowed even more when 50 % of the time you are putting in is dedicated to doing funday mondays and cheese (because just playing normal is boring). I'm in bronze because of this, but I have beaten diamond level players. Also, the lower divisions have changed a lot since SC2 was released. Another Bronze bragging about how good he is. Let's be even more honest here. It took me less than 2 days of playing 2 hours a day (10 mins a game average?) to progress from bronze to silver for a smurf I had. If you have the macro-micro skills, even doing funday mondays and cheese will make you win the game. Lower divisions never changed. Bronze is still a cluster of macro-less players who thinks that building workers every 10 in-game minutes works. Or some very weak cheese that can be easily deflected. | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On March 19 2012 21:43 Zythius wrote: The big problem that some of you are missing is that a bronze player isn't a homogeneous thing. So you can't really make statements that cover all bronze players. There is everything from complete newbs that doesn't know about the hotkey function to people like the ones described in the original post. Let's face it - progress up the ladder requires not only skill, but also time. Not all of us has time for this. This progress is slowed even more when 50 % of the time you are putting in is dedicated to doing funday mondays and cheese (because just playing normal is boring). I'm in bronze because of this, but I have beaten diamond level players. Also, the lower divisions have changed a lot since SC2 was released. I have about 45 wins in ladder since SC2 release, I'm in platinum. I have a full time job AND ladder anxiety and a girlfriend who really doesn't want me to play SC2 constantly. Trust me, you can blame a lot for not being an amazing SC2 player, but you can not blame time for the fact that you're in bronze. I play this game 1-2 hours a week on average, if even that and bronze is a joke if you have any idea what you're doing. | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
On March 19 2012 22:34 TheGreenMachine wrote: Hey guys you can watch a stream of a player whos in bronze. He does a little bit of commentary and you can see he really wants to win. His faults are obvious to you but probably not to him. Enjoy this journey into the inner mind of the bronze!! http://www.livestream.com/potatostream ^check out vods if its not live To whoever owns that stream. From "more bad games" first game and I already saw huge problem as mind set. "He doesn't have expansion"... Opponents don't always take natural expansion as their first expansion when playing bronze league (This is not what you see when watching GSL etc so don't assume). How to fix this? Use 1-3 marines/scvs to patrol expansion spots. Just remember to replace them when they get killed. | ||
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Zythius
Norway94 Posts
On March 19 2012 23:01 HaruRH wrote: Another Bronze bragging about how good he is. Let's be even more honest here. It took me less than 2 days of playing 2 hours a day (10 mins a game average?) to progress from bronze to silver for a smurf I had. If you have the macro-micro skills, even doing funday mondays and cheese will make you win the game. Lower divisions never changed. Bronze is still a cluster of macro-less players who thinks that building workers every 10 in-game minutes works. Or some very weak cheese that can be easily deflected. Always nice to start off with a good old Ad hominem ;-) First of all, personal experience is not good grounds for generalization. And how can I confirm what you said about your smurf account? Secondly, do you attempt every single funday monday? And do you really commit to it, or do you just take a normal cookie cutter strategy and make the least possible changes to it? I think the lower levels have changed. The reasoning behind this statement? The game has been out for some time, and people have learned a lot of stuff. And you also need to lay off the general statements you make concerning a league you don't even play in. As I said, "bronze players" are not a homogeneous group. Some of them might think building workers every 10 minutes is viable, but it does not apply to all bronze players (and this makes your statement is incorrect). | ||
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MarcoBrei
Brazil66 Posts
Diamond players should be happy about bronze players, because without bronze there is no diamond. | ||
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TacticalBadger
18 Posts
I'm starting to think that the problem might have less to do with bronze and more with the american server... | ||
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Josh_rakoons
United Kingdom1158 Posts
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zManiacal
United Kingdom38 Posts
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JDub
United States976 Posts
On March 21 2012 04:25 Josh_rakoons wrote: Masters on NA is actually pretty close to platinum/low diamond on EU and KR, some of the decisions and micro on that server is abysmal... Statements like this are inherently false. You could say "low masters on NA", maybe. But "masters" encompasses everyone from low masters baddies to professional players. | ||
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