EPTCode A seeds on the line in Esports Weekly Match - Page 6
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Lumi
United States1612 Posts
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On January 31 2012 23:45 Lumi wrote: The people saying that having a code a spot means that people will match fix are just not thinking clearly. It's not like a Code A spot has some special, moral inhibition reducing quality that can't be simply addressed. Sounds like no code A or S players are going to be playing. ESV's loss, but frankly, they took it away from the players and showed no trust to them because of what two people did. It was a pretty sloppy move and it was inevitable that someone would make use of GOMs willingness to saturate other high level tournaments with a GSL seed prize pool. The problem came from the fact that sometimes non-GSL players would run into friends/teammates in Code A/S and at that point, it becomes a very real possibility (i.e. CoCa/Byun) that the player in the GSL doesn't play his hardest because he wants his friend/teammate to have a shot at the GSL spot. It essentially came down to Diamond choosing between the Code A spot and only allowing non-GSL players or allowing any Korean player and no Code A spot. He chose the latter so GOMTV decided to take the other option and run their own tournament for it. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On January 31 2012 15:41 Primadog wrote: GOM took up a junior partner and give them some token reward. When the concept proven popular, drop the partner like a rock and copy the concept wholesale. Typical GOM. You could at least have the elegance to edit that post. | ||
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legatus legionis
Netherlands559 Posts
Say a player like MKP drops out of Code A, he plays here and meets his team mate. He could lose and let the teammate go through because he will most likely get through the actual qualifiers anyway. Doesn't have to be team mates it can be friends too like Coca/Byun, ex teammates. I really think you can even make the argument that if it's two unknown players from the same team it's possible that they won't try their hardest. Most simple way would be they meet in a round (say semi finals), they can know race x or person x will be in the next round (final) and when one guy is really bad against that race and the other is really good. You can set it up so that the player that will most likely get the spot if he goes through is the one that actually goes through. When there is an incentive to cheat, a small percentage of people always will. However my post serves no real point since I'm not sure what the relevance is to this league and such. Just wanted to put this perspective out there. I wonder if there could become any concrete rules for the future. Tagging on the idea of a governing body in the future, what those rules could entail. | ||
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careohx
263 Posts
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murtas
Portugal249 Posts
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Bijan
United States286 Posts
On January 31 2012 15:34 FXOpen wrote: In B4 someone plays on behalf of another player online so that they get the qualification... Thats the only scandal that can happen next right? The final qualification is an offline tournament, so the only scandal I foresee is Carmac showing up as Dimaga. Then we'll be left with a situation in which the tournament organizers have to shoot one of the "Dimaga's" while both of them try to convince everyone that the other is a fake. | ||
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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
http://ewm.kr/303 http://ewm.kr/308 | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
nice to see a new tournament over there though ^^. The bad side is... soon 24/7 tournaments uggghh. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Damn, not seeing IdrA in that list above me. | ||
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-Strider-
Mexico1605 Posts
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
edit: On February 01 2012 03:33 -Strider- wrote: GomTV should reward the effort that ESV and KSL do for the korea scene allowing them to give a Code A seed. where have you been? ESV had a code A seed reward and cancelled it because of match fixing. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
Looks like HuK is not giving up on sc2 as some doomsayers are predicting, no Idra though. Now we get to see what ZeNEXCutter is made of. And ST-Legend? Is it wrong of me to hope he loses so he keeps observing the gsl games? | ||
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-Strider-
Mexico1605 Posts
On February 01 2012 03:34 y0su wrote: nice player list! edit: where have you been? ESV had a code A seed reward and cancelled it because of match fixing. So that's why... thank you for clarifying! | ||
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eleaf
526 Posts
On February 01 2012 03:04 VirgilSC2 wrote: Just thought everyone should know they've posted a player list for the first week. It might still be subject to change but: TSLSymboL oGsRicgoonNsHSSandtGNalZaMvPfinaleTSLRevivaLSTRainBOwSTHackZeNEXCutterMvPTAiLSNsHSTassadarIMdreamerttFXOTheBestNsHSFreakyFXOTreeSTTigerClassicPrimeIMhorrorFXOTearIMReadyZeNEXPetFnaticRainZeNEXTREMEoGsBerraSTSoundMvPBangMvPVampireTSLRagnaroKcOrePrimeFXOWhaleNsHSSageIMTrueRS_GalaxySTKingKongSlayerSVenoGsVINES STLegend* (No Information Available)FXOChoyaEGPuMaSlayerSMiyaZeNEXYangSongEZeNEXJjunoGsJookTooGsIllusionMvPDreamNsHSStingMvPNoblesseTSLShineIMYongHwaSlayerSCranKFXOAlwaysMvPMonsterSlayerSCellaIMLosirASlayerSMinSalMoSaPrimeZeNEXSpartaEGHuKLiquid`HayprOAiCytoplasmLiquid`JinroQxGShuffleQxGSaSecArnSeeing the list and format I get the feeling that this tournament already has the potential to replace ESV/KSL if they are going to broadcast live replays during NA/EU time. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On February 01 2012 03:30 Koshi wrote: I think Apollo and TB are my second favorite duo. They are really good together. Damn, not seeing IdrA in that list above me. Apollo is FAR FAR better with TLO. It would have been nice to see TLO and Apollo rather than TB and Apollo. If we're getting what should be high level games, why don't we get high level commentary? | ||
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ragnorr
Denmark6097 Posts
On February 01 2012 04:08 eleaf wrote: Seeing the list and format I get the feeling that this tournament already has the potential to replace ESV/KSL if they are going to broadcast live replays during NA/EU time. KSL is in EU time and ESV is in US time. Neither of the tournements are played in the timespan that would define US/EU friendly time | ||
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nebok
Sweden85 Posts
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RusHXceL
United States1004 Posts
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