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On January 09 2012 23:07 Roberi wrote:
I'm curious, do mapmakers get money for these maps? If so, about how much can one get? Obviously it's a great honor to have the map featured in these kinds of tournaments. I'm just wondering.
Edit: There was one epic game on this map from today's GSL right? I forgot who was playing (BoxeR maybe), but I remember the game being good.
No tournaments do not pay anything T_T. Hope some tournaments take it upon themselves to correct this in 2012.
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On January 09 2012 19:19 Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 19:15 Tobberoth wrote:
At first impression, it looks like a bad map for Zerg. Watching Nerchio vs WhiteRa on it, it looks extremely weak for Zerg. Then again, Nerchio played horribly against WhiteRa, so who knows. It definitely looks like Entombed Valley though, only difference being that there is no wide open space in the middle, less space behind bases for muta, and no rocks between nat and third.
Yeah, definitely looks imbalanced for Zerg, but we'll have to wait and see. As someone that switched to Zerg I still have to imagine the advantage of lots and lots of ground flanking routes outweighs the hard to take 3rd. I feel like muta might be a bad choice on the map, something like Bane/Line/Infestor or Ling/Roach/Infestor or whatever.
I wouldn't want to ZvT or ZvP on a map that has a lot of choke points, makes mutas nonviable, and has a hard to defend third* even if I could flank. I mean you can flank on any map.
edit: *honestly, as a zerg player, those are the primary reasons I would thumbs down any given map (aside from rush distance).
I'd have to play the map to really form my opinion, but if what you're saying is true, it at least sounds like a bad map for Z.
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Love that there is no empty air on this, makes it better to stop drops.
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I hope we see "User-Made" Maps on Ladder. Blizzard could use their mapmakers for other stuff and just use the great community-maps on ladder.
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On January 09 2012 10:47 Tyrant0 wrote:
The middle of the map resembles a BW map but I can't quite remember the name.
Blue Storm? They look nothing alike aside from the huge middle path with elevated ground on both sides.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/159_Blue_Storm
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Anyways, great to see this in the GSL. It's good for zerg if you have a 200/200 crackling fetish. Aside from that it is noticeably Zerg disadvantaged compared to P or T.
It's P favoured for P v Terran Bio however because it's forcefield-friendly everywhere on the map.
That being said, I don't feel it's that racially imbalanced compared to the other maps in that competition.
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Played tons of games on it and I love it!
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I am not gonna spoil anything, but the first GSL game played on this map (code S), was just epic. and the map looks stunning and solid. Hope that the players find it balanced and it would be exposed to international tournaments too.
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I feel like air play will be pretty weak on this map because of the direct paths to enemy and lack of space behind , but I don't know if that's bad for any particular race, it might just promote more styles.
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On January 09 2012 22:46 bbm wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 11:56 neobowman wrote:On January 09 2012 11:50 Chill wrote:
ONE thing that history has taught me is that nobody can predict how maps will play out. So stop trying. The proof will be in the pudding soon enough. Pretty much. As a BW mapper and SC2 mapper, you find that your maps never play out the way you expect them to. Even the best mappers can't predict what'll happen (cough, Battle Royal) And Protoss4ever is awesome. What's up with those stats? I never followed broodwar or anything, but 0 PvPs and 71 ZvZs? huh?
The only way to win as the other races would be to cheese. Even Flash lost to a mediocre Zerg on that map.
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Congrats to SUPEROUMAN and ESV!
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the new map pool is awesome!
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On January 09 2012 10:47 Tyrant0 wrote:
The middle of the map resembles a BW map but I can't quite remember the name.
match point i think not 100% tho.
map looks really nice for all races but as chill said we dont know till there have been a lot of matches on it
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On January 10 2012 05:02 SeaSwift wrote:
I feel like air play will be pretty weak on this map because of the direct paths to enemy and lack of space behind , but I don't know if that's bad for any particular race, it might just promote more styles.
Yep TvP air for me is like impossible  The main is really well tucked in and like you said there's so many ground paths and not much air units can use to abuse the terrain.
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On January 10 2012 03:31 Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 23:07 Roberi wrote:
I'm curious, do mapmakers get money for these maps? If so, about how much can one get? Obviously it's a great honor to have the map featured in these kinds of tournaments. I'm just wondering.
Edit: There was one epic game on this map from today's GSL right? I forgot who was playing (BoxeR maybe), but I remember the game being good. No tournaments do not pay anything T_T. Hope some tournaments take it upon themselves to correct this in 2012.
Would that actually be allowed by Blizzard?
It wouldn't suprise me if that was against the terms of use or whatever... :s
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On January 09 2012 11:54 LuckyMacro wrote:"This map looks terran favored" Tradition since bw days  ahahaha.
Ya, but it is usually terran that make most of the map if it is good for tank area control and denial and drops.
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Congratz, it's a cool map!
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On January 10 2012 05:58 Vorenius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 03:31 Diamond wrote:On January 09 2012 23:07 Roberi wrote:
I'm curious, do mapmakers get money for these maps? If so, about how much can one get? Obviously it's a great honor to have the map featured in these kinds of tournaments. I'm just wondering.
Edit: There was one epic game on this map from today's GSL right? I forgot who was playing (BoxeR maybe), but I remember the game being good. No tournaments do not pay anything T_T. Hope some tournaments take it upon themselves to correct this in 2012. Would that actually be allowed by Blizzard? It wouldn't suprise me if that was against the terms of use or whatever... :s
Its fine with Blizz.
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What I like about this map is that there's land that actually FILLS the entire map and not have stupid big extra space where ground units can't reach. Most maps these days have those stupid big spaces and that's what makes the maps much smaller than they should be.
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Just for shits put your settings up to Ultra on this map...the atmosphere is surreal. I find it really hard to play like that though.
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On January 10 2012 03:31 Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 23:07 Roberi wrote:
I'm curious, do mapmakers get money for these maps? If so, about how much can one get? Obviously it's a great honor to have the map featured in these kinds of tournaments. I'm just wondering.
Edit: There was one epic game on this map from today's GSL right? I forgot who was playing (BoxeR maybe), but I remember the game being good. No tournaments do not pay anything T_T. Hope some tournaments take it upon themselves to correct this in 2012.
How much would you expect to be paid per map for a tournament, just out of interest?
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