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MLG-Kyle
Profile Joined November 2010
United States123 Posts
February 02 2012 18:11 GMT
#21
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/p7wnz/no_more_mlg_silver_passes/c3n8cn6
Posted this on Reddit, but I thought I'd post it here as well:

Hey guys,

I'd like to step in and clear things up.

The goal with our product lineup for 2012 is to enable our fans to pay for exactly what they want. In 2011, our products were very convoluted and bundled GameBattles and video features together. We've found our audience tends to only care about one or the other, so we're restructuring our products in order to facilitate those wants.

Our Silver Membership was one of the biggest culprits. We found that there was about a 70%-30% split in terms of the product. A large majority of Silver Members were using the pass to compete on GameBattles, while another significant portion of Silver Members only cared about watching MLG Video in HD.

In order to set fair prices for our products, we need to create products let users pay for only the features they are interested in. That is why we are removing Silver Membership and replacing it with products that focus specifically on one interest.

As I said above, most of our Silver Members were interested in competing on GameBattles. Rather than force every single user to sign up for a brand new product, we thought it would be best to message our users in advance of the change and give them the option to opt out of the membership moving forward.

We're still in the process of refining our product listing for 2012, and this is just the beginning. For those of you who are interested in video, rest assured, there will be products released specifically to suit your interests. In the meantime, I suggest you opt out of renewals on this product moving forward.

For those of you who are less than excited by this change, as you renewed recently with the understanding that you would be able to watch our Columbus Championship Event in HD, please submit an e-mail through https://support.majorleaguegaming.com/customer/portal/emails/new with your MLG Username and we will happily refund your $9.99 as long as it was set to expire after our Columbus Championship Event (meaning your last renewal must have been on or after December 23rd).

In the end, our goal is to make our products easier to understand, and allow you to pay for exactly what you are interested without any fluff. This is the beginning of the process that will allow us to do that.

Thank you for understanding.

Sincerely, The MLG Product Team

VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
February 02 2012 18:11 GMT
#22
So.....I just got charged for 3 Months of Silver on the 14th...

If I cancel my membership now, do I lose those last 3 months of Silver access or do I just run out after 3 months?
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Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
February 02 2012 18:12 GMT
#23
On February 03 2012 03:08 whiskypriest wrote:
This is straight-up fraud. I encourage everyone who has a silver membership to make it known to MLG that this is bullshit.

From looking at their website, it appears that MLG has set up an elaborate system to protect itself from customers actually accessing customer support, so if anyone has direct numbers or emails for support personnel who can get refunds issued, it would be helpful to post them here.


From the email, and original post:

If you have any questions about GameBattles Premium Access, Silver Membership, or how this affects your account, please send us an e-mail at membership@mlgpro.com

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Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
February 02 2012 18:13 GMT
#24
On February 03 2012 03:11 MLG-Kyle wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/p7wnz/no_more_mlg_silver_passes/c3n8cn6
Posted this on Reddit, but I thought I'd post it here as well:

Hey guys,

I'd like to step in and clear things up.

The goal with our product lineup for 2012 is to enable our fans to pay for exactly what they want. In 2011, our products were very convoluted and bundled GameBattles and video features together. We've found our audience tends to only care about one or the other, so we're restructuring our products in order to facilitate those wants.

Our Silver Membership was one of the biggest culprits. We found that there was about a 70%-30% split in terms of the product. A large majority of Silver Members were using the pass to compete on GameBattles, while another significant portion of Silver Members only cared about watching MLG Video in HD.

In order to set fair prices for our products, we need to create products let users pay for only the features they are interested in. That is why we are removing Silver Membership and replacing it with products that focus specifically on one interest.

As I said above, most of our Silver Members were interested in competing on GameBattles. Rather than force every single user to sign up for a brand new product, we thought it would be best to message our users in advance of the change and give them the option to opt out of the membership moving forward.

We're still in the process of refining our product listing for 2012, and this is just the beginning. For those of you who are interested in video, rest assured, there will be products released specifically to suit your interests. In the meantime, I suggest you opt out of renewals on this product moving forward.

For those of you who are less than excited by this change, as you renewed recently with the understanding that you would be able to watch our Columbus Championship Event in HD, please submit an e-mail through https://support.majorleaguegaming.com/customer/portal/emails/new with your MLG Username and we will happily refund your $9.99 as long as it was set to expire after our Columbus Championship Event (meaning your last renewal must have been on or after December 23rd).

In the end, our goal is to make our products easier to understand, and allow you to pay for exactly what you are interested without any fluff. This is the beginning of the process that will allow us to do that.

Thank you for understanding.

Sincerely, The MLG Product Team



Should probably make a new thread for that.
windzor
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1013 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 18:15:25
February 02 2012 18:15 GMT
#25
On February 03 2012 03:13 Jakkerr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 03:11 MLG-Kyle wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/p7wnz/no_more_mlg_silver_passes/c3n8cn6
Posted this on Reddit, but I thought I'd post it here as well:

Hey guys,

I'd like to step in and clear things up.

The goal with our product lineup for 2012 is to enable our fans to pay for exactly what they want. In 2011, our products were very convoluted and bundled GameBattles and video features together. We've found our audience tends to only care about one or the other, so we're restructuring our products in order to facilitate those wants.

Our Silver Membership was one of the biggest culprits. We found that there was about a 70%-30% split in terms of the product. A large majority of Silver Members were using the pass to compete on GameBattles, while another significant portion of Silver Members only cared about watching MLG Video in HD.

In order to set fair prices for our products, we need to create products let users pay for only the features they are interested in. That is why we are removing Silver Membership and replacing it with products that focus specifically on one interest.

As I said above, most of our Silver Members were interested in competing on GameBattles. Rather than force every single user to sign up for a brand new product, we thought it would be best to message our users in advance of the change and give them the option to opt out of the membership moving forward.

We're still in the process of refining our product listing for 2012, and this is just the beginning. For those of you who are interested in video, rest assured, there will be products released specifically to suit your interests. In the meantime, I suggest you opt out of renewals on this product moving forward.

For those of you who are less than excited by this change, as you renewed recently with the understanding that you would be able to watch our Columbus Championship Event in HD, please submit an e-mail through https://support.majorleaguegaming.com/customer/portal/emails/new with your MLG Username and we will happily refund your $9.99 as long as it was set to expire after our Columbus Championship Event (meaning your last renewal must have been on or after December 23rd).

In the end, our goal is to make our products easier to understand, and allow you to pay for exactly what you are interested without any fluff. This is the beginning of the process that will allow us to do that.

Thank you for understanding.

Sincerely, The MLG Product Team



Should probably make a new thread for that.


OP Should just put this quote in the topic? Or a mod if he doesn't...
Yeah
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
February 02 2012 18:15 GMT
#26
On February 03 2012 03:11 MLG-Kyle wrote:
Rather than force every single user to sign up for a brand new product, we thought it would be best to message our users in advance of the change and give them the option to opt out of the membership moving forward.


Translated: Rather than loose customers we change there contracts, just write a email and hope they dont read it...
Nice try. Very unethical but nice try...
Save gaming: kill esport
Kluey
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1197 Posts
February 02 2012 18:16 GMT
#27
On February 03 2012 03:15 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 03:11 MLG-Kyle wrote:
Rather than force every single user to sign up for a brand new product, we thought it would be best to message our users in advance of the change and give them the option to opt out of the membership moving forward.


Translated: Rather than loose customers we change there contracts, just write a email and hope they dont read it...
Nice try. Very unethical but nice try...


Yeah. It's kind of a cheap business move to be honest.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 18:22:35
February 02 2012 18:17 GMT
#28
It is fine, people will get over it. Just need to wait for the rest of the subsciption plans and hope people don't have knee jerk reactions to what they want to read instead of what is there.

On February 03 2012 03:13 Jakkerr wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 03 2012 03:11 MLG-Kyle wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/p7wnz/no_more_mlg_silver_passes/c3n8cn6
Posted this on Reddit, but I thought I'd post it here as well:

Hey guys,

I'd like to step in and clear things up.

The goal with our product lineup for 2012 is to enable our fans to pay for exactly what they want. In 2011, our products were very convoluted and bundled GameBattles and video features together. We've found our audience tends to only care about one or the other, so we're restructuring our products in order to facilitate those wants.

Our Silver Membership was one of the biggest culprits. We found that there was about a 70%-30% split in terms of the product. A large majority of Silver Members were using the pass to compete on GameBattles, while another significant portion of Silver Members only cared about watching MLG Video in HD.

In order to set fair prices for our products, we need to create products let users pay for only the features they are interested in. That is why we are removing Silver Membership and replacing it with products that focus specifically on one interest.

As I said above, most of our Silver Members were interested in competing on GameBattles. Rather than force every single user to sign up for a brand new product, we thought it would be best to message our users in advance of the change and give them the option to opt out of the membership moving forward.

We're still in the process of refining our product listing for 2012, and this is just the beginning. For those of you who are interested in video, rest assured, there will be products released specifically to suit your interests. In the meantime, I suggest you opt out of renewals on this product moving forward.

For those of you who are less than excited by this change, as you renewed recently with the understanding that you would be able to watch our Columbus Championship Event in HD, please submit an e-mail through https://support.majorleaguegaming.com/customer/portal/emails/new with your MLG Username and we will happily refund your $9.99 as long as it was set to expire after our Columbus Championship Event (meaning your last renewal must have been on or after December 23rd).

In the end, our goal is to make our products easier to understand, and allow you to pay for exactly what you are interested without any fluff. This is the beginning of the process that will allow us to do that.

Thank you for understanding.

Sincerely, The MLG Product Team



Should probably make a new thread for that.


Or the OP could edit it in. I doubt that would happen because then all of a sudden it all makes sense and we cannot have that in the SC2 forums.
Brood War forever!
KicKDoG
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden765 Posts
February 02 2012 18:17 GMT
#29
This is just bad Hope they can help out the people it regards.
http://www.twitter.com/KicKDoG_LoL baylife plox?
phuzi0n
Profile Joined April 2010
United States308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 18:18:29
February 02 2012 18:18 GMT
#30
So the new Silver is $13 per 3 months (used to be $10) but Gold has HD and everything Silver does for $30 per year? WTH? They raised the price AND took away HD leaving no short term option for HD?
dicedicerevolution
Profile Joined October 2009
United States245 Posts
February 02 2012 18:19 GMT
#31
On February 03 2012 02:57 feanor1 wrote:
I didn't realize anyone actually bought silver. I thought everyone used the hotpockets code. I would just cancel and pick up the gold membership.


If you got it via the Hotpockets promotion do you still run the risk of getting charged? I know I did not need to put in any payment information but this made me uneasy enough to cancel for the time being.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 02 2012 18:19 GMT
#32
O_O;;
MLG-Kyle
Profile Joined November 2010
United States123 Posts
February 02 2012 18:20 GMT
#33
On February 03 2012 03:19 dicedicerevolution wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 02:57 feanor1 wrote:
I didn't realize anyone actually bought silver. I thought everyone used the hotpockets code. I would just cancel and pick up the gold membership.


If you got it via the Hotpockets promotion do you still run the risk of getting charged? I know I did not need to put in any payment information but this made me uneasy enough to cancel for the time being.


There is no risk of being charged for those who signed up via the Hot Pockets promotion.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
February 02 2012 18:21 GMT
#34
On February 03 2012 03:17 Kralic wrote:
It is fine, people will get over it. Just need to wait for the rest of the subsciption plans and hope people don't have knee jerk reactions to what they want to read instead of what is there.

you edit, so i think no need to replay to your old argument because you saw its not good.

On February 03 2012 03:17 Kralic wrote:
Relax put your pitchforks away and wait and see what other information is found out..

believe it or not. im one of the few guys on tl who dont have a pitchfork ^^
Save gaming: kill esport
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
February 02 2012 18:22 GMT
#35
As long as there is a possibility to get free HD quality via hotpockets, everything is fine
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
February 02 2012 18:23 GMT
#36
On February 03 2012 03:15 skeldark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 03:11 MLG-Kyle wrote:
Rather than force every single user to sign up for a brand new product, we thought it would be best to message our users in advance of the change and give them the option to opt out of the membership moving forward.


Translated: Rather than loose customers we change there contracts, just write a email and hope they dont read it...
Nice try. Very unethical but nice try...

now really, isn't it the customer's fault for not reading emails when that's like one of the only ways companies send information about their products/etc?
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14038 Posts
February 02 2012 18:24 GMT
#37
they'll probably offer a upgrade/refund for everyone just like the whole 2 event hd pass discount on a year of gold.

30 bucks a year is still the biggest steal in esports. silver was such a silly idea I have no idea why they had it in the first place.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 02 2012 18:25 GMT
#38
Yeah, I canceled as soon as I got this email, but that only applies after April. So now I've been charged for this crap that I don't want, and they're not giving me the HD tournament streams I signed up for. This is straight up fraud!!
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
February 02 2012 18:25 GMT
#39
On February 03 2012 03:22 graNite wrote:
As long as there is a possibility to get free HD quality via hotpockets, everything is fine

You can buy hot pockets in Germany?!
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
February 02 2012 18:25 GMT
#40
I'm confused, so how does this work now? What are the different forms for paying for HD videos?
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