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SkimGuy
Canada709 Posts
On December 19 2011 07:11 vasculaR wrote: Does anyone here really think their "right" opinion is going to be accepted by everyone in the community? Why are we still discussing this. T_T Cause unfortunately people love drama | ||
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Galleon.frigate
Canada721 Posts
On December 19 2011 06:16 yotis wrote: Not taking any sides here but: "Not only progamers, but professional athletes in every sports prove and showcase their skill through the game ..." Your example is stupid therefore your argument is invalid. Can't understand how can GOM compare athletics to Blizzcup. In athletics, when you lose, you're out for good. At least make valid points next time, thanks. ya never have two soccer teams played a friendly match, or a meaningless match because they were both eleminated from the group states of the WORLD CUP... the largest single sporting turny on the planet.... anyways... if you agree with gom or not, don't jump on one point, call them stupid. grr | ||
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nokz88
Brazil1253 Posts
Gomtv gave the code S seed to someone else, Naniwa apologized, and he is now clear to participate in GSL after the next one. Arguing about technicalities, when the true heart of the issue have been resolved, is being unreasonable and dumb. Let it go. Life goes on. Learn to pay for your mistakes. Quit beating the dead horse. | ||
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KaptenCulpa
Sweden29 Posts
Since MLG has said that GOM had the right to change their mind about if the code S was going to be a price after the tournament, we are in a situation where MLG promised a price and said that Nani recived it, and because of there deal with GOM they can no longer deliver said price. This gives MLG a problem. They promised a price without saying that it might not happen if GOM changed their mind sometime after the turnament. Since they cant deliver what they said they did they should compensate Naniwa in some form. This speaks volumes about what GOM feel about MLG. We really can let go what Nani did cause GOM has said it wasn't against rules and they didn't punish him, cause they cant take away something they never gave him in the firstplace. MLG should be pissed at GOM and try to make them give Nani code S so that they can full fill their obligations, if they cant they need to apolagice for not giving out the prize and compendate him. I am not saying I blame MLG in all this. I am sure they didn't see GOM going back on the deal(a little naive but still understandable). But they are the one having promised a prize and not delivered it. They need for there reputations stake compensate Naniwa even do they have been screwed over by GOM. We need to be able to trust that MLG does outmost to deliver the prizes they promised. <3 MLG but they need to do this So Nani loosing code S no longer has nothing to do with Naniwas actions in blizcup. | ||
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IBeta
United States77 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10342 Posts
We see walkovers and forfeits in every tournament... Even no-call-no-shows. GOM should have allowed NaNiwa to forfeit in the first place. As for all of the events that happened afterwards... There's not much new I can add. | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On December 19 2011 07:23 IBeta wrote: Completely retarded to revoke his code s spot. He earned that spot and he should be able to do whatever he wants with it. What if he would of won with the probe rush or 4 gated/6gated yotta yotta. Its bbull. Read the statements. He never had a code S spot, what he won from providence was a spot in blizzardcup which had as big of a prize pool and much less competition. He could not have won with the probe rush. #1 a probe rush will never win in any league above bronze, it's a fact. #2 he took his hands off the keyboard and just waited for all his probes to die, he had 0% chance of winning. | ||
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Almetien
Poland43 Posts
That's the logic out there. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
Did something else happen? | ||
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Papulatus
United States669 Posts
On December 19 2011 07:37 windsupernova wrote: Wow you guys are still discussing this? Did something else happen? http://twitter.com/#!/TylerWasieleski/status/148498879501975552 That happened. Thanks Tyler....................................... | ||
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Sandermatt
Switzerland1365 Posts
On December 19 2011 07:26 hunts wrote: Read the statements. He never had a code S spot, what he won from providence was a spot in blizzardcup which had as big of a prize pool and much less competition. He could not have won with the probe rush. #1 a probe rush will never win in any league above bronze, it's a fact. #2 he took his hands off the keyboard and just waited for all his probes to die, he had 0% chance of winning. He was promised the Code S spot by MLG. | ||
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Kieofire
United States1809 Posts
On December 19 2011 07:49 Sandermatt wrote: He was promised the Code S spot by MLG. But never by GOM, all of this has been said already. It is just so useless to still be going on about this. | ||
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On December 19 2011 07:54 Kieofire wrote: But never by GOM, all of this has been said already. It is just so useless to still be going on about this. The exchange program was announced on gomtv.net also. They changed the prize without telling anyone else. Apparently MLG don't know how to write contracts properly. | ||
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Jackle
Canada859 Posts
On December 19 2011 07:24 MountainDewJunkie wrote: What kind of tournament doesn't allow players to forfeit if they so please? We see walkovers and forfeits in every tournament... Even no-call-no-shows. GOM should have allowed NaNiwa to forfeit in the first place. As for all of the events that happened afterwards... There's not much new I can add. Hey, guess what, he was asked on LiveOnThree if he asked for a forfeit, and he infact did not. http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/302625376 @30:20 Also, GOM never offered because in Korea, forfeiting is unheard of. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On December 19 2011 07:17 nokz88 wrote: Is this shitstorm still going on? geez people... Gomtv gave the code S seed to someone else, Naniwa apologized, and he is now clear to participate in GSL after the next one. Arguing about technicalities, when the true heart of the issue have been resolved, is being unreasonable and dumb. Let it go. Life goes on. Learn to pay for your mistakes. Quit beating the dead horse. Should people say this about things like SOPA if it passes too? Shit happens its unfair and unprofessional but it happened so its ok. | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On December 19 2011 08:14 Eppa! wrote: Should people say this about things like SOPA if it passes too? Shit happens its unfair and unprofessional but it happened so its ok. Are you really comparing naniwa not being considered for a possible code S spot anymore to SOPA? Really? | ||
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Sandermatt
Switzerland1365 Posts
On December 19 2011 07:54 Kieofire wrote: But never by GOM, all of this has been said already. It is just so useless to still be going on about this. GOM announced that Providence will provide a Code S spot in their initial statement. (As far as I know the exchange programm was announced on both sides). That they can change that was not made public. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On December 19 2011 08:06 Jackle wrote: Hey, guess what, he was asked on LiveOnThree if he asked for a forfeit, and he infact did not. http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/302625376 @30:20 Also, GOM never offered because in Korea, forfeiting is unheard of. I finally get an answer to this question. So many people were saying he'd asked but GOM had refused. Asking to forfeit would have been, imo, the most sensible way to do this. | ||
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yotis
Czech Republic652 Posts
On December 19 2011 06:55 jinorazi wrote: imagine what kind of shit player/coach would get from fans if they were down in points, no way of making it out of the group stage in the world cup so they decided to own goal throughout the last game, or to just walk off the field to show their displeasure.\ i'm sure FIFA would step in and say something too. as gom stated, and as many, many people agree, winning and money isn't everything. Agree winning money is not everything. But as I said comparing starcraft to athletics is comparing apples to oranges. I respect that they don't want him to play in their tournament. On December 19 2011 07:17 Galleon.frigate wrote: ya never have two soccer teams played a friendly match, or a meaningless match because they were both eleminated from the group states of the WORLD CUP... the largest single sporting turny on the planet.... anyways... if you agree with gom or not, don't jump on one point, call them stupid. grr I indeed did not and as stated above starcraft isn't football and never will be and should not be compared. And I never called them stupid, just that comparing athletics to this situation is stupid. | ||
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Govou
Canada1072 Posts
from about 8:20 my sentiment | ||
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