EPTSo while it may be true that a live SC2 tourney may not get astronomical attendance as compared to other events, the power of replays going forward is pretty huge.
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kleydejong
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So while it may be true that a live SC2 tourney may not get astronomical attendance as compared to other events, the power of replays going forward is pretty huge. | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
On March 06 2012 05:22 kleydejong wrote: One thing that I find incredibly appealing about SC2 compared to other sports is its accessibility. You can hop online at any time and watch some pro stream. You can watch tons of new casts uploaded to YouTube daily. You can also choose to tune in for a scheduled event like any traditional sporting event. So while it may be true that a live SC2 tourney may not get astronomical attendance as compared to other events, the power of replays going forward is pretty huge. I agree with you on that one. Even though it does not seem as if the SC2 eSport community is getting larger, the community that exists already is surely here to stay. Casters like TotalBiscuit and Husky keep the game alive with their fantastic videos which are put up on YouTube and other sites like Twitch.tv. A breakthrough in the size of the scene is inevitable. I mean, just look at how many subscribers people like Husky have on YouTube. It is a humongous number, nothing to just ignore. Most of those people avidly watching those type of casts are more likely than not casual viewers. All we need is for them to become passionate about the game and spread the SC2 love :D | ||
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serum321
United States606 Posts
On March 06 2012 02:55 theniceninja wrote: I live in the midwest U. S. I don't know what the mindset problem is but when I try to get my friends to check out Sc2 esports its like I'm telling them to pour acid on their face because it's so absurd to watch other people play video games for money. I too thought it was fairly absurd and the only reason I started watching pros was to try to get better at SC2. Now, a year later, I see it as one of my biggest hobbies and most enjoyable pastimes. I've realized, the thing that is so engaging is watching the players rise and fall, their personalities, their playstyles. I mean, why is Idra so popular? Obviously, he is good and quite consistent, but he has a personality that prevails. If somehow more of the general public can be introduced to some of these players it could bring alot more attention from people who may not even play SC2, but just like video games and smart people. Some of these guys have superstar talent along with superstar personalities. Not to mention dashing good looks (ei. HerO, Dimaga, Nada, TLO, etc.) Someone needs to produce a reality-type show. low-budget, with some caster personalities and maybe an 8 man invitational with all the players there, so it would be practically a live event. Of course it could be streamed on the net but get it to air on some cable station or something. People need to appreciate the level of intelligence these guys operate on. Not only in game but in their training for matches. I'm afraid most Americans would rather watch meat heads clobber each other than watch two nerds face off in a battle of competency and wits. But I think there is a large market out there that hasn't been tapped yet, just because there isn't much publicity outside of the Esports sector of the internet. I hope IPL 4 is a huge success because I think IGN is the best candidate to do something like this. You are so right in saying its the personalities that are engaging. I watched the MLG Winter Arena and expected my wife to be bored out of her mind, but she really got involved with the players. A friend of mine also brought up an interesting point in that SC2/esports players don't use their real names. From an outsider's point of view it is difficult to take anyone/thing seriously if you're not even going to use your real name. The other point you bring up about a show I believe could be a huge hit. My wife has long since said a tv show with a group of players living in one house would make a great show. We played EQ2 at the time so she talked about having a raid living together in one house and all the drama that would ensue bringing in tons of viewers. They could do a tv show of a particular team's house or even multiple team's houses so people could get attached to the players and all the competition. | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
On March 06 2012 05:37 serum321 wrote: You are so right in saying its the personalities that are engaging. I watched the MLG Winter Arena and expected my wife to be bored out of her mind, but she really got involved with the players. A friend of mine also brought up an interesting point in that SC2/esports players don't use their real names. From an outsider's point of view it is difficult to take anyone/thing seriously if you're not even going to use your real name. The other point you bring up about a show I believe could be a huge hit. My wife has long since said a tv show with a group of players living in one house would make a great show. We played EQ2 at the time so she talked about having a raid living together in one house and all the drama that would ensue bringing in tons of viewers. They could do a tv show of a particular team's house or even multiple team's houses so people could get attached to the players and all the competition. Now that I like. The true spark for the SC2 scene to boom will come as soon as a documentary about eSports (especially about SC2) or a reality show airs on TV. That will certainly gain a lot of attention, and hopefully change many people's minds about what eSports really is. It is in fact also the personalities that attract me the most to the community. People like IdrA, HuK, HerO, MC etc. and all the great casters make it all worth it. EDIT - I am aware that there have been documentaries about Broodwar professionals in Korea before on National Geographic, but that wasn't sufficient. The SC2 scene is a lot more relatable to many people in the world because the foreign scene is much larger than it ever was with Broodwar. | ||
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Zketch
Sweden34 Posts
When people get introduced early in age to "hard" games like sc2 or maybe CS instead of COD then we take a step closer to the attention that sports get. But when gaming is mostly focused around casual games, (i can relate to COD thats why picked that) the gamers wont get enough amount of respect for their work required to expand the viewer base. Games like sc2 is, i believe, too small to be advertised through its players(not just pros). And since the media attention is too low its hard to get around that. LoL is a free and relatively casual game that doesn't require that much from the player (from my experience) and thats probably why its so popular. Just like COD. But because of that, the average person won't "admire" the players skill. When the society accepts games as an equal matter activity as football, then, it can be huge. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
i can't help but think sc2 will not last long if korea doesn't pick it up, but i dont know why. i'm skeptical of sc2 lasting a decade like bw. | ||
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
On March 06 2012 03:39 Wildmoon wrote: High viewer count for LoL but tournament organizers don't invest in it as much as Starcraft. I wonder what's wrong with LoL. Well, most directly, LoL is part of a split pool - DotA, DotA 2, and (very minorly) HoN all subtract potential playerbase and tournament demand from it. As ~*The Top Tier RTS Delivered By God*~, SC2's only minor competition internationally is WC3, since BW has no meaningful presence outside of South Korea and Cuba. If WC3 still had millions of active worldwide players, SC2 would have had a far harder time setting up, even with the fact that Blizzard has the upper hand in running both games. Saying that LoL's growth and viewers are "fake" just because you don't like the game is petty as all hell, and severely undermines the fact that it became a popular game despite DotA being prevalent at its launch. | ||
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