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Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
January 31 2012 08:47 GMT
#81
On January 31 2012 15:40 Zeroxk wrote:
Cool, should be fun. Hope the casting times aren't too bad for europe. Good luck!

Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 15:38 Vul wrote:
I think it's cool that they're doing this, but if they want to produce content solely out of Code A qualifiers, why do they rarely stream the actual Code A qualifier?


There's A LOT of pressure for code A qualifiers and GOMTV feels they don't want to add on more by streaming it, though I wouldn't mind replaycasts

To be honest the whole "There's A LOT of pressure for code A qualifiers and GOMTV feels they don't want to add on more by streaming it" is a big joke. What is better. Player failing to qualify for Code A cause he fail the pressure or Player failing his first game after qualifying for code A due to the same pressure and becoming a big embarrassment for the team? (yeah i know the embarrassment part is blowing it up out of proportion but still.)
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 08:57:23
January 31 2012 08:54 GMT
#82
On January 31 2012 17:47 Frankon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 15:40 Zeroxk wrote:
Cool, should be fun. Hope the casting times aren't too bad for europe. Good luck!

On January 31 2012 15:38 Vul wrote:
I think it's cool that they're doing this, but if they want to produce content solely out of Code A qualifiers, why do they rarely stream the actual Code A qualifier?


There's A LOT of pressure for code A qualifiers and GOMTV feels they don't want to add on more by streaming it, though I wouldn't mind replaycasts

To be honest the whole "There's A LOT of pressure for code A qualifiers and GOMTV feels they don't want to add on more by streaming it" is a big joke. What is better. Player failing to qualify for Code A cause he fail the pressure or Player failing his first game after qualifying for code A due to the same pressure and becoming a big embarrassment for the team? (yeah i know the embarrassment part is blowing it up out of proportion but still.)

Most koreans that went thought it said they never wanted to go back due to the pressure and how it felt being there. I dont get why you would add increased pressure on it when pretty much every code a qualifier interview says they hope to never have to qualify again.

If these players fail to qualify for code a they have to wait 2-3 months now to be able to compete in any real tournement again.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 31 2012 08:58 GMT
#83
That's pure speculation but except Khaldor/Moletrap, I don't think any gom caster gives a close look to the korean scene. And about the korean on mid-tier team, I doubt that a foreign caster has hear a lot about them so a good combo like TB/dAppolo or Bitterdam is perfectly fine, and really nice for them.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 09:13:38
January 31 2012 09:13 GMT
#84
I don't like how priority is given to team members, it would have been a good way to promote yet unkown players to the already established teams.

edit: not saying that they should prioritize unkown players, just go according to bnet rank.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
January 31 2012 09:26 GMT
#85
On January 31 2012 18:13 JustPassingBy wrote:
I don't like how priority is given to team members, it would have been a good way to promote yet unkown players to the already established teams.

edit: not saying that they should prioritize unkown players, just go according to bnet rank.

Most team members are already high GM and Masters players already.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 31 2012 09:47 GMT
#86
On January 31 2012 18:26 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 18:13 JustPassingBy wrote:
I don't like how priority is given to team members, it would have been a good way to promote yet unkown players to the already established teams.

edit: not saying that they should prioritize unkown players, just go according to bnet rank.

Most team members are already high GM and Masters players already.


see? that's another point, that rule is somewhat superflous already.
it just makes somebody who climbs his way all to the top of the korean ladder lose his spot because somebody from an established team below him wants to participate.

on the other hand, players in teams do have a disadvantage because they cannot ladder all day.
Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
January 31 2012 10:06 GMT
#87
as long as they box out people who already have spots this sounds fantastic.

I imagine they will.
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Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 10:15:59
January 31 2012 10:10 GMT
#88
Hope this doesn't clash with the KSL, although I wouldn't trade watching the all kill format KSL team league with any daily SC2 tourney. Or the normal KSL for that matter, better players involved.
MarineFTW
Profile Joined April 2011
42 Posts
January 31 2012 10:33 GMT
#89
That's a good start, however to get a Code A spot this way you need to 1) win a 64 player tournament 2) win an offline tournament (likely at least 8 players). This is still a chance, but you would not really bet on it given that in Code B you "just" need to win one of the many brackets of 32 players (actually, much less nowadays - half of the spots in the bracket are empty).

What I would like to see is Code B being developed to a longer-term tournament, with Up&Down matches between Code B and Code A. In this scenario the Code B "regular season" (for Code B only players) could be conducted online; and GOM can delegate streaming/casting of this tournament to ESW/ESV/KSL/whomever. In this case Up&Down matches would be held between Code B winners + Code A loosers + seeds/invites.

I think that this system would provide much more opportunities to Code B players, and better chances to qualify for Code A.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
January 31 2012 10:44 GMT
#90
So did I get the ESV/ESW situation correct:

- ESV did a weekly tournament to give the skilled korean players something to do outside of GSL. They had a cash prize to attract the players.
- GOMTV and ESV decided that it'd be cool to add a code-A spot as well, to spice it up further.
- Coca scandal made them realise that it's not a good idea to hand out code-A spot when GSL players are in the tourney.
- Now ESV has to either a) drop the GSL players from the tourney b) drop the code-A spot.
- ESV want to keep the GSL players, so they drop the code-A spot and keep (even increase?) the cash price.
- GOM liked the idea of weekly tournaments giving a code-A spot, so they open a weekly on their own, doing the b) alternative: shutting out GSL players, but keep the code-A spot.

If they send them in NA/EU times (ie, EU evening/night, NA (early) afternoon i guess), which doesnt collide with the other weekly tournys as i understand, everything seems fine, and it is just more content for us spectators.

Did I get it right?
dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
January 31 2012 10:48 GMT
#91
On January 31 2012 19:44 Cascade wrote:
So did I get the ESV/ESW situation correct:

- ESV did a weekly tournament to give the skilled korean players something to do outside of GSL. They had a cash prize to attract the players.
- GOMTV and ESV decided that it'd be cool to add a code-A spot as well, to spice it up further.
- Coca scandal made them realise that it's not a good idea to hand out code-A spot when GSL players are in the tourney.
- Now ESV has to either a) drop the GSL players from the tourney b) drop the code-A spot.
- ESV want to keep the GSL players, so they drop the code-A spot and keep (even increase?) the cash price.
- GOM liked the idea of weekly tournaments giving a code-A spot, so they open a weekly on their own, doing the b) alternative: shutting out GSL players, but keep the code-A spot.

If they send them in NA/EU times (ie, EU evening/night, NA (early) afternoon i guess), which doesnt collide with the other weekly tournys as i understand, everything seems fine, and it is just more content for us spectators.

Did I get it right?


As far as I know, yes -- thank you :-p Makes much more sense when summed up like this, seemed like a lot of people hadn't been following what ESV was doing with the weekly and were confused by this announcement.
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WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
January 31 2012 10:52 GMT
#92
Boss caster duo, nice.
huehuehuehue
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Estonia455 Posts
January 31 2012 11:34 GMT
#93
Very nice, looking forward to seeing some foreigners play, and the casters are great as well.
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
January 31 2012 12:03 GMT
#94
seems nice, the only critique I have in the prioritization with foreign players. Foreigners have already so many ways to get into code a (not that it's easy for them, but easier than for players in korea without a team).

other than that, seems like a good idea, maybe I'll watch it some time
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 12:40:44
January 31 2012 12:37 GMT
#95
On January 31 2012 15:34 FXOpen wrote:
In B4 someone plays on behalf of another player online so that they get the qualification... Thats the only scandal that can happen next right?


Do you really think any of the Code S players would do this for their friends at the risk of getting caught after seeing what happened with coca/byun and getting banned from the GSL? ( Or whatever would happen, it would be bad though )
Kokosaft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany172 Posts
January 31 2012 12:47 GMT
#96
There (indirectly) is a monetary reward since Code A Ro48 gives ₩ 400,000 / $ 355 / € 260 (Source)
ToD
Profile Joined December 2008
France222 Posts
January 31 2012 14:01 GMT
#97
how to signup ? -,-
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desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
January 31 2012 14:03 GMT
#98
yea how to sign up got 5days to figure this out =D
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MrNomad
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States53 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 14:43:14
January 31 2012 14:30 GMT
#99
On January 31 2012 14:04 Diamond wrote:
Before you say "poor ESV" read this

All is well, and not a thing will change with the Korean Weekly.


THIS
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NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
January 31 2012 14:36 GMT
#100
Winner of the weekly match gets ₩100,000
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