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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
January 05 2012 15:19 GMT
#181
At first I thought you were serious then I thought you might be a Baller alt account
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Insomni7
Profile Joined June 2011
667 Posts
January 05 2012 15:19 GMT
#182
People really need to stop trolling. The more people who play along the greater the chance that we are overrun by crappy copycat threads.
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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
January 05 2012 15:23 GMT
#183
I hope HotS will fix the imbalance of the Bibbit wall-in.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
January 05 2012 15:27 GMT
#184
On January 06 2012 00:19 Insomni7 wrote:
People really need to stop trolling. The more people who play along the greater the chance that we are overrun by crappy copycat threads.


agreed. down with fun!
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 05 2012 15:32 GMT
#185
there is absolutely no reason for this 3rd nexus as part of the wall.

In HotS, that will be more reasonable, but at the moment, its more of a waste than you acutally gain with it -,-
+ your "normal" nexuswall and your rampwall pics are rly, rly bad executed walls.
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kanada
Profile Joined May 2007
Canada255 Posts
January 05 2012 15:47 GMT
#186
i will be trying this next time i random toss.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
January 05 2012 15:48 GMT
#187
On January 05 2012 23:26 Paljas wrote:
The only thing i really do not like is the fact, that the expensive Nexus wont allow you to canonrush the zerg.
Therefore, i would suggest this brilliant new Ramp wall-offs.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


and

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Best wall ever!

P.S. I put pictures as spoilers to not have a huge post.
Iatrik
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany159 Posts
January 05 2012 15:48 GMT
#188
Hm..
I honestly don't know if it's total trash or a solid way to play.

Pros:
- Your workers are harder to harass with Mutas/Helions/Storms/Ravens etc..
- You have more space to defend harass. (Your own wall won't block you)
- Strong against busts
- Might make a blind Nexus first viable.

Cons:
- You need more workers to cover your mineral line
- Your Nexus is very exposed once you get into the mid game.
- FFE will take more time to be effective.

Since 3 pros are avoidable by just playing good, the only pro left is: "Might make a blind Nexus first viable".
Because a FFE like that will take more time to be effective, you could just make a standard wall.

So: Trash!

I can see a macro nexus as part of a strategy and wall at the same time.
Like walling your 3rd with a 4rd nexus or wall your 2nd with a 3rd and use your additional chrono boosts to get into your old tech-timings.

But this? No!
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Forbidden17
Profile Joined December 2011
666 Posts
January 05 2012 15:55 GMT
#189
On January 06 2012 00:48 Iatrik wrote:
Hm..
I honestly don't know if it's total trash or a solid way to play.

Pros:
- Your workers are harder to harass with Mutas/Helions/Storms/Ravens etc..
- You have more space to defend harass. (Your own wall won't block you)
- Strong against busts
- Might make a blind Nexus first viable.

Cons:
- You need more workers to cover your mineral line
- Your Nexus is very exposed once you get into the mid game.
- FFE will take more time to be effective.

Since 3 pros are avoidable by just playing good, the only pro left is: "Might make a blind Nexus first viable".
Because a FFE like that will take more time to be effective, you could just make a standard wall.

So: Trash!

I can see a macro nexus as part of a strategy and wall at the same time.
Like walling your 3rd with a 4rd nexus or wall your 2nd with a 3rd and use your additional chrono boosts to get into your old tech-timings.

But this? No!

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ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 15:59:48
January 05 2012 15:59 GMT
#190
Oh nvm, I get it.

EDIT.
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Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
January 05 2012 16:03 GMT
#191
First 2 are not tight and the one with Nexus... serious?
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Rockztar
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark210 Posts
January 05 2012 16:04 GMT
#192
LMAO hilarious. :D
Although you could use the Nexus in the wall-in as a sort of "macro-hatch-Nexus" for more probe production untill you can move out and take the other bases lolol.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 16:07:29
January 05 2012 16:05 GMT
#193
On January 05 2012 22:25 bGr.MetHiX wrote:
china is the next mongolia? haha what did u even mean with that?


It's a TL inside joke. He was poking fun at you because you didn't "get it."
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Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
January 05 2012 16:39 GMT
#194
Clever; I like that. Plus, now you can saturate very quickly and take an early third. Or just put some cannons at your third and use that second nexus for both bases!

My favorite wall-offs are:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
I call that one the Intimidator. Someone rolls up to your ramp, sees all 3 tech routes with upgrades being chronoboosted, they're going to say "fuck this base, I'm attacking somewhere else". Hence the order of buildings, FTB. On top of that, you boldly declare that you could make DTs, but you don't really feel like it right now. Not pictured: the zealot is 3/3/3.

and
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
I call that one the Confuse-o-tron 8000. In case it's not clear from the picture, that's a maze of DT shrines, not a random jumble of them. The only path is a single hex opening that snakes back and forth between the rows of buildings. Nobody's going to mess with that. Not pictured: the mothership just off-screen (it made the screenshot too confusing). If anyone tries to break down the walls of your maze, cloak it! An invisible maze of buildings which unlock invisible units is pretty much guaranteed to reduce your opponent and his units to gibbering madness.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3683 Posts
January 05 2012 16:45 GMT
#195
Good troll, I like what you did there, text was also pretty hilarious. Thought you were srs for a sec, but damn only 50 probes to saturate a base, damn.
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
January 05 2012 16:58 GMT
#196
I don't know what you guys are all on about, I'm pretty sure within a few years everyone will be doing this.
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anxiouspanda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States56 Posts
January 05 2012 17:01 GMT
#197
wait.. this isn't new.. more people have walled like this than the wall at the ramp since the map came out
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
January 05 2012 17:02 GMT
#198
On January 06 2012 01:58 Zelniq wrote:
I don't know what you guys are all on about, I'm pretty sure within a few years everyone will be doing this.

This man speaks wise words. Listen to TL people.
BamBam
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
745 Posts
January 05 2012 17:06 GMT
#199
On January 06 2012 00:23 [F_]aths wrote:
I hope HotS will fix the imbalance of the Bibbit wall-in.

Are you kidding? Blizzard clearly wants us to do this wall-in style, that's why they are adding the warp-in and the cannon ability to the nexus, that way the nexus can actually become one gigantic invinsible cannon when used as part of a wall off.

If anything, Bitbit is ahead of his time - a true genious in starcraft.
"two is way better than twice as one" - artosis
KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
January 05 2012 17:12 GMT
#200
but , it doesnt seem very profitable
ur pro or ur noob , thats life
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