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DeekZ
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia235 Posts
February 27 2012 02:03 GMT
#121
I didn't pay or watch MLG this week, not because I'm cheap or I thought it was too expensive I just didn't have the time to watch all the games, but I wish everyone would stop calling people "cheap" because they didn't want to pay.

For years e-sports has been either free or pay for HQ with free LQ calling people cheap because they didn't want to pay $20 for something they usually get for free is unfair and ridiculous. It's not killing e-sports.

If you had $20 and the time to spare then congrats, you got to see some amazing games, stop being mad at people that couldn't afford it/didn't think it was worth it.
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
February 27 2012 02:03 GMT
#122
Instead of doing PPV's, Sundance should focus his attention to Blizzard and make them help market tournaments inside the game client. Works wonders for League of Legends.
TheRPGAddict
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 02:04:52
February 27 2012 02:03 GMT
#123
Couldn't irresponsibly blow $20 on a weekend of the content of this magnitude. It couldn't be done. I watched a re-stream and still wasn't convinced. I can spend that money much better such as buying math books or language learning materials or help pay for my gym membership etc using $20 for 1 weekend as the scaling factor. They last longer for my enjoyment and I get much better payback.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 27 2012 02:03 GMT
#124
On February 27 2012 11:00 Sickkiee wrote:
I just watched the streams for free off twitch.tv.

No idea why it let me watch, but I was able to watch all the major games in good quality with barely any lagg, for free.

Standard Google Chrome installation.

Hurry guys crucify me!

i paid for my membership, and have no problem with people who used the workaround. indeed, i told my friend about the workaround so that he could watch for free. thats mlg's fuck-up and they should fix it.

my only issue is the speculation that the freeloaders caused lag. if thats true--and i have no idea if it is--that would piss me off. but lag seems like mlg/twitch's fuck-up and they should fix it.
allerion
Profile Joined December 2011
62 Posts
February 27 2012 02:03 GMT
#125
On February 27 2012 10:58 lachy89 wrote:They flew every player over and paid for full accommodation and food...


So the only way MLG can think of to get good games is to pay people to go to their tournaments?

It hurts my head to think that nobody could come up with a better way to get good players to want to go to their tournaments.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 27 2012 02:04 GMT
#126
On February 27 2012 11:03 TheRPGAddict wrote:
Couldn't irresponsibly blow $20 on a weekend of the content of this magnitude. It couldn't be done. I watched a re-stream and still wasn't convinced. I can spend that money much better such as buying math books or language learning materials and pay for my gym membership. They last longer and I get much better payback.

i take it you never go to the movies then? dont have an expensive phone plan? dont eat out at restaurants? US culture is built around wasting money on luxury items.
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
February 27 2012 02:04 GMT
#127
On February 27 2012 10:45 Primadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 10:41 JOJOsc2news wrote:
Would the OP consider adding a second poll regarding BarCrafts?

Poll: I watched MLG Winter Arena...

...at home (work, friend's place etc.) (503)
 
80%

...at a BarCraft (122)
 
20%

625 total votes

Your vote: I watched MLG Winter Arena...

(Vote): ...at home (work, friend's place etc.)
(Vote): ...at a BarCraft




ty for setting up the poll


You were right, it would actually have been better to have that as an option in the initial poll because at a BarCraft you didn't pay for the stream itself but watched it without using a restream or private/incognito browsing. Poll is flawed as it is.
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Zer atai
Profile Joined September 2011
United States691 Posts
February 27 2012 02:05 GMT
#128
I watched it as a part of my school's starcraft 2 club
Want to sport eSports? Disable adblock. P.S. En Taro Adun!!
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 27 2012 02:05 GMT
#129
this thread reminds me why i ahve no faith in humanity

when did it become okay to steal and cheat as long as you wont get caught or punished?
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
February 27 2012 02:05 GMT
#130
On February 27 2012 11:03 allerion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 10:58 lachy89 wrote:They flew every player over and paid for full accommodation and food...


So the only way MLG can think of to get good games is to pay people to go to their tournaments?

It hurts my head to think that nobody could come up with a better way to get good players to want to go to their tournaments.


I'm sure if they didn't fly the players out they still would hvae all wanted to go. But spending a thousand dollars to fly to the US to most likely win nothing isn't really worth it for most people..
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 27 2012 02:05 GMT
#131
On February 27 2012 11:04 JOJOsc2news wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 10:45 Primadog wrote:
On February 27 2012 10:41 JOJOsc2news wrote:
Would the OP consider adding a second poll regarding BarCrafts?

Poll: I watched MLG Winter Arena...

...at home (work, friend's place etc.) (503)
 
80%

...at a BarCraft (122)
 
20%

625 total votes

Your vote: I watched MLG Winter Arena...

(Vote): ...at home (work, friend's place etc.)
(Vote): ...at a BarCraft




ty for setting up the poll


You were right, it would actually have been better to have that as an option in the initial poll because at a BarCraft you didn't pay for the stream itself but watched it without using a restream or private/incognito browsing. Poll is flawed as it is.

you can copy paste his poll into the op.
imperator-xy
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Germany1377 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 02:05:54
February 27 2012 02:05 GMT
#132
On February 27 2012 11:03 allerion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 10:58 lachy89 wrote:They flew every player over and paid for full accommodation and food...


So the only way MLG can think of to get good games is to pay people to go to their tournaments?

It hurts my head to think that nobody could come up with a better way to get good players to want to go to their tournaments.

i doubt theres a single korean or european out there who would travel to the us just to get some love


hope you werent trolling. if you were you actually got me XD
Shunjal
Profile Joined August 2010
United States482 Posts
February 27 2012 02:06 GMT
#133
On February 27 2012 11:03 allerion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 10:58 lachy89 wrote:They flew every player over and paid for full accommodation and food...


So the only way MLG can think of to get good games is to pay people to go to their tournaments?

It hurts my head to think that nobody could come up with a better way to get good players to want to go to their tournaments.



Ask any team or team manager, or the teamless players who were able to attend, how they feel about the accomidations being taken care of. Not only the monetary side, but the logistics of setting up a flight, hotel, food, etc.
esotericc
Profile Joined July 2011
449 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 02:08:02
February 27 2012 02:06 GMT
#134
Didn't pay, stream was free for me anyway out of some strange combination of adblock and no script, didn't use privacy work around but voted that I did because of lack of option.

Would pay 5$ easily, would think twice about 10$. I don't believe paying 20$ is helping esports grow and I don't buy into sundances pity parade on SoTG. I don't want to support a PPV pay model that starts at 20$, personal preference nothing against people who bought it.

Funny thing is if they marketed it properly, said 20$ would support further arena's and was an option and still gave a 360p free stream I would have gladly bought a pass, no 360p stream and bad marketing sealed the deal with me not thinking they deserved my money.
lachy89
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia264 Posts
February 27 2012 02:06 GMT
#135
On February 27 2012 11:00 Almonjin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 10:58 lachy89 wrote:
Why does everyone seem to think they have the right to watch anything and do anything they can for free. Guess what shit like this tournament cost money to organize... They flew every player over and paid for full accommodation and food...

And what do you have to do to help this happen? Pay $20.

Yep $20

Apparently that makes Sundance Hitler... What a strange world we live in...



Unless you understand how monetizing esports in this way will affect the scene in the long-term, and are ready to make an argument about it, your statements mean less than nothing.

I'm sorry but to me $20 is less than nothing...If people are wanting Esports to expand and cannot help with something as little as $20. Then yes Esports is in trouble but I don't think its because Sundance is charging the $20, It's because people are greedy and assume they have the right to watch anything that is produced ever (we are used to torrents and watching streams for free).
act.hero
Profile Joined April 2011
United States205 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 02:06:57
February 27 2012 02:06 GMT
#136
If MLG didn't fly people to New York, the prize pool could have been ~$70,000.

This is just one reason why BW was localized. MLG is spending way too much money on people who don't win.
seodoth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands318 Posts
February 27 2012 02:07 GMT
#137
I thought I had 1 hour of free time to watch the stream, so started it when Huk vs Ret got aired. But the stream never got closed :S so I just kept watching it till the end
Gryffes
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom763 Posts
February 27 2012 02:07 GMT
#138
I paid and ended up watching unlaggy restreams because the official stream kept freezing on me.

>.>
www.youtube.com/gryffes - Random Gaming Videos.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 02:07:56
February 27 2012 02:07 GMT
#139
Um...

I watched with a friend that paid the $20, what do I vote? I saw it legitimately but didn't pay for it.
TheRPGAddict
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1403 Posts
February 27 2012 02:07 GMT
#140
On February 27 2012 11:04 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 11:03 TheRPGAddict wrote:
Couldn't irresponsibly blow $20 on a weekend of the content of this magnitude. It couldn't be done. I watched a re-stream and still wasn't convinced. I can spend that money much better such as buying math books or language learning materials and pay for my gym membership. They last longer and I get much better payback.

i take it you never go to the movies then? dont have an expensive phone plan? dont eat out at restaurants? US culture is built around wasting money on luxury items.
I don't purchase refreshments at a movie theatre and my phone plan is much more essential and I use it more and it gives me greater pay back and is at a much better value. Eating out are social events such as dates or with buds, harvesting relationships have much more value than watching a bracket of starcraft stretched out over a weekend. I also don't do the above mentioned very often, on special occasions.
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