Wall-in on Arid. I think I could do a bit better at the top, but the pylon + core = ling-tight side entrance.

Edit: Actually, yes, the top part of this wall-in is a little silly. I could've moved the gateway up a little and then the top cannon to the right -_-

Either way, this works. The side can be blocked off entirely with a cannon and a core, which is the part people were unsure about.

Probe1

United States17920 Posts

December 15 2011 08:07 GMT

#362

On December 15 2011 15:09 dnld12 wrote:
They still need to add rocks to Gold mineral bases OR take them out

How did you do this.

Termit

Sweden3466 Posts

December 15 2011 08:09 GMT

#363

On December 15 2011 17:07 Probe1 wrote:

Show nested quote +

How did you do this.

He is right. They should probably put rocks on your main ramp too so you are safer to cheese and can get into long macro games!

FlukyS

Ireland485 Posts

December 15 2011 08:11 GMT

#364

No gold bases on those maps I like but they still have a few gold base maps which is annoying why dont they just get rid of all of them :-/

arbitrageur

Australia1202 Posts

December 15 2011 08:18 GMT

#365

Blizzard is FINALLY listening to the GM/Master's communities' map demands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

show.me

Sweden37 Posts

December 15 2011 08:32 GMT

#366

Awesome that they are adding new maps but still.. I'm really tired of the old ones. I want like five new maps

Logros

Netherlands9913 Posts

December 15 2011 08:34 GMT

#367

I'm glad they removed those shite maps...those new one are so ugly compared to the TL MM competition

MVTaylor

United Kingdom2893 Posts

December 15 2011 08:34 GMT

#368

Horizontal spawns on Entombed looks like an interesting third base to take...

Also I'd have thought they'd have learnt from Shakuras that an expansion which has two ramps to it both blocked by destructible rocks is just a nothing feature, it never really becomes relevant except on stupidly long games or when one player is so far ahead...

Also I really don't like this double downward ramp in to expansion stuff especially where a 3rd / 4th location is ambiguous...

caradoc

Canada3022 Posts

December 15 2011 08:34 GMT

#369

On December 15 2011 13:50 coL.drewbie wrote:
i like the new maps, but i really hate big 4 player maps where you have to scout all the other bases ( tal darim / antiga ) so much. so i hope this new 4 player map isn't too big or only has 1 or 2 possible spawn locations

that 4-player map looks like it has a really long scout distance due to the main being way at the back of two ramps.

Mowr

Sweden791 Posts

December 15 2011 08:43 GMT

#370

2 player map sucks if you aren't Deezer and that natural is horribly abusable. Great work on encouraging onebasing Blizzard.

Speake

United States494 Posts

December 15 2011 08:46 GMT

#371

Entombed valley is going to be absolutely impossible tvp, maybe even worse than eye of the storm tbh

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

December 15 2011 08:47 GMT

#372

the amount of destructible rocks makes me think browder had a good day or two.

Monocle

United States1509 Posts

December 15 2011 08:48 GMT

#373

FFE was so nice on Abyssal Caverns and Nerazim, and looks impossible on these maps. Ugh.

ladyumbra

Canada1699 Posts

December 15 2011 08:50 GMT

#374

On December 15 2011 17:47 iNcontroL wrote:
the amount of destructible rocks makes me think browder had a good day or two.

I am so sad this wasn't revealed earlier I would have loved your drunken opinion on the maps on sotg.

Bulkers

Poland509 Posts

December 15 2011 08:56 GMT

#375

Arid Plateau is pretty much a Xel'Naga Caverns... I dont like it because you cant forge expand

Entombed Valley, 2nd ramp pretty big = very hard to forge fast expand

That means I'll probably "Thumbs down" new maps + Xel'naga... I dont get it how Blizzard is so stubborn and did not take any maps from GSL (CALM BEFORE THE STORM FFS), dont get me wrong I still see progress from steppes of war and other maps but its still not even for all races. A lot of Pro protoss players said that if P dont Forge fast expand in PvZ then its almost impossible to win (f.e Naniwa) I agree its not maybe auto lose but your very behind (and 1g + exp is bad)

Exarl25

1887 Posts

December 15 2011 08:59 GMT

#376

Arid looks like a nightmare PvZ, going to be so difficult to safely take the natural.

Exempt.

United States470 Posts

December 15 2011 09:04 GMT

#377

those 2 blizzard maps actually look pretty fun and particularly balanced/interesting at least at a first glance compared to previous seasons.

Edit: Didnt think about FFE, zvp seems easier on these 2 maps, although the entombed one has plenty of chokes, probably a lot of 3gate and 6 gate timings.

Seeker

Where dat snitch at?37058 Posts

December 15 2011 09:05 GMT

#378

I AM SO FREAKING GLAD OF THESE CHANGES!!!!

I hated Abysmal Caverns

And I hate Nerazim Kryptonite.....

ugh..... asdjkfasl;djfakl;sdjfkl;ajsdf

New maps look fun though : ]

HaXXspetten

Sweden15718 Posts

December 15 2011 09:11 GMT

#379

Finally rid of Abyssal Caverns

Nerazim was ok, but nothing special.

New maps look... interesting, only one way to find out if they're good or not I guess.
Plateau looks cool, but I fear the gameplay on it won't be.
Entombed Valley is looking sweet though

Champi

1422 Posts

December 15 2011 09:12 GMT

#380

removed the 2 maps i had vetoed, and bringing in 2 new maps to veto.

life goes on