EPTHow did you watch MLG? - Page 9
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bobsire
Canada296 Posts
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Almonjin
35 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:12 Toppp wrote: It's kind of funny reading your posts. They're actually so agressive and uninformed that I can't tell if you're a troll or just completely ignorant on what your ranting about. I feel the same way. Do you have an argument or are you just offended? | ||
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Code:Closer
Germany5 Posts
However I have to say I would have never payed 20$ for the content they offered. First of all it is way to much money for only 2 days worth of content. If I had to pay 20$ for a season pass that would include like 3 or 4 of those events OK but just for one it is way too much. Also this event did not have the same feel of last years events with a big crowd and everything. It felt kinda cheap. I also do now understand why MLG payed for all the teams to send their players to the tournament , they did not do for last years event did they ? So why start with it this time ? Because of the smaller price pool ? or the overall smaller tournament size ( compared to previous mlg events ) I mean if they had taken the money that they used to get all the people to the event and had instead put it into the price pool the probably would have had enough money left for a free 360p or 480p stream. I don't know how hard a decision it would have been for the Korean teams to send their players to this event without a bigger price pool but it was not a problem in the past was it. Sure the price pool was bigger if you take the money they spent on getting the players there they probably could have cooked up an interesting enough price pool that would have attracted enough Korean player | ||
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cptDINOSAUR
United Kingdom5 Posts
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:59 imperator-xy wrote: the guy below you pretty much sums up my opinion. why should ESL's model be bad? ESL is the biggest esports league (overall) for several years now. they may be having hard times now, but im pretty sure thats just because they messed up with IEM at the beginning. the way MLG works right now it isnt quite international as well. games are played at american times and to watch them you would need to pay american prizes (that prize wouldnt be imaginable in europe). There are a ton of events that continue to be free - that's what the guy below me was talking about, right? - and there will continue to be free content no matter what. The amount of content out there is such that one PPV tournament, or even an entire PPV league, is just a drop in the bucket. As for ESL, they've definitely done good things. They're a successful story so far, but only to a point. There are lots of problems as well. More to the point of this particular event, what MLG is trying to accomplish is something ESL hasn't done yet. They're trying to generate enough revenue that they can fully pay the expenses of all the players at their event. That's a massive leap beyond. As for your problems with MLG's timezones... They're an American organization that puts on tournaments in the United States. That's not really going to change, and it's a universal problem. Assembly wasn't easy for me to watch. GSL isn't easy for me to watch. They're still international in scale and scope. Hell, Champions League games are played during the American workday. It's a function of there only being so many hours in a day. | ||
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
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Gourmand
Canada101 Posts
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FlyingToilet
United States840 Posts
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noD
2230 Posts
I feel good for that even tho i think it's too much money xD | ||
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MuseMike
United States1339 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:16 LuckoftheIrish wrote: There are a ton of events that continue to be free - that's what the guy below me was talking about, right? - and there will continue to be free content no matter what. The amount of content out there is such that one PPV tournament, or even an entire PPV league, is just a drop in the bucket. As for ESL, they've definitely done good things. They're a successful story so far, but only to a point. There are lots of problems as well. More to the point of this particular event, what MLG is trying to accomplish is something ESL hasn't done yet. They're trying to generate enough revenue that they can fully pay the expenses of all the players at their event. That's a massive leap beyond. As for your problems with MLG's timezones... They're an American organization that puts on tournaments in the United States. That's not really going to change, and it's a universal problem. Assembly wasn't easy for me to watch. GSL isn't easy for me to watch. They're still international in scale and scope. Hell, Champions League games are played during the American workday. It's a function of there only being so many hours in a day. MLG seems like it is trying to create an actual unified league. Something we only see in GSL due to the small size of Korea. This is a goal I am willing to help pay for and support. | ||
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OneOddOrange
Canada215 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:15 MajorityofOne wrote: Yeah that's fine if you don't want to pay don't I didn't but don't steal their product...You do have to pay for some things, but there is a near-infinite amount of free SC2 content available. MLG will never be able to compete with "free". It's like if somebody tried to open a version of Facebook that required you pay a monthly fee. I don't feel entitled to free Starcraft, but I'm not going to pay so long as it exists unless the step up in quality is exceptional. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
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esotericc
449 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:18 OneOddOrange wrote: Yeah that's fine if you don't want to pay don't I didn't but don't steal their product... Stealing implies you are taking something from them, if you weren't going to pay in the first place they lose nothing by having you watch the games for free anyway, if people didn't pay because it could be done for free then that is stealing but I doubt this is the case for 95% of people because of how unreliable getting it free seemed to be. http://www.gameproducer.net/images/piracyisnottheft.jpg If you have ever downloaded a song/movie/book you are just as bad as anyone watching a free stream. | ||
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
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CrazyF1r3f0x
United States2120 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Just hope mlg is more careful next time. Its not good to upset paying customers and you have to give them free cookies if you mess up. | ||
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
100k viewers in typical MLG * 10% sell through yields, 10k sales @ $20 = $200,000 in revenue estimated 10k packages sold | ||
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00Visor
4337 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:18 noD wrote: well if 194 tlers paid probably more then probably 1300 people overall paid, and they probably got more than the 26k usd in prizes ... I feel good for that even tho i think it's too much money xD 26k is a small amount in comparison to production cost and the travel cost of all 32 players. Then again, they earned a bit through sponsors. | ||
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