Stephano's Ladder Run Round 2 (Season 6)

On March 07 2012 18:36 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
Stephano is a great player, the EU ladder is not the worst ladder but is no where near as good as Korea so these type of streaks are possible.

On March 07 2012 18:37 DreamOen wrote:
Such a crazy record, but I think the same could happen if Nestea/Mvp/mc, or even when huk play on EU ladder, they get records like that.I'm curious about what stephano could achieve in the korean ladder with all that beasts around.

On March 07 2012 18:38 ZenithM wrote:

BUT HE LOST A FUCKING MONOBATTLE, WHAT A NAB

On March 07 2012 18:38 ZenithM wrote:

BUT HE LOST A FUCKING MONOBATTLE, WHAT A NAB

On March 07 2012 18:46 Nelz wrote:
He's not even playing ladder seriously, he just make full ling most of the time versus terran and win without any problems.

He's really bored by the EU ladder, he's thinking to another trip in korea in April but he's not sure yet.

On March 07 2012 18:53 eraphocis wrote:


thought he wasn't going back to korea?

last time he said he already learned all what was to learn from korea, now its only about training and practice, and he can do that in EU.

On March 07 2012 18:51 LimitSEA wrote:
I don't know if this is actually MVP, but: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp

Ladder runs aren't really that impressive anywhere but on Korea.

On March 07 2012 18:46 Nelz wrote:
He's not even playing ladder seriously, he just make full ling most of the time versus terran and win without any problems.

He's really bored by the EU ladder, he's thinking to another trip in korea in April but he's not sure yet.

On March 07 2012 18:37 Tump wrote:
Talented former Warcraft 3 player with lots of dedication and skill and time to practice. His practice methods work, foreigners should use him as an example to improve.

Also, EU>NA not necessarily true, especially at the very top level that Stephano plays at. Many Koreans fill the high GM League on NA. So once you get to that level (where Stephano plays at) than NA is probably harder. Obviously below that is much more European favored.

On March 07 2012 18:55 Lorch wrote:
Well ladder is ladder and not really something challenging. Even though this run is impressive, all it shows is that sadly stephano's main practice (as he stated himself before) comes from ladder. There is a reason most top koreans don't care about ladder/don't even practice on it. Any top level pro is capable of getting >70% winratio on any ladder, given that EU is way under the KR level it's even easier on EU.

I don't even see why we keep getting threads over him doing well on ladder, I hope we can get away from the assumption of ladder rank/performance = skill.

On March 07 2012 19:32 Poopi wrote:
I forced him to make roachs, fuck yeah 8)

On March 07 2012 19:23 HyunA wrote:
yes but who is Kingler?

On March 07 2012 20:16 MrBitter wrote:
This is actually very simple. Stephano is the best player in Europe. Therefore, he wins. Lots.

On March 07 2012 20:18 tapk69 wrote:
Stephano is the best player on Europe right now so its normal...

Zerg is easiest race to Macro and micro (no micro) so he is a beast late game and one of the best zergs ive seen in early and mid-game

On March 07 2012 18:37 ThatGuy89 wrote:
our opinion is to stop threads like this being made -_-
when the last one was made, it was made clear that it wasnt worth a thread.

This can be posted in his fan club or something, or even the old stephano ladder run thread

On March 07 2012 20:13 lachy89 wrote:
This may sound like a stupid question... But is constantly destroying people on the ladder really the best level of practice?

Having said that it is very impressive.

On March 07 2012 20:58 Jakkerr wrote:
Stephano is by far the best player outside of Korea.
No1 comes close to him atm, lets hope he continues practicing hard.

On March 07 2012 21:20 Rassy wrote:
How has Mmr cap annything to do with this?
(didnt knew it was capped btw)
Mmr cap is completely irrelevant
Only effect of mmr cap is that stephano has more ladder points then he would have without mmr cap
if he gets rated as 2500 at the cap,while he would be for example 2600 without cap, he gets more points for winning

On March 07 2012 21:19 Nizzy wrote:


Stephano is top 3 without a doubt, but guaranteed the best? Morrow is insanely impressive for a dual racer. HuK might be the best PvP in the world. He beat like 4 korean protoss players in the last MLG arena. Naniwa beats a ton of top Koreans consistently as well.

That ladder run is so impressive. Everytime I think of Stephano I think of IdrA from a video a few months back where he basically down plays Stephano saying people already figured him out and he's going to phase out. Looks like that's the exact opposite and is exactly what's happening to IdrA atm, sadly. Americans are losing power in the scene


but "gratz!" to Stephano.

On March 07 2012 21:19 Nizzy wrote:

HuK might be the best PvP in the world.

On March 07 2012 18:51 LimitSEA wrote:
I don't know if this is actually MVP, but: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp

Ladder runs aren't really that impressive anywhere but on Korea.

On March 07 2012 18:43 USvBleakill wrote:
Losing a monobattle... he should really quit sc2 with such bad results.

113 to 12 is a impressive run no matter how bad or good EU ladder is. btw who is kingler? some korean protoss smurf?

On March 07 2012 18:55 Lorch wrote:
Well ladder is ladder and not really something challenging. Even though this run is impressive, all it shows is that sadly stephano's main practice (as he stated himself before) comes from ladder. There is a reason most top koreans don't care about ladder/don't even practice on it. Any top level pro is capable of getting >70% winratio on any ladder, given that EU is way under the KR level it's even easier on EU.

I don't even see why we keep getting threads over him doing well on ladder, I hope we can get away from the assumption of ladder rank/performance = skill.

On March 07 2012 22:33 CluEleSs_UK wrote:


Kingler is MC isn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong

On March 07 2012 23:12 setzer wrote:
Wow another thread discussing Stephano's compeletely meaningless ladder results. Does it still actually surprise people he is the best non-Korean?

On March 07 2012 23:14 Linwelin wrote:
Are we going to have "stephano ladder runs" threads every single season?
We all know he's a very good player, probably the best foreigner but come on

On March 07 2012 23:12 setzer wrote:
Wow another thread discussing Stephano's compeletely meaningless ladder results. Does it still actually surprise people he is the best non-Korean?

On March 07 2012 23:44 Cortza wrote:




Haters gonna hate?

On March 07 2012 21:19 Nizzy wrote:


Stephano is top 3 without a doubt, but guaranteed the best? Morrow is insanely impressive for a dual racer. HuK might be the best PvP in the world. He beat like 4 korean protoss players in the last MLG arena. Naniwa beats a ton of top Koreans consistently as well.

On March 07 2012 18:51 LimitSEA wrote:
I don't know if this is actually MVP, but: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp

Ladder runs aren't really that impressive anywhere but on Korea.

On March 07 2012 18:51 LimitSEA wrote:
I don't know if this is actually MVP, but: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp

Ladder runs aren't really that impressive anywhere but on Korea.

On March 07 2012 23:44 Cortza wrote:




Haters gonna hate?

On March 07 2012 18:40 mememolly wrote:


he got like 70% win rate and was top 10 GM inside a few days

On March 07 2012 18:37 ThatGuy89 wrote:
our opinion is to stop threads like this being made -_-
when the last one was made, it was made clear that it wasnt worth a thread.

yea the guys an absolute beast, but if MMA or MVP or someone laddered on EU they'd probably do the same.
This can be posted in his fan club or something, or even the old stephano ladder run thread

On March 08 2012 00:03 WigglingSquid wrote:

NSHS.Seal had an 80% win rate in top 20 GM some time ago, but I don't see threads being spawned about it.
Can't this be included in Stephano's fanclub rather than bothering everyone with these kind of empty OP-threads?

On March 07 2012 23:51 worked13 wrote:


Isn't ladder one of his primary methods of practising? 'Meaningless' is a pretty strong word.

On March 08 2012 00:21 hunts wrote:


No, most pros almost never ladder. Once people actually get good they stop laddering and practice in custom games vs other good players. Ladder, and especially ladder while streaming is not good practice at all. Most of your games will be vs random bads (because of capped MMR) who will just do random bad cheese/all in or vs people trying to stream cheat or stream snipe you.

On March 07 2012 18:37 zefreak wrote:
Considering that people like Nerchio, Bratok and Bly have reasonably similar winrates, I would have to conclude that EU ladder is really not that tough? I don't actually know, and I don't mean to downplay any of their accomplishments, but it doesn't look like Stephano's run is much more impressive than any of the guys I mentioned, and while they are top EU players they aren't really top in the world.

On March 08 2012 00:09 The_Darkness wrote:
His run is freaking amazing notwithstanding the fact that the KR ladder is a lot tougher and being the best on the ladder doesn't mean you'll be awarded a GSL trophy.
To clarify a few things:

1. Ladder play does seem to reasonably well correlate with objective measures of skill, such as Elo -- 3 of the 5 nonKorean players in the top 5 in terms of Elo scores have the highest win rates, or near the highest win rates, on the EU server.
2. Ladder play does not correlate well, however, with the opinions of angry nerds.
3. Ladder play I would guess best predicts results in tournaments where you don't have time to study your opponent in depth -- which is most tournaments outside the GSL. Playing on ladder is sort of like site reading a concerto whereas playing in GSL is like preparing a few months out for your Carnegie Hall debut; it's possible that the person playing at Carnegie Hall (e.g., Nestea) is not as good as someone who's a great site reader (e.g., Stephano) when he has more limited time to learn the piece he has to play.
4. I have a strong hunch that not a single person detracting from Stephano's ladder run or shitting on it as meaningless will ever accomplish anything as impressive in his entire life, but I have no way of verifying this so it's just a hunch.


Edit: Edited 1. to say 3 of the 5 nonKorean players "in the top 5 in terms of Elo scores".

On March 08 2012 00:49 Archvil3 wrote:
One of Stephanos most brilliant aspects of his game is that he plays a style where he doesnt loose to inferior players.

Too many pros plays styles that are too volatile so they occasionaly lose to players they shouldnt. Playing a style that ensures a victory pretty much all of the time against lesser opponents is very important if you want to be a consistant top player and Stephano is one of the best in that regard. Oh yea and he is not just consistant, he is pretty damn good as well!

On March 08 2012 00:30 Acritter wrote:
Lost at Team Monobattles...? Must have randomed Overlords or something.

Seriously, I think that Stephano would be close to the level of Flash if he offered a similar amount of dedication. There's some stuff in his play that can't really be copied. Remember what the BW players say? That there are some builds that only Flash can do because he's Flash? The same thing applies here.

On March 08 2012 01:00 Zeon0 wrote:
Stephano is very good, but plz dont compare him to Flash ffs

he lost convincingly to Polt, so Polt must be some uber Flash? dont be ridiculous...

On March 08 2012 01:02 radiantshadow92 wrote:
I wonder how he would do in korea, Impressive either way. In the end tho, ladder doesnt matter

On March 07 2012 18:51 LimitSEA wrote:
I don't know if this is actually MVP, but: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp

Ladder runs aren't really that impressive anywhere but on Korea.

On March 07 2012 18:37 zefreak wrote:
Considering that people like Nerchio, Bratok and Bly have reasonably similar winrates, I would have to conclude that EU ladder is really not that tough? I don't actually know, and I don't mean to downplay any of their accomplishments, but it doesn't look like Stephano's run is much more impressive than any of the guys I mentioned, and while they are top EU players they aren't really top in the world.

On March 07 2012 21:05 shadymmj wrote:
with an unbelievable 97.83% winrate and a record of 45-1,

http://sc2ranks.com/sea/253896/TiGerSPR

is the best GM player ever.

On March 08 2012 01:08 XRaDiiX wrote:


Really trying to take away his from his ladderun? winning above 90% on NA,EU is actually pretty damn good.

Stephano has proven in Tournaments he is easily a Code S level player.

On March 08 2012 01:39 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
I watch his stream and I would be very interested in knowing how he would do on the korean ladder, where cheese is much more common. Europeans seem to be much more focused on macro oriented play which is nice but it makes it difficult for cross server comparison.

On March 08 2012 01:17 hunts wrote:


Really? Because I remember a time when Idra was over 90% win rate on NA ladder before the MMR cap made it easy to do so, and with many more games than stephano and people still called him bad. And really there isn't much to take away from stephanos run here because it's just that, ladder. If you really want to praise him, bring up his tournament runnings. Maybe his blizzard cup run or something?

On March 07 2012 18:43 USvBleakill wrote:
Losing a monobattle... he should really quit sc2 with such bad results.

113 to 12 is a impressive run no matter how bad or good EU ladder is. btw who is kingler? some korean protoss smurf?

On March 08 2012 01:53 Benjamin80 wrote:


Or his IPL 3 victory, ESWC victory. 2nd place Assemply, 3rd place Assemply. IPL 4 UK qualifier. eOSL Winter 2012, winning 90% of all online tournaments atm 72% on the korean GM ladder rank 7. And a partridge in a pear tree

This good enough for you?

I get it man, but if you dont like the kid just say it out loud, no need to hide it!

On March 07 2012 20:25 Mesha wrote:
If Stephano could get to practice with at least one or more great Korean Top player for each race, instead of ladder, i am not sure what the hell next level of his play would be? Best player ever??
He is trully SC2 monster. It looks soo fucking easy when he plays. His play is almost perfect...

On March 08 2012 02:01 hunts wrote:


But you do realize most of the tournaments he did well in were at the same time as bigger and better tournaments, which means they had very little competition, right? Like Asus rog, when almost every good player was at MLG winter arena?

On March 08 2012 02:03 chosenkerrigan wrote:


He would certainly be the next bonjwa. No doubt.

On March 07 2012 18:38 ZenithM wrote:
BUT HE LOST A FUCKING MONOBATTLE, WHAT A NAB

On March 07 2012 19:20 mnck wrote:
MMR cap causes this... My friend who is high masters is matched with teams even against Stephano. If you're teams even with number 1 GM while you're maybe only number 100 in masters in EU, then something with the ladder seems flawed by design in my eyes. Basically anyone in high masters and grandmasters are MMR capped to the point where they are slightly favored against each other.

It's a silly system that makes ladder bad for players of Stephano's caliber... He was even saying in his own stream chat that it was really boring to play ladder when he could beat everyone he met with little effort. Fast teching to hive while completely annihilating funkay with only lings. – Just to give an example of what happened on his stream yesterday.

Blizzard need to reconsider having a MMR cap on the ladder. It really seems to have a bad influence on the ladder in the very top. If you're grandmasters or near the top of masters, then you will most likely face Stephano on the ladder, and he will beat you. It's not matching skill anymore at this point.

TLDR; MMR cap means Stephano is playing terrible players who are also MMR capped.

On March 08 2012 02:04 Velr wrote:


Wasn't MLG Winter Arena that tourney where nearly every good EU foreigner was at Asus Rog?

On March 08 2012 02:01 hunts wrote:


But you do realize most of the tournaments he did well in were at the same time as bigger and better tournaments, which means they had very little competition, right? Like Asus rog, when almost every good player was at MLG winter arena?

On March 08 2012 00:30 Acritter wrote:
Lost at Team Monobattles...? Must have randomed Overlords or something.

Seriously, I think that Stephano would be close to the level of Flash if he offered a similar amount of dedication. There's some stuff in his play that can't really be copied. Remember what the BW players say? That there are some builds that only Flash can do because he's Flash? The same thing applies here.

On March 08 2012 02:12 Benjamin80 wrote:


Yea only the best foreigners was there except Naniwa together with Puma and Polt andLucky . Just becuase you are overhyped and played in MLG winter arena doesnt mean you better.

And most of the tournaments really ?

IPL 3, ESWC and IPL 4 UK qualifier did you see the player list?

Man now you just finding bad excuses and hating come on bro

All the best foreigner players was in Asus only one who was missing was Naniwa im sorry to tell you that

On March 08 2012 02:16 hunts wrote:


You're definitely right man. Puma and Polt definitely better than overhyped baddies like MKP and MVP. Lucky definnitely better than overhyped baddies like DRG and nestea. And no I don't have bad excuses for disliking stephano. I dislike him because of his fans that overhype him when he's just another good foreigner. He's good, just that. He's not the best foreigner, and definitely not the best zerg foreigner, or best zerg, or best player like people seem to think, If you want to blindly overhype him go to his fan club.

and to

You forgot the other foreigners like Idra and huk, who are better than basically every other foreigner that was at asus rog.

On March 08 2012 02:16 hunts wrote:


You're definitely right man. Puma and Polt definitely better than overhyped baddies like MKP and MVP. Lucky definnitely better than overhyped baddies like DRG and nestea. And no I don't have bad excuses for disliking stephano. I dislike him because of his fans that overhype him when he's just another good foreigner. He's good, just that. He's not the best foreigner, and definitely not the best zerg foreigner, or best zerg, or best player like people seem to think, If you want to blindly overhype him go to his fan club.

On March 08 2012 02:16 hunts wrote:


You're definitely right man. Puma and Polt definitely better than overhyped baddies like MKP and MVP. Lucky definnitely better than overhyped baddies like DRG and nestea. And no I don't have bad excuses for disliking stephano. I dislike him because of his fans that overhype him when he's just another good foreigner. He's good, just that. He's not the best foreigner, and definitely not the best zerg foreigner, or best zerg, or best player like people seem to think, If you want to blindly overhype him go to his fan club.

and to

You forgot the other foreigners like Idra and huk, who are better than basically every other foreigner that was at asus rog.

On March 08 2012 02:20 Agathon wrote:


Who's the best foreigner then? And the best foreign zerg?

It's seems that you are blindly overhyping some guys too, specially zergs, exactly what you dislike from a small part of Stephano's fans.

On March 08 2012 02:19 HyDrA_solic wrote:


so who's the best foreigner for you, may I ask?

He's not the best foreigner, and definitely not the best zerg foreigner, or best zerg

On March 08 2012 02:22 hunts wrote:


There isn't one right now. Every top foreigner has their moments of brilliance and moments of just getting owned, so far no foreigner has consistently done well enough vs other foreigners or koreans to be considered "top foreigner"

On March 08 2012 02:22 hunts wrote:


There isn't one right now. Every top foreigner has their moments of brilliance and moments of just getting owned, so far no foreigner has consistently done well enough vs other foreigners or koreans to be considered "top foreigner"

On March 08 2012 02:22 hunts wrote:


There isn't one right now. Every top foreigner has their moments of brilliance and moments of just getting owned, so far no foreigner has consistently done well enough vs other foreigners or koreans to be considered "top foreigner"

And to other guy, no major is nowhere near the list of top foreigners. Also you forgot to add huk, idra, select, thorzain, ret, select. And I will say Idra is definitely better than stephano. Idra just has too many fanboys and anti-fanboys that makes it hard to take anything about him serious at times.

On March 08 2012 02:22 hunts wrote:


There isn't one right now. Every top foreigner has their moments of brilliance and moments of just getting owned, so far no foreigner has consistently done well enough vs other foreigners or koreans to be considered "top foreigner"

And to other guy, no major is nowhere near the list of top foreigners. Also you forgot to add huk, idra, select, thorzain, ret, select. And I will say Idra is definitely better than stephano. Idra just has too many fanboys and anti-fanboys that makes it hard to take anything about him serious at times.

On March 08 2012 02:25 Benjamin80 wrote:


haha so what do you have todo to be consistently doing well? I really want to know becuase if it isnt enough what Stephano has done the last 6months then im not sure.

The kid wins allmost everything

On March 08 2012 02:13 Thurken wrote:
You should stop make threads like that...
The last one was enough.

On March 08 2012 01:57 The_Darkness wrote:


4. Stephano is getting these results because of the skill cap on MMR. False and idiotic. There are only a handful of players with MMRs comparable to Stephano; unless they happen to be searching for a game at the time Stephano plays, they obviously will not be matched with him and so by necessity he ends up playing some masters level players and lower ranked GMs. The same thing would happen if they removed the skill cap.

On March 08 2012 02:27 hunts wrote:


Again, he wins in the underdog tournaments. If he can win an MLG with actual good koreans there, or if he can even qualify for code A in GSL, or win any tournaments with more than just a couple koreans in it, then he can be considered a top foreigner.

On March 08 2012 02:27 hunts wrote:


Again, he wins in the underdog tournaments. If he can win an MLG with actual good koreans there, or if he can even qualify for code A in GSL, or win any tournaments with more than just a couple koreans in it, then he can be considered a top foreigner.

On March 08 2012 02:29 Kznn wrote:



?
can we please be able to enjoy a great ladder run from a great player?
I don't see why he should stoping making threads like this oO

On March 08 2012 02:27 hunts wrote:


Again, he wins in the underdog tournaments. If he can win an MLG with actual good koreans there, or if he can even qualify for code A in GSL, or win any tournaments with more than just a couple koreans in it, then he can be considered a top foreigner.

On March 08 2012 02:34 revel8 wrote:


Ret just gave an interview this week in which he said that Stephano was the best in Europe - ie better than himself. Is he talking nonsense too? Surely Ret is well-placed to make such a judgement call. Maybe you should contact the writers of that Interview and tell them Ret does not know what he is talking about.

How come JP did not invite you on State of the Game, to tell Nestea he was full of nonsense, when Nestea stated straight out that the best Foreigner was Stephano? Must have been an oversight on JP's part. Also somewhat strange that JP, Catz, InControl and NoNy did not even challenge or react with surprise at Nestea's statement about Stephano. No doubt you would have told them the truth about how things actually are! LOL

JP you need to get this Hunts fellow on State of the Game instead of know-nothings like Nestea! LOL

On March 08 2012 02:36 HyDrA_solic wrote:


show me that please :D i missed that SOTG

On March 08 2012 02:46 BlueBoxSC wrote:
Man, I almost hate to see Stephano outperforming IdrA in every regard like this. It's just depressing, not because I wish the worse for Stephano, but because IdrA was the guy who 'got' me into SC2 competitive scene, and I loved watching him, thinking, this is why I play Zerg.

Now I look up to the "I am le tired". Granted, Stephano is amazing, and he deserves every accolade he gets. I just wish other NA Zergs would catch up.

On March 07 2012 18:37 Tump wrote:
Talented former Warcraft 3 player with lots of dedication and skill and time to practice. His practice methods work, foreigners should use him as an example to improve.

Also, EU>NA not necessarily true, especially at the very top level that Stephano plays at. Many Koreans fill the high GM League on NA. So once you get to that level (where Stephano plays at) than NA is probably harder. Obviously below that is much more European favored.

On March 07 2012 18:51 LimitSEA wrote:
I don't know if this is actually MVP, but: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp

Ladder runs aren't really that impressive anywhere but on Korea.

On March 08 2012 02:27 hunts wrote:


Again, he wins in the underdog tournaments. If he can win an MLG with actual good koreans there, or if he can even qualify for code A in GSL, or win any tournaments with more than just a couple koreans in it, then he can be considered a top foreigner.

On March 08 2012 02:29 Kira__ wrote:


Explain to me how a scrubby masters player as myself can get matched against White-Ra, HuK and other top10 GM players if not for the mmr cap? I should never be allowed to play these guys, it's a free win for them 99% of the time. I never played these kind of people before the mmr cap.

On March 08 2012 03:15 The_Darkness wrote:


IPL 3 had MMA, MKP and a slew of other top Koreans. It is a "grand slam" event for the Starcraft (with far more money at stake than MLGs had at the time) and he won it. Try again, or better yet don't. (I will say that you're doing a good job trolling the forum.)

On March 07 2012 18:51 LimitSEA wrote:
I don't know if this is actually MVP, but: http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2689988/IMMvp

Ladder runs aren't really that impressive anywhere but on Korea.

On March 08 2012 03:09 BronzeKnee wrote:


Well said. I want to see how Stephano does on KR.

And with a 224-19 record, I'm pretty sure that the is real MVP.

On March 08 2012 03:18 hunts wrote:


People these days really have no clue what the word troll even means. Just because you disagree with someone does not automatically make them a troll, try and understand that will you? And grats, he was in 1 tournament with 2 top koreans. He has still never done well in an MLG which has far more than just 2 top koreans almost every time.

On March 08 2012 03:25 Mystgun wrote:
I have always believed that dominating ladder performance highlights a player's mechanical skills. Stephano is an extremely polished players and his builds are like clockwork which is always fun to see. Tournaments require a lot more preparation and analysis on your enemy to craft a winning strategy. SlayerS as a team is quite good at doing this and MMA executes these strategies pretty well!

On March 08 2012 03:15 The_Darkness wrote:


IPL 3 had MMA, MKP and a slew of other top Koreans. It is a "grand slam" event for the Starcraft (with far more money at stake than MLGs had at the time) and he won it. Try again, or better yet don't. (I will say that you're doing a good job trolling the forum.)

On March 07 2012 21:05 shadymmj wrote:
with an unbelievable 97.83% winrate and a record of 45-1,

http://sc2ranks.com/sea/253896/TiGerSPR

is the best GM player ever.

On March 08 2012 03:17 The_Darkness wrote:


I already did. If Stephano was matched only against people with similar MMRs he'd be queueing 1/2 an hour per match. That's why he played you and that's why removing the skill cap doesn't matter.

On March 08 2012 03:17 The_Darkness wrote:


I already did. If Stephano was matched only against people with similar MMRs he'd be queueing 1/2 an hour per match. That's why he played you and that's why removing the skill cap doesn't matter.

On March 07 2012 18:37 Tump wrote:
Talented former Warcraft 3 player with lots of dedication and skill and time to practice. His practice methods work, foreigners should use him as an example to improve.

Also, EU>NA not necessarily true, especially at the very top level that Stephano plays at. Many Koreans fill the high GM League on NA. So once you get to that level (where Stephano plays at) than NA is probably harder. Obviously below that is much more European favored.

On March 08 2012 03:47 Corsica wrote:


lol you think koreans dont play in EU? On NA Koreans only troll local people xDDDD

On March 08 2012 03:09 BronzeKnee wrote:


Well said. I want to see how Stephano does on KR.

And with a 224-19 record, I'm pretty sure that the is real MVP.

On March 08 2012 03:09 BronzeKnee wrote:


Well said. I want to see how Stephano does on KR.

And with a 224-19 record, I'm pretty sure that the is real MVP.

On March 08 2012 03:50 Mohdoo wrote:
When you're better than every single other person on the server by the margin that Stephano is, not too surprising. I really wish he'd man up and stay in Korea longer. He's completely outgrown the EU server.

On March 08 2012 04:09 dsousa wrote:
He is the most amazing player in SC2.... he plays the best music on his stream..... and as a zerg fan he is pure win.

Stephano is the best viewing experience since Seinfeld went off TV.

He could be the best player in the world..... I guess that scares people who are in BW/KR community, because he's so different.

What would it mean to the KR scene if a French WC3 player became the Bonjwa..... it hasn't happened yet... but if you've seen Stephano play enough, you know that he has that potential in him. Certainly more than any other foreign player in Starcraft history.