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Stephano's Ladder Run Round 2 (Season 6) - Page 8

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JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
March 07 2012 17:12 GMT
#141
창조의저녁 is 74-13 on the korean server at #4 GM to me is more impressive than stephano's run. But definitely, this is deserving of credit
redemption
Profile Joined February 2006
United States112 Posts
March 07 2012 17:12 GMT
#142
On March 08 2012 00:30 Acritter wrote:
Lost at Team Monobattles...? Must have randomed Overlords or something.

Seriously, I think that Stephano would be close to the level of Flash if he offered a similar amount of dedication. There's some stuff in his play that can't really be copied. Remember what the BW players say? That there are some builds that only Flash can do because he's Flash? The same thing applies here.

You're comparing Stephano's mass ling/infestor to what Flash does? Please...

And furthermore, I'd argue that DRG plays the mass ling/infestor style at least as good as, if not better than, Stephano does... while having a far superior muta-ling-bane style in his arsenal as well.
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
March 07 2012 17:13 GMT
#143
You should stop make threads like that...
The last one was enough.
Benjamin80
Profile Joined February 2012
581 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 17:16:44
March 07 2012 17:13 GMT
#144
Delete
[QUOTE][B]On March 19 2012 02:32 iNcontroL wrote:[/B] IF LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS YOU CANNON RUSH[/QUOTE]
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1359 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 17:18:21
March 07 2012 17:13 GMT
#145
it's still impressive but its not like he was facing Thorzain , Kas, Mana and such all the time in his ladder run.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 17:18:11
March 07 2012 17:16 GMT
#146
On March 08 2012 02:12 Benjamin80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 02:01 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:53 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:17 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:08 XRaDiiX wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:51 LimitSEA wrote:
I don't know if this is actually MVP, but: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp

Ladder runs aren't really that impressive anywhere but on Korea.


Really trying to take away his from his ladderun? winning above 90% on NA,EU is actually pretty damn good.

Stephano has proven in Tournaments he is easily a Code S level player.


Really? Because I remember a time when Idra was over 90% win rate on NA ladder before the MMR cap made it easy to do so, and with many more games than stephano and people still called him bad. And really there isn't much to take away from stephanos run here because it's just that, ladder. If you really want to praise him, bring up his tournament runnings. Maybe his blizzard cup run or something?


Or his IPL 3 victory, ESWC victory. 2nd place Assemply, 3rd place Assemply. IPL 4 UK qualifier. eOSL Winter 2012, winning 90% of all online tournaments atm 72% on the korean GM ladder rank 7. And a partridge in a pear tree

This good enough for you?

I get it man, but if you dont like the kid just say it out loud, no need to hide it!


But you do realize most of the tournaments he did well in were at the same time as bigger and better tournaments, which means they had very little competition, right? Like Asus rog, when almost every good player was at MLG winter arena?


Yea only the best foreigners was there except Naniwa together with Puma and Polt andLucky . Just becuase you are overhyped and played in MLG winter arena doesnt mean you better.

And most of the tournaments really ?

IPL 3, ESWC and IPL 4 UK qualifier did you see the player list?

Man now you just finding bad excuses and hating come on bro


You're definitely right man. Puma and Polt definitely better than overhyped baddies like MKP and MVP. Lucky definnitely better than overhyped baddies like DRG and nestea. And no I don't have bad excuses for disliking stephano. I dislike him because of his fans that overhype him when he's just another good foreigner. He's good, just that. He's not the best foreigner, and definitely not the best zerg foreigner, or best zerg, or best player like people seem to think, If you want to blindly overhype him go to his fan club.

and to
All the best foreigner players was in Asus only one who was missing was Naniwa im sorry to tell you that


You forgot the other foreigners like Idra and huk, who are better than basically every other foreigner that was at asus rog.
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JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1359 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 17:18:29
March 07 2012 17:18 GMT
#147
HyDrA_solic
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Portugal491 Posts
March 07 2012 17:19 GMT
#148
On March 08 2012 02:16 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 02:12 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:01 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:53 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:17 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:08 XRaDiiX wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:51 LimitSEA wrote:
I don't know if this is actually MVP, but: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp

Ladder runs aren't really that impressive anywhere but on Korea.


Really trying to take away his from his ladderun? winning above 90% on NA,EU is actually pretty damn good.

Stephano has proven in Tournaments he is easily a Code S level player.


Really? Because I remember a time when Idra was over 90% win rate on NA ladder before the MMR cap made it easy to do so, and with many more games than stephano and people still called him bad. And really there isn't much to take away from stephanos run here because it's just that, ladder. If you really want to praise him, bring up his tournament runnings. Maybe his blizzard cup run or something?


Or his IPL 3 victory, ESWC victory. 2nd place Assemply, 3rd place Assemply. IPL 4 UK qualifier. eOSL Winter 2012, winning 90% of all online tournaments atm 72% on the korean GM ladder rank 7. And a partridge in a pear tree

This good enough for you?

I get it man, but if you dont like the kid just say it out loud, no need to hide it!


But you do realize most of the tournaments he did well in were at the same time as bigger and better tournaments, which means they had very little competition, right? Like Asus rog, when almost every good player was at MLG winter arena?


Yea only the best foreigners was there except Naniwa together with Puma and Polt andLucky . Just becuase you are overhyped and played in MLG winter arena doesnt mean you better.

And most of the tournaments really ?

IPL 3, ESWC and IPL 4 UK qualifier did you see the player list?

Man now you just finding bad excuses and hating come on bro


You're definitely right man. Puma and Polt definitely better than overhyped baddies like MKP and MVP. Lucky definnitely better than overhyped baddies like DRG and nestea. And no I don't have bad excuses for disliking stephano. I dislike him because of his fans that overhype him when he's just another good foreigner. He's good, just that. He's not the best foreigner, and definitely not the best zerg foreigner, or best zerg, or best player like people seem to think, If you want to blindly overhype him go to his fan club.

and to
Show nested quote +
All the best foreigner players was in Asus only one who was missing was Naniwa im sorry to tell you that


You forgot the other foreigners like Idra and huk, who are better than basically every other foreigner that was at asus rog.


so who's the best foreigner for you, may I ask?
It's all about the reflections of freedom. Even though he hoped for a better world, with all his strenght, all his will, the most he could do was to make her smile.
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
March 07 2012 17:19 GMT
#149
What about HuK's lollerific 25-0 that got tarnished by Sheth's ESCapades?

I mean... once a player is at THAT level ladder just becomes playing against yourself/against a computer that WILL lose... you just have to do what you already know how to...
A time to live.
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
March 07 2012 17:20 GMT
#150
Stephano streams ladder games on twitch.tv and his videos are automatically archived by twitch and viewable as VODs.

You can see them here
http://www.twitch.tv/mstephano/

For those wanting to see his games from his time on Korean Ladder, you can see his Ladder run from his time in Korea by going back to the early December 2011 videos. They are all still viewable. He played a lot of the big names in Korea.

http://www.twitch.tv/mstephano/videos?page=7
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
March 07 2012 17:20 GMT
#151
On March 08 2012 02:16 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 02:12 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:01 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:53 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:17 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:08 XRaDiiX wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:51 LimitSEA wrote:
I don't know if this is actually MVP, but: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp

Ladder runs aren't really that impressive anywhere but on Korea.


Really trying to take away his from his ladderun? winning above 90% on NA,EU is actually pretty damn good.

Stephano has proven in Tournaments he is easily a Code S level player.


Really? Because I remember a time when Idra was over 90% win rate on NA ladder before the MMR cap made it easy to do so, and with many more games than stephano and people still called him bad. And really there isn't much to take away from stephanos run here because it's just that, ladder. If you really want to praise him, bring up his tournament runnings. Maybe his blizzard cup run or something?


Or his IPL 3 victory, ESWC victory. 2nd place Assemply, 3rd place Assemply. IPL 4 UK qualifier. eOSL Winter 2012, winning 90% of all online tournaments atm 72% on the korean GM ladder rank 7. And a partridge in a pear tree

This good enough for you?

I get it man, but if you dont like the kid just say it out loud, no need to hide it!


But you do realize most of the tournaments he did well in were at the same time as bigger and better tournaments, which means they had very little competition, right? Like Asus rog, when almost every good player was at MLG winter arena?


Yea only the best foreigners was there except Naniwa together with Puma and Polt andLucky . Just becuase you are overhyped and played in MLG winter arena doesnt mean you better.

And most of the tournaments really ?

IPL 3, ESWC and IPL 4 UK qualifier did you see the player list?

Man now you just finding bad excuses and hating come on bro


You're definitely right man. Puma and Polt definitely better than overhyped baddies like MKP and MVP. Lucky definnitely better than overhyped baddies like DRG and nestea. And no I don't have bad excuses for disliking stephano. I dislike him because of his fans that overhype him when he's just another good foreigner. He's good, just that. He's not the best foreigner, and definitely not the best zerg foreigner, or best zerg, or best player like people seem to think, If you want to blindly overhype him go to his fan club.


Who's the best foreigner then? And the best foreign zerg?

It's seems that you are blindly overhyping some guys too, specially zergs, exactly what you dislike from a small part of Stephano's fans.
"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
Benjamin80
Profile Joined February 2012
581 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 17:21:54
March 07 2012 17:21 GMT
#152
On March 08 2012 02:16 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 02:12 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:01 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:53 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:17 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:08 XRaDiiX wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:51 LimitSEA wrote:
I don't know if this is actually MVP, but: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp

Ladder runs aren't really that impressive anywhere but on Korea.


Really trying to take away his from his ladderun? winning above 90% on NA,EU is actually pretty damn good.

Stephano has proven in Tournaments he is easily a Code S level player.


Really? Because I remember a time when Idra was over 90% win rate on NA ladder before the MMR cap made it easy to do so, and with many more games than stephano and people still called him bad. And really there isn't much to take away from stephanos run here because it's just that, ladder. If you really want to praise him, bring up his tournament runnings. Maybe his blizzard cup run or something?


Or his IPL 3 victory, ESWC victory. 2nd place Assemply, 3rd place Assemply. IPL 4 UK qualifier. eOSL Winter 2012, winning 90% of all online tournaments atm 72% on the korean GM ladder rank 7. And a partridge in a pear tree

This good enough for you?

I get it man, but if you dont like the kid just say it out loud, no need to hide it!


But you do realize most of the tournaments he did well in were at the same time as bigger and better tournaments, which means they had very little competition, right? Like Asus rog, when almost every good player was at MLG winter arena?


Yea only the best foreigners was there except Naniwa together with Puma and Polt andLucky . Just becuase you are overhyped and played in MLG winter arena doesnt mean you better.

And most of the tournaments really ?

IPL 3, ESWC and IPL 4 UK qualifier did you see the player list?

Man now you just finding bad excuses and hating come on bro


You're definitely right man. Puma and Polt definitely better than overhyped baddies like MKP and MVP. Lucky definnitely better than overhyped baddies like DRG and nestea. And no I don't have bad excuses for disliking stephano. I dislike him because of his fans that overhype him when he's just another good foreigner. He's good, just that. He's not the best foreigner, and definitely not the best zerg foreigner, or best zerg, or best player like people seem to think, If you want to blindly overhype him go to his fan club.

and to
Show nested quote +
All the best foreigner players was in Asus only one who was missing was Naniwa im sorry to tell you that


You forgot the other foreigners like Idra and huk, who are better than basically every other foreigner that was at asus rog.


Idra?

Really the idra that got 13 of 50 (26%) since Dreamhack and just got 1-4 in his group at IEM or are you speaking of another Idra. And Huk got the worst PvZ in the world atm so yea he needs to work on that before he can get back to the top

I dont know if you just trolling me tbh
[QUOTE][B]On March 19 2012 02:32 iNcontroL wrote:[/B] IF LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS YOU CANNON RUSH[/QUOTE]
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
March 07 2012 17:22 GMT
#153
On March 08 2012 02:20 Agathon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 02:16 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:12 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:01 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:53 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:17 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:08 XRaDiiX wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:51 LimitSEA wrote:
I don't know if this is actually MVP, but: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp

Ladder runs aren't really that impressive anywhere but on Korea.


Really trying to take away his from his ladderun? winning above 90% on NA,EU is actually pretty damn good.

Stephano has proven in Tournaments he is easily a Code S level player.


Really? Because I remember a time when Idra was over 90% win rate on NA ladder before the MMR cap made it easy to do so, and with many more games than stephano and people still called him bad. And really there isn't much to take away from stephanos run here because it's just that, ladder. If you really want to praise him, bring up his tournament runnings. Maybe his blizzard cup run or something?


Or his IPL 3 victory, ESWC victory. 2nd place Assemply, 3rd place Assemply. IPL 4 UK qualifier. eOSL Winter 2012, winning 90% of all online tournaments atm 72% on the korean GM ladder rank 7. And a partridge in a pear tree

This good enough for you?

I get it man, but if you dont like the kid just say it out loud, no need to hide it!


But you do realize most of the tournaments he did well in were at the same time as bigger and better tournaments, which means they had very little competition, right? Like Asus rog, when almost every good player was at MLG winter arena?


Yea only the best foreigners was there except Naniwa together with Puma and Polt andLucky . Just becuase you are overhyped and played in MLG winter arena doesnt mean you better.

And most of the tournaments really ?

IPL 3, ESWC and IPL 4 UK qualifier did you see the player list?

Man now you just finding bad excuses and hating come on bro


You're definitely right man. Puma and Polt definitely better than overhyped baddies like MKP and MVP. Lucky definnitely better than overhyped baddies like DRG and nestea. And no I don't have bad excuses for disliking stephano. I dislike him because of his fans that overhype him when he's just another good foreigner. He's good, just that. He's not the best foreigner, and definitely not the best zerg foreigner, or best zerg, or best player like people seem to think, If you want to blindly overhype him go to his fan club.


Who's the best foreigner then? And the best foreign zerg?

It's seems that you are blindly overhyping some guys too, specially zergs, exactly what you dislike from a small part of Stephano's fans.

He is definetly the best foreigner zerg. But there is no best foreigner atm. NaNiwa, Stephano, possibly Major are the best skill-wise
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 17:24:00
March 07 2012 17:22 GMT
#154
On March 08 2012 02:19 HyDrA_solic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 02:16 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:12 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:01 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:53 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:17 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:08 XRaDiiX wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:51 LimitSEA wrote:
I don't know if this is actually MVP, but: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp

Ladder runs aren't really that impressive anywhere but on Korea.


Really trying to take away his from his ladderun? winning above 90% on NA,EU is actually pretty damn good.

Stephano has proven in Tournaments he is easily a Code S level player.


Really? Because I remember a time when Idra was over 90% win rate on NA ladder before the MMR cap made it easy to do so, and with many more games than stephano and people still called him bad. And really there isn't much to take away from stephanos run here because it's just that, ladder. If you really want to praise him, bring up his tournament runnings. Maybe his blizzard cup run or something?


Or his IPL 3 victory, ESWC victory. 2nd place Assemply, 3rd place Assemply. IPL 4 UK qualifier. eOSL Winter 2012, winning 90% of all online tournaments atm 72% on the korean GM ladder rank 7. And a partridge in a pear tree

This good enough for you?

I get it man, but if you dont like the kid just say it out loud, no need to hide it!


But you do realize most of the tournaments he did well in were at the same time as bigger and better tournaments, which means they had very little competition, right? Like Asus rog, when almost every good player was at MLG winter arena?


Yea only the best foreigners was there except Naniwa together with Puma and Polt andLucky . Just becuase you are overhyped and played in MLG winter arena doesnt mean you better.

And most of the tournaments really ?

IPL 3, ESWC and IPL 4 UK qualifier did you see the player list?

Man now you just finding bad excuses and hating come on bro


You're definitely right man. Puma and Polt definitely better than overhyped baddies like MKP and MVP. Lucky definnitely better than overhyped baddies like DRG and nestea. And no I don't have bad excuses for disliking stephano. I dislike him because of his fans that overhype him when he's just another good foreigner. He's good, just that. He's not the best foreigner, and definitely not the best zerg foreigner, or best zerg, or best player like people seem to think, If you want to blindly overhype him go to his fan club.

and to
All the best foreigner players was in Asus only one who was missing was Naniwa im sorry to tell you that


You forgot the other foreigners like Idra and huk, who are better than basically every other foreigner that was at asus rog.


so who's the best foreigner for you, may I ask?


There isn't one right now. Every top foreigner has their moments of brilliance and moments of just getting owned, so far no foreigner has consistently done well enough vs other foreigners or koreans to be considered "top foreigner"

And to other guy, no major is nowhere near the list of top foreigners. Also you forgot to add huk, idra, select, thorzain, ret, select. And I will say Idra is definitely better than stephano. Idra just has too many fanboys and anti-fanboys that makes it hard to take anything about him serious at times.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
March 07 2012 17:22 GMT
#155
He's not the best foreigner, and definitely not the best zerg foreigner, or best zerg



i dont think there is a western player who can be confident in a BO5 against stephano
this kinda makes him best foreigner and best foreigner zerg, sorry

just the fact that stephano was floating around rank 30 KR GM straight out of the plane without spending half a year in a korean pro house should be enough.

In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 17:25:18
March 07 2012 17:24 GMT
#156
On March 08 2012 02:22 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 02:19 HyDrA_solic wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:16 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:12 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:01 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:53 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:17 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:08 XRaDiiX wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:51 LimitSEA wrote:
I don't know if this is actually MVP, but: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp

Ladder runs aren't really that impressive anywhere but on Korea.


Really trying to take away his from his ladderun? winning above 90% on NA,EU is actually pretty damn good.

Stephano has proven in Tournaments he is easily a Code S level player.


Really? Because I remember a time when Idra was over 90% win rate on NA ladder before the MMR cap made it easy to do so, and with many more games than stephano and people still called him bad. And really there isn't much to take away from stephanos run here because it's just that, ladder. If you really want to praise him, bring up his tournament runnings. Maybe his blizzard cup run or something?


Or his IPL 3 victory, ESWC victory. 2nd place Assemply, 3rd place Assemply. IPL 4 UK qualifier. eOSL Winter 2012, winning 90% of all online tournaments atm 72% on the korean GM ladder rank 7. And a partridge in a pear tree

This good enough for you?

I get it man, but if you dont like the kid just say it out loud, no need to hide it!


But you do realize most of the tournaments he did well in were at the same time as bigger and better tournaments, which means they had very little competition, right? Like Asus rog, when almost every good player was at MLG winter arena?


Yea only the best foreigners was there except Naniwa together with Puma and Polt andLucky . Just becuase you are overhyped and played in MLG winter arena doesnt mean you better.

And most of the tournaments really ?

IPL 3, ESWC and IPL 4 UK qualifier did you see the player list?

Man now you just finding bad excuses and hating come on bro


You're definitely right man. Puma and Polt definitely better than overhyped baddies like MKP and MVP. Lucky definnitely better than overhyped baddies like DRG and nestea. And no I don't have bad excuses for disliking stephano. I dislike him because of his fans that overhype him when he's just another good foreigner. He's good, just that. He's not the best foreigner, and definitely not the best zerg foreigner, or best zerg, or best player like people seem to think, If you want to blindly overhype him go to his fan club.

and to
All the best foreigner players was in Asus only one who was missing was Naniwa im sorry to tell you that


You forgot the other foreigners like Idra and huk, who are better than basically every other foreigner that was at asus rog.


so who's the best foreigner for you, may I ask?


There isn't one right now. Every top foreigner has their moments of brilliance and moments of just getting owned, so far no foreigner has consistently done well enough vs other foreigners or koreans to be considered "top foreigner"


Nestea said Stephano was the best Foreigner in State of the Game. Are you saying Nestea does not know what he is talking about and that he is wrong to claim Stephano is the best Foreigner?
Benjamin80
Profile Joined February 2012
581 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 17:25:41
March 07 2012 17:25 GMT
#157
On March 08 2012 02:22 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 02:19 HyDrA_solic wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:16 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:12 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:01 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:53 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:17 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:08 XRaDiiX wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:51 LimitSEA wrote:
I don't know if this is actually MVP, but: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp

Ladder runs aren't really that impressive anywhere but on Korea.


Really trying to take away his from his ladderun? winning above 90% on NA,EU is actually pretty damn good.

Stephano has proven in Tournaments he is easily a Code S level player.


Really? Because I remember a time when Idra was over 90% win rate on NA ladder before the MMR cap made it easy to do so, and with many more games than stephano and people still called him bad. And really there isn't much to take away from stephanos run here because it's just that, ladder. If you really want to praise him, bring up his tournament runnings. Maybe his blizzard cup run or something?


Or his IPL 3 victory, ESWC victory. 2nd place Assemply, 3rd place Assemply. IPL 4 UK qualifier. eOSL Winter 2012, winning 90% of all online tournaments atm 72% on the korean GM ladder rank 7. And a partridge in a pear tree

This good enough for you?

I get it man, but if you dont like the kid just say it out loud, no need to hide it!


But you do realize most of the tournaments he did well in were at the same time as bigger and better tournaments, which means they had very little competition, right? Like Asus rog, when almost every good player was at MLG winter arena?


Yea only the best foreigners was there except Naniwa together with Puma and Polt andLucky . Just becuase you are overhyped and played in MLG winter arena doesnt mean you better.

And most of the tournaments really ?

IPL 3, ESWC and IPL 4 UK qualifier did you see the player list?

Man now you just finding bad excuses and hating come on bro


You're definitely right man. Puma and Polt definitely better than overhyped baddies like MKP and MVP. Lucky definnitely better than overhyped baddies like DRG and nestea. And no I don't have bad excuses for disliking stephano. I dislike him because of his fans that overhype him when he's just another good foreigner. He's good, just that. He's not the best foreigner, and definitely not the best zerg foreigner, or best zerg, or best player like people seem to think, If you want to blindly overhype him go to his fan club.

and to
All the best foreigner players was in Asus only one who was missing was Naniwa im sorry to tell you that


You forgot the other foreigners like Idra and huk, who are better than basically every other foreigner that was at asus rog.


so who's the best foreigner for you, may I ask?


There isn't one right now. Every top foreigner has their moments of brilliance and moments of just getting owned, so far no foreigner has consistently done well enough vs other foreigners or koreans to be considered "top foreigner"


haha so what do you have todo to be consistently doing well? I really want to know becuase if it isnt enough what Stephano has done the last 6months then im not sure.

The kid wins allmost everything
[QUOTE][B]On March 19 2012 02:32 iNcontroL wrote:[/B] IF LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS YOU CANNON RUSH[/QUOTE]
Benjamin80
Profile Joined February 2012
581 Posts
March 07 2012 17:26 GMT
#158
On March 08 2012 02:22 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 02:19 HyDrA_solic wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:16 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:12 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:01 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:53 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:17 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:08 XRaDiiX wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:51 LimitSEA wrote:
I don't know if this is actually MVP, but: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp

Ladder runs aren't really that impressive anywhere but on Korea.


Really trying to take away his from his ladderun? winning above 90% on NA,EU is actually pretty damn good.

Stephano has proven in Tournaments he is easily a Code S level player.


Really? Because I remember a time when Idra was over 90% win rate on NA ladder before the MMR cap made it easy to do so, and with many more games than stephano and people still called him bad. And really there isn't much to take away from stephanos run here because it's just that, ladder. If you really want to praise him, bring up his tournament runnings. Maybe his blizzard cup run or something?


Or his IPL 3 victory, ESWC victory. 2nd place Assemply, 3rd place Assemply. IPL 4 UK qualifier. eOSL Winter 2012, winning 90% of all online tournaments atm 72% on the korean GM ladder rank 7. And a partridge in a pear tree

This good enough for you?

I get it man, but if you dont like the kid just say it out loud, no need to hide it!


But you do realize most of the tournaments he did well in were at the same time as bigger and better tournaments, which means they had very little competition, right? Like Asus rog, when almost every good player was at MLG winter arena?


Yea only the best foreigners was there except Naniwa together with Puma and Polt andLucky . Just becuase you are overhyped and played in MLG winter arena doesnt mean you better.

And most of the tournaments really ?

IPL 3, ESWC and IPL 4 UK qualifier did you see the player list?

Man now you just finding bad excuses and hating come on bro


You're definitely right man. Puma and Polt definitely better than overhyped baddies like MKP and MVP. Lucky definnitely better than overhyped baddies like DRG and nestea. And no I don't have bad excuses for disliking stephano. I dislike him because of his fans that overhype him when he's just another good foreigner. He's good, just that. He's not the best foreigner, and definitely not the best zerg foreigner, or best zerg, or best player like people seem to think, If you want to blindly overhype him go to his fan club.

and to
All the best foreigner players was in Asus only one who was missing was Naniwa im sorry to tell you that


You forgot the other foreigners like Idra and huk, who are better than basically every other foreigner that was at asus rog.


so who's the best foreigner for you, may I ask?


There isn't one right now. Every top foreigner has their moments of brilliance and moments of just getting owned, so far no foreigner has consistently done well enough vs other foreigners or koreans to be considered "top foreigner"

And to other guy, no major is nowhere near the list of top foreigners. Also you forgot to add huk, idra, select, thorzain, ret, select. And I will say Idra is definitely better than stephano. Idra just has too many fanboys and anti-fanboys that makes it hard to take anything about him serious at times.


ok lol now you just trolling me. I have had enough have a nice day sir
[QUOTE][B]On March 19 2012 02:32 iNcontroL wrote:[/B] IF LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS YOU CANNON RUSH[/QUOTE]
HyDrA_solic
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Portugal491 Posts
March 07 2012 17:27 GMT
#159
On March 08 2012 02:22 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 02:19 HyDrA_solic wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:16 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:12 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:01 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:53 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:17 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:08 XRaDiiX wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:51 LimitSEA wrote:
I don't know if this is actually MVP, but: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp

Ladder runs aren't really that impressive anywhere but on Korea.


Really trying to take away his from his ladderun? winning above 90% on NA,EU is actually pretty damn good.

Stephano has proven in Tournaments he is easily a Code S level player.


Really? Because I remember a time when Idra was over 90% win rate on NA ladder before the MMR cap made it easy to do so, and with many more games than stephano and people still called him bad. And really there isn't much to take away from stephanos run here because it's just that, ladder. If you really want to praise him, bring up his tournament runnings. Maybe his blizzard cup run or something?


Or his IPL 3 victory, ESWC victory. 2nd place Assemply, 3rd place Assemply. IPL 4 UK qualifier. eOSL Winter 2012, winning 90% of all online tournaments atm 72% on the korean GM ladder rank 7. And a partridge in a pear tree

This good enough for you?

I get it man, but if you dont like the kid just say it out loud, no need to hide it!


But you do realize most of the tournaments he did well in were at the same time as bigger and better tournaments, which means they had very little competition, right? Like Asus rog, when almost every good player was at MLG winter arena?


Yea only the best foreigners was there except Naniwa together with Puma and Polt andLucky . Just becuase you are overhyped and played in MLG winter arena doesnt mean you better.

And most of the tournaments really ?

IPL 3, ESWC and IPL 4 UK qualifier did you see the player list?

Man now you just finding bad excuses and hating come on bro


You're definitely right man. Puma and Polt definitely better than overhyped baddies like MKP and MVP. Lucky definnitely better than overhyped baddies like DRG and nestea. And no I don't have bad excuses for disliking stephano. I dislike him because of his fans that overhype him when he's just another good foreigner. He's good, just that. He's not the best foreigner, and definitely not the best zerg foreigner, or best zerg, or best player like people seem to think, If you want to blindly overhype him go to his fan club.

and to
All the best foreigner players was in Asus only one who was missing was Naniwa im sorry to tell you that


You forgot the other foreigners like Idra and huk, who are better than basically every other foreigner that was at asus rog.


so who's the best foreigner for you, may I ask?


There isn't one right now. Every top foreigner has their moments of brilliance and moments of just getting owned, so far no foreigner has consistently done well enough vs other foreigners or koreans to be considered "top foreigner"

And to other guy, no major is nowhere near the list of top foreigners. Also you forgot to add huk, idra, select, thorzain, ret, select. And I will say Idra is definitely better than stephano. Idra just has too many fanboys and anti-fanboys that makes it hard to take anything about him serious at times.


dude c'mon, thats downhype against stephano... In the last year stephano was the most consistent foreigner. Period.
If that doesn't convince you, check his KR Ladder status where he reached Top 30. Easily. In like 1/2 weeks.
Idra? are you serious?
With HuK yes I may agree that HuK has a shot, but he's been in KR for ages--
It's all about the reflections of freedom. Even though he hoped for a better world, with all his strenght, all his will, the most he could do was to make her smile.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
March 07 2012 17:27 GMT
#160
On March 08 2012 02:25 Benjamin80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 02:22 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:19 HyDrA_solic wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:16 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:12 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 02:01 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:53 Benjamin80 wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:17 hunts wrote:
On March 08 2012 01:08 XRaDiiX wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:51 LimitSEA wrote:
I don't know if this is actually MVP, but: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp

Ladder runs aren't really that impressive anywhere but on Korea.


Really trying to take away his from his ladderun? winning above 90% on NA,EU is actually pretty damn good.

Stephano has proven in Tournaments he is easily a Code S level player.


Really? Because I remember a time when Idra was over 90% win rate on NA ladder before the MMR cap made it easy to do so, and with many more games than stephano and people still called him bad. And really there isn't much to take away from stephanos run here because it's just that, ladder. If you really want to praise him, bring up his tournament runnings. Maybe his blizzard cup run or something?


Or his IPL 3 victory, ESWC victory. 2nd place Assemply, 3rd place Assemply. IPL 4 UK qualifier. eOSL Winter 2012, winning 90% of all online tournaments atm 72% on the korean GM ladder rank 7. And a partridge in a pear tree

This good enough for you?

I get it man, but if you dont like the kid just say it out loud, no need to hide it!


But you do realize most of the tournaments he did well in were at the same time as bigger and better tournaments, which means they had very little competition, right? Like Asus rog, when almost every good player was at MLG winter arena?


Yea only the best foreigners was there except Naniwa together with Puma and Polt andLucky . Just becuase you are overhyped and played in MLG winter arena doesnt mean you better.

And most of the tournaments really ?

IPL 3, ESWC and IPL 4 UK qualifier did you see the player list?

Man now you just finding bad excuses and hating come on bro


You're definitely right man. Puma and Polt definitely better than overhyped baddies like MKP and MVP. Lucky definnitely better than overhyped baddies like DRG and nestea. And no I don't have bad excuses for disliking stephano. I dislike him because of his fans that overhype him when he's just another good foreigner. He's good, just that. He's not the best foreigner, and definitely not the best zerg foreigner, or best zerg, or best player like people seem to think, If you want to blindly overhype him go to his fan club.

and to
All the best foreigner players was in Asus only one who was missing was Naniwa im sorry to tell you that


You forgot the other foreigners like Idra and huk, who are better than basically every other foreigner that was at asus rog.


so who's the best foreigner for you, may I ask?


There isn't one right now. Every top foreigner has their moments of brilliance and moments of just getting owned, so far no foreigner has consistently done well enough vs other foreigners or koreans to be considered "top foreigner"


haha so what do you have todo to be consistently doing well? I really want to know becuase if it isnt enough what Stephano has done the last 6months then im not sure.

The kid wins allmost everything


Again, he wins in the underdog tournaments. If he can win an MLG with actual good koreans there, or if he can even qualify for code A in GSL, or win any tournaments with more than just a couple koreans in it, then he can be considered a top foreigner.
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