EPTKennigit talks eSports - Page 2
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sanctuz
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SmoKim
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StarStruck
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*** As for associations. It could work. I understand each organization has their own goals and brand to sell. They see themselves as competitors; however, they are in the same bed. They could benefit from holding a summit at the end of this season before laying out any plans for the next. There can be an official Pro Circuit where each organizer plays host under one standardized format (doesn't mean one-offs like TSL cannot still take place). I honestly would like to see all the major players get together for a planning session at the end of their season. I think it's important to start these discussions by the end of the year. KeSPA is already prepping themselves. You want to be ready. *** "Voting with our wallets." Yes, polls are incredibly inaccurate. However, the pity card still came into play. We're told to pay regardless and send feedback to MLG to let them know, "Hey, we'll pay for it this time but have your shit together for the next one." In other words, people were told to pay out of sympathy or to support esports anyway when they don't necessarily agree with the product. Sort of the opposite way of doing things because they still got your money and that speaks for itself. ** As for the interview Jojo, There's one topic you missed: the TSL. James is one of the guys who brings the TSL to life. I would say it's one of his crowning achievements as he has a big role in organizing it. You covered a lot of content. It's funny because that would be my only criticism: I would have liked to see you come in with a pointed topic or put more focus on certain issues instead of just scratching the surface. Great job though; keep up the good work. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On March 07 2012 07:06 Hyperionnn wrote: this is how kennigit got hooked into tl http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=45486 ha as in, chill out. as in calm down. | ||
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StarStruck
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Sometimes your questions are very long-winded and the guests can easily get lost in thought. To try and limit this you can break the questions down into 2/3 parts. (Your bullet points get right to the point  )It comes down to tact. For instance in your Neil Kaplan interview you asked him what you were doing wrong? (context: when speaking into the mike). Very difficult thing to do when he's not physically there as he said. I would have taken another approach. For example, I would ask him if he ever caught a live cast and his thoughts (he's been to conventions, he's watched Starcraft at Blizzcon). From there I would get to the meat of the topic. Lot's of casters have problems with maintaining their voices over 2-4 days of casting. Whether it be falling sick or losing their voices. What are some of the things you like to do for maintenance? | ||
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Yamulo
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JOJOsc2news
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On March 07 2012 08:44 StarStruck wrote: Okay, time for some back talk. + Show Spoiler + *** As for associations. It could work. I understand each organization has their own goals and brand to sell. They see themselves as competitors; however, they are in the same bed. They could benefit from holding a summit at the end of this season before laying out any plans for the next. There can be an official Pro Circuit where each organizer plays host under one standardized format (doesn't mean one-offs like TSL cannot still take place). I honestly would like to see all the major players get together for a planning session at the end of their season. I think it's important to start these discussions by the end of the year. KeSPA is already prepping themselves. You want to be ready. *** "Voting with our wallets." Yes, polls are incredibly inaccurate. However, the pity card still came into play. We're told to pay regardless and send feedback to MLG to let them know, "Hey, we'll pay for it this time but have your shit together for the next one." In other words, people were told to pay out of sympathy or to support esports anyway when they don't necessarily agree with the product. Sort of the opposite way of doing things because they still got your money and that speaks for itself. ** As for the interview Jojo, There's one topic you missed: the TSL. James is one of the guys who brings the TSL to life. I would say it's one of his crowning achievements as he has a big role in organizing it. You covered a lot of content. It's funny because that would be my only criticism: I would have liked to see you come in with a pointed topic or put more focus on certain issues instead of just scratching the surface. Great job though; keep up the good work. Thank you StarStruck for your detailed reply!
I agree with your first point but I don't think I have enough insight into the business to be able to actually determine whether or not an association like that could work at the current moment. The idea of a general, standardized format, Pro-Circuit and especially broad communication looks like an extremely valuable suggestion though.
Your reply actually reminded me of what a friend of mine said about this: "It is a way to see what people put up with not with what they want." I am a bit of an idealist in that regard. I like to believe my voice and input goes beyond the green in my wallet. I do realize that there is little place for that in the harsh business environment but that doesn't mean I necessarily agree with it or think it is a status quo that should not be challenged. On the other hand I agree that we are in a climate where generally people assume that they won't have to pay for creative content (I am as guilty as most of this generation) That's not right either. I, personally, am not a fan of the PPV model at all but I am open to experimenting in all directions with making eSports sustainable. The pity card you mentioned was actually a perspective I had not considered yet. That is actually quite a cunning analysis of the methods used to introduce this format. I remember the heated debates about giving it a try to see if it works and how doing one thing or the other was either saving or ruining eSports. Kennigit touched upon that I think when he said that in no other sport you can actually get in contact with the executives in the way it is possible in the eSports scene. That means that there is a certain degree of openness and feeling of responsibility to the opinion of the community (rather than just voting by wallet) but (as you pointed out) it is also a means to open up the wallet and encourage support from the community for a product that they don't necessarily support. I think the transition period we are in right now is extremely interesting for both the community as well as the executives and sponsors. I think there is a huge responsibility on both sides to be cautious and at many points on this way I think all of us need to ask ourselves if we are actually looking for personal gain (companies [economic], as well as community members [enjoying StarCraft content]) that is sustainable and allows growth or are we simply trying to rack up as much as we can. That turned out longer than intended.
I know he'd mentioned it during the interview but I was simply not aware of the extent of the involvement and apparently my spider senses weren't tingling to pick it up. That is a well deserved criticism and I will take it to heart. This goes along with your last comment about the variety of topics discussed and staying on the surface. Both points fall under the same kind of issue for me: I think I got carried away with the inclusion of questions submitted by viewers just ahead of or live during the interview. While I strongly believe that this format makes for a very productive and honest interaction between interviewer, interviewee and audience, I did realize that I lost my train of thought over that. This is something I will think about and work on for upcoming interviews as I, too, believe that opportunities to dig deeper can be missed that way. I don't think this show will ever be straight up, perfectly planned and through and through polished. I like the intimate atmosphere of a casual conversation and the fact that live submitted questions add randomness and different perspectives that often trigger very interesting dialogues (like "April is coming" or "Why is Teamliquid always out of shirts"). I have to give props to Kennigit in that regard too. He was really able to leave a topic and quickly incorporate these questions. I think that made for spontaneous and insightful answers. Once again, thank you for dedicating so much time and effort to respond to this interview. Feedback like that is not only critical for improving, it is also quite reassuring. | ||
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JOJOsc2news
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On March 07 2012 07:06 Hyperionnn wrote: this is how kennigit got hooked into tl http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=45486 Wow, this is gold. There should be a directory for 'legendary threads' | ||
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StarStruck
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Yeah, you never know where the conversation is going to go. That's the fun part. Speaking of which, that is the one thing I would like to challenge every interviewer to do: make the process as fun as possible. Thought provoking is good too: Yes, James. April is coming. So is TSL 4. EDIT: (April Fool's is going to be fun!) You spoke about honest interaction. This goes back to your style as a host. Got to stick to your guns and what works for you. In short: - ask questions during the early stages of your prep - have fun - style: stick to what comes natural for you | ||
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Kuror
United States399 Posts
You and that kid who did the overlays really make me want to help the community more... until I realize I have no talent :x | ||
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Hyperionnn
Turkey4968 Posts
On March 07 2012 08:52 turdburgler wrote: ha as in, chill out. as in calm down. Yeah, was sleepy last night and I simply forgot to put a comma there | ||
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0kz
Italy1118 Posts
edit: On March 07 2012 07:06 Hyperionnn wrote: this is how kennigit got hooked into tl http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=45486 ahaha epic thread | ||
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Silidons
United States2813 Posts
On March 07 2012 07:06 Hyperionnn wrote: this is how kennigit got hooked into tl http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=45486 funny how this is how he got really into TL, but now this type of thread would be insta-closed with trolling like that | ||
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JOJOsc2news
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On March 07 2012 13:32 Kuror wrote: These interviews are really great. Interesting choice of people, rather than the pros that we can see a million of a day. I also love the timestamps. Everything is just really well done. Great job. You and that kid who did the overlays really make me want to help the community more... until I realize I have no talent :x Thanks a lot for your kind words. And yeah, what InsidiA is doing is really cool! | ||
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Azza1109
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Adventurekid
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JOJOsc2news
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On March 07 2012 08:42 SmoKim wrote: Most well made OP i have seen. Imagine if this was the norm when posting a interview. Thanks for doing this Very much appreciated! | ||
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Boundz(DarKo)
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JOJOsc2news
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On March 08 2012 02:07 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: Very nice indeed. Read through the transcript and now continuing with the video. Thanks The thread is more of an outline rather than a full transcript. The quotes are merely excerpts from the answers. The full answers are even more insightful and offer a lot more context. Let me know what you thought of it after. Jojo | ||
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Niklas9999
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