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Criticism is allowed. Undue flaming is not. Take a second to think your post through before you submit.

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Should go without saying, but don't link restreams here either.
RedBlargh
Profile Joined July 2011
99 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 00:20:34
February 14 2012 00:18 GMT
#781
Considering the quality of competition MLG has been churning out in their last few events, $20 is a small price to pay IMO for 3 days of live competition with 5 different streams. I wouldn't be surprised to see the first PPV Arena not have a impressive viewership, but once people realize not only the amazing games they'll have missed, but the stories that develope at MLGs they'll be regretting their cheap, stingy decision to not pay.
Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 00:19:38
February 14 2012 00:18 GMT
#782
On February 14 2012 09:13 stormchaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 09:05 jmbthirteen wrote:
On February 14 2012 08:59 stormchaser wrote:
There are multiple reasons why I won't pay but one of them being I feel like those that invested into a gold membership are totally getting ripped off. Kinda feel bad for those that supported the company by paying 40 bucks but cannot even get this first event available to them, where's the logic behind that? Sounds like a bad business plan that hurts alot of the current viewership and popularity making it alot less enjoyable for those watching it.

MLG is a big business with many sponsorships, multiple games available to them to make tournament money off of, and have merchandise, silver/gold memberships, and other respectable assets that generate them cash. My point being if you're gonna pay the 20 bucks to, ''support esports'', you aren't actually doing so. In fact, MLG is being quite ridiculous to not atleast bump the prize pool alittle more. I don't care if they pay 100k for the players travel costs, that's nothing compared to the amount of money they collect from just one championship event.

So you think MLG is just rolling in money? Are you kidding me? You know it costs money to run events. Prize pool is only a small amount compared to the operating costs.

Yes they do

http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-secures-10-million-in-series-a-financing-from-ritchie-capital-to-build-worlds-first-professional-video-game-league

You're clearly an idiot. They wouldn't be in this business if they weren't making a buttload of cash on it. I love how people look at MLG as if it's an nasl or an ipl. This is not an upstart.


Do you know how venture capital works? It DOES NOT equate to money in their pockets
"See you space cowboy"
Dynamy
Profile Joined August 2011
4 Posts
February 14 2012 00:18 GMT
#783
and the thing that's awful is even with probably 60% of the people not doing it, they'll still make more money than usual and continue to do it.
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
February 14 2012 00:19 GMT
#784
On February 14 2012 09:17 Spaceneil8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 09:13 stormchaser wrote:
On February 14 2012 09:05 jmbthirteen wrote:
On February 14 2012 08:59 stormchaser wrote:
There are multiple reasons why I won't pay but one of them being I feel like those that invested into a gold membership are totally getting ripped off. Kinda feel bad for those that supported the company by paying 40 bucks but cannot even get this first event available to them, where's the logic behind that? Sounds like a bad business plan that hurts alot of the current viewership and popularity making it alot less enjoyable for those watching it.

MLG is a big business with many sponsorships, multiple games available to them to make tournament money off of, and have merchandise, silver/gold memberships, and other respectable assets that generate them cash. My point being if you're gonna pay the 20 bucks to, ''support esports'', you aren't actually doing so. In fact, MLG is being quite ridiculous to not atleast bump the prize pool alittle more. I don't care if they pay 100k for the players travel costs, that's nothing compared to the amount of money they collect from just one championship event.

So you think MLG is just rolling in money? Are you kidding me? You know it costs money to run events. Prize pool is only a small amount compared to the operating costs.

Yes they do

http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-secures-10-million-in-series-a-financing-from-ritchie-capital-to-build-worlds-first-professional-video-game-league

You're clearly an idiot. They wouldn't be in this business if they weren't making a buttload of cash on it. I love how people look at MLG as if it's an nasl or an ipl. This is not an upstart.

You're the idiot here. Venture Capital is not income. You don't make a profit from venture capital.

Plus, the only upstart here is the NASL. IPL has Newscorp and IGN backing it.


Thank you. Its hilarious that people think Rupert Murdoch signed off on the IPL because he 'loves' e-sports. The sc2 community is getting worse by the day.
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zSnowy
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom51 Posts
February 14 2012 00:19 GMT
#785
There's just no way I'm paying for this. $20 a weekend?
I can pay for an entire year of pretty much everything the GSL has to offer for the same price. No thanks. Plus, the GSL streams their stuff for free. [FORFREE]
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 00:21:08
February 14 2012 00:19 GMT
#786
On February 14 2012 08:51 naama- wrote:
I will gladly pay 20 dollars because of the new online qualifier system.


hehe this made me laugh.
Then i stopped because it's kinda true.I also know some pros who did not get invited. =/
I see no reason why the qualifier was not open for all.
Its not like 10000 bronze player would have signed up...
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
February 14 2012 00:19 GMT
#787
On February 14 2012 09:13 stormchaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 09:05 jmbthirteen wrote:
On February 14 2012 08:59 stormchaser wrote:
There are multiple reasons why I won't pay but one of them being I feel like those that invested into a gold membership are totally getting ripped off. Kinda feel bad for those that supported the company by paying 40 bucks but cannot even get this first event available to them, where's the logic behind that? Sounds like a bad business plan that hurts alot of the current viewership and popularity making it alot less enjoyable for those watching it.

MLG is a big business with many sponsorships, multiple games available to them to make tournament money off of, and have merchandise, silver/gold memberships, and other respectable assets that generate them cash. My point being if you're gonna pay the 20 bucks to, ''support esports'', you aren't actually doing so. In fact, MLG is being quite ridiculous to not atleast bump the prize pool alittle more. I don't care if they pay 100k for the players travel costs, that's nothing compared to the amount of money they collect from just one championship event.

So you think MLG is just rolling in money? Are you kidding me? You know it costs money to run events. Prize pool is only a small amount compared to the operating costs.

Yes they do

http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-secures-10-million-in-series-a-financing-from-ritchie-capital-to-build-worlds-first-professional-video-game-league

You're clearly an idiot. They wouldn't be in this business if they weren't making a buttload of cash on it. I love how people look at MLG as if it's an nasl or an ipl. This is not an upstart.

ROFL. $10 miilion doesn't go far when you do everything MLG does. Prize pool is seriously nothing compared to the operating costs MLG has. Don't you remember, MLG just laid off a ton of people. Why? Cause they couldn't continue to afford them. They had to become leaner.

A buttload of cash. No one is making a buttload of cash in eSports dude. Fuck man, at least IPL has IGN/Fox backing it. Oh man you are naive.
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Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
February 14 2012 00:19 GMT
#788
On February 14 2012 09:17 werynais wrote:
Don't forget the referral program guys!

If for example day9 gets a share of it people will happily pay the 20$, pretty "smart" from MLG.

Casters make enough money as it is. Tastosis will get more money that weekend than most of the players.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
chestnutcc
Profile Joined July 2011
India429 Posts
February 14 2012 00:19 GMT
#789
Whats the issue with ad supported revenue?
mewo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States221 Posts
February 14 2012 00:20 GMT
#790
I won't be buying this. It just isn't worth it. Maybe if I had never watched an mlg. But I wouldn't have payed for the old format which I found much more exciting.

Also I really dislike that steam viewer. I looked for 10 seconds to find a fullscreen button but no luck. Maybe I just didn't see it, but still.

And if I wasn't convinced enough: EXTENDED SERIES.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
February 14 2012 00:20 GMT
#791
On February 14 2012 09:19 chestnutcc wrote:
Whats the issue with ad supported revenue?

There aren't enough viewers to make it profitable.
MetalLobster
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 00:24:11
February 14 2012 00:20 GMT
#792
If there is anyone who actually deserves my money, its MLG.

Poeple need to stop acting like they are entitled to shit that cost a lot of money to run.

Also, 20 bucks a weekend is what most people spend at single movie/dinner at the theaters, let alone getting something for your gf/bf for valentine's day if you are into that. If anything needs to be discussed, it's the viability of MLG doing PPV, not the cost.
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
February 14 2012 00:21 GMT
#793
On February 14 2012 08:57 xBillehx wrote:
I'm not against paying but when I put 2 days for $20 up against the $15 GSL light ticket for ~2 months of content it's an easy choice to make. Combine that with Assembly being on the same weekend and I'm not likely to forgo sleep to watch Starcraft for 72 hours straight so I think I'll just stick with Assembly. Again, I have nothing against a price I just think it's a bad comparison to competitors at an especially bad timing. Also feel bad for the shafted MLG Gold members.


Yep. Make it 5$, and almost everyone would buy it plus you get A LOT of viewers. Even 10$ would be somewhat reasonable, even though on the verge.

20$ is just way too much in comparison to all the other leagues.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
February 14 2012 00:21 GMT
#794
On February 14 2012 09:19 chestnutcc wrote:
Whats the issue with ad supported revenue?


There aren't enough people watching SC2 simply put.
Timerly
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany511 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 00:23:16
February 14 2012 00:21 GMT
#795
Dunno, like this it's just a random 32 player event with Assembly happening at the same time. Poor, poor timing, seriously. Also, 20$ is quite a price point.

On February 14 2012 09:20 MetalLobster wrote:
If there is anyone who actually deserves my money, its MLG.

Poeple need to stop acting like they are entitled to shit that cost a lot of money to run.


Not the point. Supply and demand rule and here we have two sources of supply, one free and one at a hefty price (especially in comparison to free). People are just pointing that out, that's actually concern for MLG speaking.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
February 14 2012 00:21 GMT
#796
Sundance is talking about growing esports. A lot of esports fans dont follow one single game, they watch and follow several games. Esports is not only sc2! You think ppl will be paying 20$ for every major event for every game they watch? He is certainly not helping esports by making this event exclusive.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
February 14 2012 00:21 GMT
#797
Yeah good luck with that.

It'll be quite interesting to see the stats though.
Grintzefish
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria6 Posts
February 14 2012 00:21 GMT
#798
well i would pay for an weekend of sc2. but 20 dollar is too much.
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-14 00:22:21
February 14 2012 00:21 GMT
#799
Why should we support MLG, when the fact of the matter is they give <10% of their revenue to the players. In the NFL, NBA, Tennis, etc, the players are near 50% of the revenue in salaries and compensation.

MLG is having it both ways, they haven't paid even 100k in prize money to SC2 players in their history, and they want $20 from each of the viewers now and being the most costly tournament around?

If you want SC2 to be a success, giving that $20 directly to the players will do alot more for SC2 than giving it to MLG. MLG will give only 1 or 2 of that 20 to the players.

ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
February 14 2012 00:22 GMT
#800
personally i dont mind paying to watch sc2 as i paid for the first 3 seasons of GSL, but i feel like nobody i know will be watching it so i wont be buying either. also theres so many other tournys out there who can put out the same level of production as mlg for free.
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