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Mentalizor
Denmark1596 Posts
On February 23 2012 05:09 Gov wrote: I know right? My mind has been blown... This might be a hard habit to break It's really not... What's hard is dropping mules on blue rather than gold. | ||
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Account252508
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jeeneeus
1168 Posts
On February 23 2012 20:26 monkybone wrote: The bouncing around happens on every mineral field, it doesn't affect the difference between blue and gold bases. The differences that are already there, assuming ideal mining (no bouncing around), will remain the same because of this. Yeah but if you completely mine out a patch, you are now increasing the amount of scvs bouncinng around, i.e. decreasing the income faster. Also assuming ideal mining, by mining out a patch, you now introduce unideal mining, which is also decreasing the income faster. | ||
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naggerNZ
New Zealand708 Posts
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On February 23 2012 20:37 naggerNZ wrote: I drop mine on whatever patch appears to have the least remaining minerals. More or less the worst possible tactic unless you're undersaturated, where it's still not beneficial. | ||
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naggerNZ
New Zealand708 Posts
On February 23 2012 20:46 Tobberoth wrote: More or less the worst possible tactic unless you're undersaturated, where it's still not beneficial. My bad. I mean't to say the opposite. I guess I should sober up. | ||
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love.less
United Kingdom293 Posts
but mining out patches because your trying to use the "correct" method probably will | ||
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Waah
United States120 Posts
I don't think it matters as much in the later stages of the game though. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
I drop on further patches later when I know there's more stuff to do and I'm more likely to miss the mule before it expires. | ||
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Fhaete
Canada15 Posts
Antiga Shipyard : overmining on the 2 close patches Cloud Kingdom : no overmining Korhal Compound : no overmining Entombed Valley : overmining on the 2 close patches Metalopolis : overmining on the 4 close patches Shakuras Plateau : overmining on the closest patch Tal'darim Altar : overmining on the 2 close patches Shattered Temple : overmining on the closest patch This was done on the single player version on the maps (I expect they'll be the same as the ladder version, otherwise I guess my testing was useless). Further assumptions : all main bases work the same (I just picked a starting location at random, didn't test them all). No SCV was mining during that time, since I don't think SCV's interfere with MULEs. So, on some maps it is OK to MULE the closest patches without worrying about overmining and losing 30 minerals. | ||
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wunsun
Canada622 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:27 Fhaete wrote: I haven't seen any systematic information about which patches, on which maps, cause the MULE to overmine (collect 300 minerals, return only 270) - but in my testing, maps do matter. These are the results I've found, for the main base of the maps in the current map pool : Antiga Shipyard : overmining on the 2 close patches Cloud Kingdom : no overmining Korhal Compound : no overmining Entombed Valley : overmining on the 2 close patches Metalopolis : overmining on the 4 close patches Shakuras Plateau : overmining on the closest patch Tal'darim Altar : overmining on the 2 close patches Shattered Temple : overmining on the closest patch This was done on the single player version on the maps (I expect they'll be the same as the ladder version, otherwise I guess my testing was useless). Further assumptions : all main bases work the same (I just picked a starting location at random, didn't test them all). No SCV was mining during that time, since I don't think SCV's interfere with MULEs. So, on some maps it is OK to MULE the closest patches without worrying about overmining and losing 30 minerals. How many did you test per patch? Just one mule? Just curious how solid this data is. | ||
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Fhaete
Canada15 Posts
On February 26 2012 02:45 wunsun wrote: How many did you test per patch? Just one mule? Just curious how solid this data is. When the result seemed close, I tested twice. When it was not really close, just once. On that closest patch on Shakuras Plateau, I actually tested it 3 times, because the MULE was so close to completing its trip. But it failed every time. Breaks my heart. If there is interest in this data, I could do more documented testing, on the multiplayer maps, etc. I just didn't want to go overboard at once, because it seems hard to believe no one has tested this before. EDIT : re-reading your question, maybe you were asking how many MULEs were active ? Just one at a time. Whenever I was testing a patch, the MULE was the only thing mining in my base, and the SCV's were far away. | ||
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