EPTOn February 27 2012 10:56 allerion wrote:
Wasn't aware UFC was on the same level as NBA, MLB, NFL....
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Wasn't aware UFC was on the same level as NBA, MLB, NFL....
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It's still a major sport.
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
It's still a major sport. | ||
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Almonjin
35 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:52 Detrimentally wrote: You are beyond ignorant. The stream dropped twice for a total of 5 minutes and each time, there were other ways to view the game. MLG wants to monetize so they can become the first self-sufficient eSports league in the world. Take a hike and don't come back until you have a logic based around facts rather than your oh so noble crusader bullshit. No you. Any dropping of an expensive paid stream is a problem, twice is awful. This is ignoring the fact that it was unwatchable for most of Europe the whole day. You've obviously bought into the propaganda MLG has seeded around, and you are obviously an extremely gullible person. I understand that you paid and now you have to come here and justify yourself, but having an argument usually helps with that. Have a great day. | ||
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FlamingForce
Netherlands701 Posts
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lachy89
Australia264 Posts
And what do you have to do to help this happen? Pay $20. Yep $20 Apparently that makes Sundance Hitler... What a strange world we live in... | ||
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
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nooboon
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act.hero
United States205 Posts
You can watch every show as it comes out without Hulu Plus. MLG's old payment system was akin to Hulu Plus. Hulu Plus literally is my point. TL:DR - MLG has to make their live events make money. They waste so much money on bullshit that isn't necessary, and then pretend like it's the stream viewers' bill to pay. | ||
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imperator-xy
Germany1377 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:51 LuckoftheIrish wrote: OGN and MBC are local, not international. They work within a very self-contained structure in a single country. ESL sells stuff and has issues with administration. They've continued to exist and continued to put on tournaments, but they aren't a particularly good model. WCG was a pet project of Samsung. It's dying now that Samsung is less interested in wasting lots of money. They also have tons of problems - VoDs, website - and aren't a model organization at all. More than anything they're an example of what not to do, for reasons explained a lot of times on Live on 3 and even ITG/SotG. Rather than asking rhetorical questions (since I assume that's rhetorical. I don't think you're going to pay any attention to answers), educate yourself. Watch Sundance's interviews. Watch MLGAdam's interview. Read the posts here by LordJerith about monetizing Starcraft. Read FXOBoss's blog. Try to understand what MLG is trying to accomplish. the guy below you pretty much sums up my opinion. why should ESL's model be bad? ESL is the biggest esports league (overall) for several years now. they may be having hard times now, but im pretty sure thats just because they messed up with IEM at the beginning. the way MLG works right now it isnt quite international as well. games are played at american times and to watch them you would need to pay american prizes (that prize wouldnt be imaginable in europe). | ||
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Detrimentally
United States78 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:47 Almonjin wrote: It was free for me. I wouldn't care as much if Sundance was rolling around on a pile of money, instead whatever profit they might make will go to investors who could give a shit less about Sc or esports and, in part, I didn't pay because I don't think their interests should have the highest priority in the community. You can argue that not putting investors first retards growth, and you're probably right. But the kind of growth that other sports enjoyed when they monetized came at a price. Large pools of money control most major sports and ream fans, who are forced to pay out the ass to enjoy their hobby. Take a look at UFC,,, Sundance rolling around on a pile of money? Maybe a small pile of $1s, bro. Take the stick out of your ass and the blind fold off your eyes. | ||
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Almonjin
35 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:58 lachy89 wrote: Why does everyone seem to think they have the right to watch anything and do anything they can for free. Guess what shit like this tournament cost money to organize... They flew every player over and paid for full accommodation and food... And what do you have to do to help this happen? Pay $20. Yep $20 Apparently that makes Sundance Hitler... What a strange world we live in... Unless you understand how monetizing esports in this way will affect the scene in the long-term, and are ready to make an argument about it, your statements mean less than nothing. | ||
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Sickkiee
Japan607 Posts
No idea why it let me watch, but I was able to watch all the major games in good quality with barely any lagg, for free. Standard Google Chrome installation. Hurry guys crucify me! | ||
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allerion
62 Posts
If you ask whoever runs the sport, he will say they're nowhere near the three organizations I mentioned. Because they're not. | ||
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Shunjal
United States482 Posts
Will buy again, and would pay to attend one of the awesome Championship events, as I have in the past. In addition, I liked what I saw from Assembly, which wasn't much because everytime I tuned it, it was on commercial. But the finals was pretty decent, except the game where Stephano got dropped. | ||
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act.hero
United States205 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:58 lachy89 wrote: Why does everyone seem to think they have the right to watch anything and do anything they can for free. Guess what shit like this tournament cost money to organize... They flew every player over and paid for full accommodation and food... Why? Those expenses are completely unnecessary. And quite frankly, MLG deserves to bleed money. Spending money to have a live event only works if you make money at the event. Streaming doesn't cost anywhere near the amount of money they're trying to derp off of it. | ||
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RmoteCntrld
United States596 Posts
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OneOddOrange
Canada215 Posts
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Almonjin
35 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:59 Detrimentally wrote: Sundance rolling around on a pile of money? Maybe a small pile of $1s, bro. Take the stick out of your ass and the blind fold off your eyes. Nice response, you're obviously of the lowest caste in whatever society you come from. User was warned for this post | ||
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Atrain1982
United States23 Posts
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Detrimentally
United States78 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:57 Almonjin wrote: No you. Any dropping of an expensive paid stream is a problem, twice is awful. This is ignoring the fact that it was unwatchable for most of Europe the whole day. You've obviously bought into the propaganda MLG has seeded around, and you are obviously an extremely gullible person. I understand that you paid and now you have to come here and justify yourself, but having an argument usually helps with that. Have a great day. It must suck to be a poor high school dropout that feels the need to make up bullshit to hide their own disappointment from not being able to buy their pass because they work a shitty job for a shitty salary with a shitty future. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Petninja
United States159 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:50 lachy89 wrote: I'm a university student too, this was just 1 less slab for me this weekend... is the economy in America really that bad where $20 deserves such an outcry? Their wants exceed their means, nothing more. | ||
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