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Spiders
Profile Joined February 2011
United States86 Posts
February 27 2012 01:50 GMT
#81
People complaining about others using work-arounds or watching restreams while downloading 10 torrents in the background.
I'm saving for a car and college tuition, last thing I bought was amnesia for $5; you can't really expect me to pay for this.
rwong48
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States105 Posts
February 27 2012 01:50 GMT
#82
I watched only the finals since I'm not that into SC2. That isn't worth $20 to me.

With all the issues that paid subscribers were seeing, I'm glad I used a restream.

The MLG_SCA stream was working nicely, though, for the short time that I was watching it (not while everyone else was lagging)
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
February 27 2012 01:50 GMT
#83
i paid and watched matches on 480p.
lachy89
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia264 Posts
February 27 2012 01:50 GMT
#84
On February 27 2012 10:48 Dissonance23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 10:45 lachy89 wrote:
I still don't understand how so many people are having a massive bitch session over $20. Grow the fuck up and get over it...

I paid and watched it even though I missed a large portion due to going to an 18th and missing a lot due to Australian Timezone, I will pay and I will watch again it was a great event and to all those crying about $20 get a fucking life!


Most of the viewers are poor college students, $20 is a lot of money when you barely make any.


I'm a university student too, this was just 1 less slab for me this weekend... is the economy in America really that bad where $20 deserves such an outcry?
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
February 27 2012 01:51 GMT
#85
Your loss if you didn't pay and shame on the people who watched re-streams, you're the scum of esports.
Getting too old for this..
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
February 27 2012 01:51 GMT
#86
On February 27 2012 10:45 imperator-xy wrote:
im shocked that so many people paid for it


OGN, MBC, ESL, WCG and lots of other organizations could work perfectly for over a decade without getting a single cent from their viewers.

why exactly does MLG need $20 for 3 days of 2nd class esports (i consider only GSL as first class) to hold a tournament with low prizemoney? i dont get it


btw i watched like 5 minutes (waiting for a game) on twitch.tv


OGN and MBC are local, not international. They work within a very self-contained structure in a single country.

ESL sells stuff and has issues with administration. They've continued to exist and continued to put on tournaments, but they aren't a particularly good model.

WCG was a pet project of Samsung. It's dying now that Samsung is less interested in wasting lots of money. They also have tons of problems - VoDs, website - and aren't a model organization at all. More than anything they're an example of what not to do, for reasons explained a lot of times on Live on 3 and even ITG/SotG.

Rather than asking rhetorical questions (since I assume that's rhetorical. I don't think you're going to pay any attention to answers), educate yourself. Watch Sundance's interviews. Watch MLGAdam's interview. Read the posts here by LordJerith about monetizing Starcraft. Read FXOBoss's blog. Try to understand what MLG is trying to accomplish.
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allerion
Profile Joined December 2011
62 Posts
February 27 2012 01:51 GMT
#87
On February 27 2012 10:39 PiGStarcraft wrote:

If e-sports is too grow it has to become able to pay out prizes on the day. And MLG is trying to put itself in a position to do that. Anyone accusing Sundance or MLG of greed are damn ignorant.


If Esports is going to grow it needs more people. PPV turns away people.

Major sports aren't PPV for a reason, PPV makes introducing new people to something very difficult because no one is going to pay money to watch something theyre not super-ultra-mega fans of.

MLG is just looking short-term, though expecting halo derps to think about where they will be in 10/20/50 years is a bit much....
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
February 27 2012 01:52 GMT
#88
I regret not paying. Wish i did you enjoy it fully.
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
act.hero
Profile Joined April 2011
United States205 Posts
February 27 2012 01:52 GMT
#89
I don't think it will ever be worth it to pay to watch SC2.

I don't have to pay to watch TV on Hulu (and I don't even watch on hulu because of ads). Advertising means free watchers are already being used as a source of income.
Almonjin
Profile Joined July 2011
35 Posts
February 27 2012 01:52 GMT
#90
On February 27 2012 10:50 lachy89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 10:48 Dissonance23 wrote:
On February 27 2012 10:45 lachy89 wrote:
I still don't understand how so many people are having a massive bitch session over $20. Grow the fuck up and get over it...

I paid and watched it even though I missed a large portion due to going to an 18th and missing a lot due to Australian Timezone, I will pay and I will watch again it was a great event and to all those crying about $20 get a fucking life!


Most of the viewers are poor college students, $20 is a lot of money when you barely make any.


I'm a university student too, this was just 1 less slab for me this weekend... is the economy in America really that bad where $20 deserves such an outcry?



Lots of people coming here to justify having paid for a slide-show of the finals.
Detrimentally
Profile Joined June 2011
United States78 Posts
February 27 2012 01:52 GMT
#91
On February 27 2012 10:43 Almonjin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 10:31 Detrimentally wrote:
On February 27 2012 10:29 Almonjin wrote:
On February 27 2012 10:26 Detrimentally wrote:
Fuck all of the people that worked around the paywall.



You're a corporate shill, and its you that is killing esports by swallowing an inferior product and paying for it.

If by inferior product you are referring to the tournament that set the bar for production, then yes. Minus a few minor glitches lasting no more than 10 minutes over 80 hours of content, MLG > GSL > DreamHack > IPL > NASL.



The games were fine, the stream was, again, an embarrassment. Doubly so considering this was their first attempt to fully monetize an event.

To restate my position, I watched a restream because of a combination of self-interest (I'm a poor student, with a fixed income and no $ to spare) and because I oppose the agenda of MLG which, just like in every other sport, is to get a chokehold on distribution/licensing to the point where they control the sport entirely. Apart from a select few, players can't even make a reliable professional income, yet our priority is monetizing events so MLG can pay dividends to their investors,,,,


You are beyond ignorant. The stream dropped twice for a total of 5 minutes and each time, there were other ways to view the game. MLG wants to monetize so they can become the first self-sufficient eSports league in the world. Take a hike and don't come back until you have a logic based around facts rather than your oh so noble crusader bullshit.
I say what I want to say and do what I want to do. There's no in between. People will either love you for it or hate you for it.
spacek
Profile Joined June 2010
United States213 Posts
February 27 2012 01:52 GMT
#92
paid $20, watched the stream wonderfully all weekend, then went to a barcraft for champ sunday. Would pay again, wouldn't want to see MLG going away like the CPL did.

I don't really see where the massive QQ is coming from personally, people thinking MLG is the devil trying to gouge them out of every dollar they can is quite ridiculous. MLG is NOT (read: NOT) the first north american esports circuit. The first one didn't charge for anything but attendence / concessions (online viewing was completely free), and the CPL went out of business after ~7 years. Companies like this need money to stay afloat. One thing I would probably see them doing if they were doing poorly was changing the location of the office, can't imagine the rent in a place like that..
yaya
peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 01:53:03
February 27 2012 01:52 GMT
#93
I really just check the LR threads and the liquipedia brackets to see who won the matches, didn't pay nor watch MLG. Kinda bummed I wanted to watch some of the matches, but no way in hell I'm paying $20 for the tournament. I think that I would only pay that much for a year's worth of material.

I don't buy "premium" things that often...
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
February 27 2012 01:53 GMT
#94
the tall poppy syndrome of those who paid $20 is amazing
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 01:53:30
February 27 2012 01:53 GMT
#95
I didn't pay cuz I paid for the Porter Robinson's show on Friday already so broke. Don't wanna spend to much on these things.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
February 27 2012 01:54 GMT
#96
On February 27 2012 10:51 allerion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 10:39 PiGStarcraft wrote:

If e-sports is too grow it has to become able to pay out prizes on the day. And MLG is trying to put itself in a position to do that. Anyone accusing Sundance or MLG of greed are damn ignorant.


If Esports is going to grow it needs more people. PPV turns away people.

Major sports aren't PPV for a reason, PPV makes introducing new people to something very difficult because no one is going to pay money to watch something theyre not super-ultra-mega fans of.

MLG is just looking short-term, though expecting halo derps to think about where they will be in 10/20/50 years is a bit much....


UFC


On February 27 2012 10:52 act.hero wrote:
I don't think it will ever be worth it to pay to watch SC2.

I don't have to pay to watch TV on Hulu (and I don't even watch on hulu because of ads). Advertising means free watchers are already being used as a source of income.


Hulu Plus
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allerion
Profile Joined December 2011
62 Posts
February 27 2012 01:54 GMT
#97
On February 27 2012 10:51 Danzo wrote:
Your loss if you didn't pay and shame on the people who watched re-streams, you're the scum of esports.


Why would anybody pay for that? Why would anybody support a company which has, time and time again, given a terrible product?
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-27 01:56:50
February 27 2012 01:55 GMT
#98
I misclicked the "I subscribed and paid the full $20." option when I meant to hit "As a gold member, I subscribed for the discounted $15."

On February 27 2012 10:54 allerion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 10:51 Danzo wrote:
Your loss if you didn't pay and shame on the people who watched re-streams, you're the scum of esports.


Why would anybody pay for that? Why would anybody support a company which has, time and time again, given a terrible product?
Because they haven't "time and time again given a terrible product" ... I mean by your logic why would would watch something for free(or that has always been free) if it was constantly a horrible product?
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
February 27 2012 01:56 GMT
#99
On February 27 2012 10:51 Danzo wrote:
Your loss if you didn't pay and shame on the people who watched re-streams, you're the scum of esports.


you have no right to say what you said unless you've never downloaded any movies or songs.
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
allerion
Profile Joined December 2011
62 Posts
February 27 2012 01:56 GMT
#100
On February 27 2012 10:54 Diamond wrote:

UFC


Wasn't aware UFC was on the same level as NBA, MLB, NFL....

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