EPTI'm saving for a car and college tuition, last thing I bought was amnesia for $5; you can't really expect me to pay for this.
How did you watch MLG? - Page 5
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Spiders
United States86 Posts
I'm saving for a car and college tuition, last thing I bought was amnesia for $5; you can't really expect me to pay for this. | ||
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rwong48
United States105 Posts
With all the issues that paid subscribers were seeing, I'm glad I used a restream. The MLG_SCA stream was working nicely, though, for the short time that I was watching it (not while everyone else was lagging) | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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lachy89
Australia264 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:48 Dissonance23 wrote: Most of the viewers are poor college students, $20 is a lot of money when you barely make any. I'm a university student too, this was just 1 less slab for me this weekend... is the economy in America really that bad where $20 deserves such an outcry? | ||
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Danzo
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:45 imperator-xy wrote: im shocked that so many people paid for it OGN, MBC, ESL, WCG and lots of other organizations could work perfectly for over a decade without getting a single cent from their viewers. why exactly does MLG need $20 for 3 days of 2nd class esports (i consider only GSL as first class) to hold a tournament with low prizemoney? i dont get it btw i watched like 5 minutes (waiting for a game) on twitch.tv OGN and MBC are local, not international. They work within a very self-contained structure in a single country. ESL sells stuff and has issues with administration. They've continued to exist and continued to put on tournaments, but they aren't a particularly good model. WCG was a pet project of Samsung. It's dying now that Samsung is less interested in wasting lots of money. They also have tons of problems - VoDs, website - and aren't a model organization at all. More than anything they're an example of what not to do, for reasons explained a lot of times on Live on 3 and even ITG/SotG. Rather than asking rhetorical questions (since I assume that's rhetorical. I don't think you're going to pay any attention to answers), educate yourself. Watch Sundance's interviews. Watch MLGAdam's interview. Read the posts here by LordJerith about monetizing Starcraft. Read FXOBoss's blog. Try to understand what MLG is trying to accomplish. | ||
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allerion
62 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:39 PiGStarcraft wrote: If e-sports is too grow it has to become able to pay out prizes on the day. And MLG is trying to put itself in a position to do that. Anyone accusing Sundance or MLG of greed are damn ignorant. If Esports is going to grow it needs more people. PPV turns away people. Major sports aren't PPV for a reason, PPV makes introducing new people to something very difficult because no one is going to pay money to watch something theyre not super-ultra-mega fans of. MLG is just looking short-term, though expecting halo derps to think about where they will be in 10/20/50 years is a bit much.... | ||
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Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
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act.hero
United States205 Posts
I don't have to pay to watch TV on Hulu (and I don't even watch on hulu because of ads). Advertising means free watchers are already being used as a source of income. | ||
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Almonjin
35 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:50 lachy89 wrote: I'm a university student too, this was just 1 less slab for me this weekend... is the economy in America really that bad where $20 deserves such an outcry? Lots of people coming here to justify having paid for a slide-show of the finals. | ||
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Detrimentally
United States78 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:43 Almonjin wrote: The games were fine, the stream was, again, an embarrassment. Doubly so considering this was their first attempt to fully monetize an event. To restate my position, I watched a restream because of a combination of self-interest (I'm a poor student, with a fixed income and no $ to spare) and because I oppose the agenda of MLG which, just like in every other sport, is to get a chokehold on distribution/licensing to the point where they control the sport entirely. Apart from a select few, players can't even make a reliable professional income, yet our priority is monetizing events so MLG can pay dividends to their investors,,,, You are beyond ignorant. The stream dropped twice for a total of 5 minutes and each time, there were other ways to view the game. MLG wants to monetize so they can become the first self-sufficient eSports league in the world. Take a hike and don't come back until you have a logic based around facts rather than your oh so noble crusader bullshit. | ||
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spacek
United States213 Posts
I don't really see where the massive QQ is coming from personally, people thinking MLG is the devil trying to gouge them out of every dollar they can is quite ridiculous. MLG is NOT (read: NOT) the first north american esports circuit. The first one didn't charge for anything but attendence / concessions (online viewing was completely free), and the CPL went out of business after ~7 years. Companies like this need money to stay afloat. One thing I would probably see them doing if they were doing poorly was changing the location of the office, can't imagine the rent in a place like that.. | ||
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peekn
United States1152 Posts
I don't buy "premium" things that often...  | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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tuho12345
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:51 allerion wrote: If Esports is going to grow it needs more people. PPV turns away people. Major sports aren't PPV for a reason, PPV makes introducing new people to something very difficult because no one is going to pay money to watch something theyre not super-ultra-mega fans of. MLG is just looking short-term, though expecting halo derps to think about where they will be in 10/20/50 years is a bit much.... UFC On February 27 2012 10:52 act.hero wrote: I don't think it will ever be worth it to pay to watch SC2. I don't have to pay to watch TV on Hulu (and I don't even watch on hulu because of ads). Advertising means free watchers are already being used as a source of income. Hulu Plus | ||
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allerion
62 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:51 Danzo wrote: Your loss if you didn't pay and shame on the people who watched re-streams, you're the scum of esports. Why would anybody pay for that? Why would anybody support a company which has, time and time again, given a terrible product? | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:54 allerion wrote: Because they haven't "time and time again given a terrible product" ... I mean by your logic why would would watch something for free(or that has always been free) if it was constantly a horrible product?Why would anybody pay for that? Why would anybody support a company which has, time and time again, given a terrible product? | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:51 Danzo wrote: Your loss if you didn't pay and shame on the people who watched re-streams, you're the scum of esports. you have no right to say what you said unless you've never downloaded any movies or songs. | ||
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allerion
62 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:54 Diamond wrote: UFC Wasn't aware UFC was on the same level as NBA, MLB, NFL.... owait | ||
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