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An article on Naniwa from Thisisgame - Page 5

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TheBamf
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark366 Posts
December 13 2011 14:04 GMT
#81
Good article, I am looking forward to the winer interviews.
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paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
December 13 2011 14:04 GMT
#82
how is this any different than idra regularly throwing the 7/8 (or similar) place matches in mlgs?
JonB
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden325 Posts
December 13 2011 14:04 GMT
#83
even though i think what he did was wrong, he is by definiton a progamer.
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Kireak
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden358 Posts
December 13 2011 14:05 GMT
#84
On December 13 2011 22:54 nokz88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 22:50 frede wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:45 Reaper9 wrote:
As I mentioned in the other thread, Europeans and Americans to this very day still under-estimate countries whose culture does not revolve around theirs. This is going to get VERY bad flack from the Korean community. And they can say whatever they want about Naniwa, because at this point, he collectively insulted them. I hate repeating myself, but that's how it is.


The Koreans did the same/ worse things in BW foreign tournaments so them getting pissed about this seems quite ironic.

lol like what? ROFLSTOMPING through everyone and making them look like a fool? That's ok in my book.


Like playing on eachothers accounts because no one could tell?

Its funny how people put Korea so high up on a pedistal when they dont have any idea how the buisness works. Its not better then anywhere else, if anything its worse.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 14:06:02
December 13 2011 14:05 GMT
#85
On December 13 2011 23:04 paschl wrote:
how is this any different than idra regularly throwing the 7/8 (or similar) place matches in mlgs?


placement matches aren't broadcast.
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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
December 13 2011 14:05 GMT
#86
On December 13 2011 22:44 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
We swear that calling Naniwa a pro-gamer is overrating him. Even considering that he is young and free-style minded foreign player, he forgot to remember that pro-gamers are meant to show the best games out of their ability to fans.

Does he make most of his money from gaming? Yes.
Is he therefore a pro-gamer? Yes.

This is moronic. It's like saying that calling Mario Balotelli a pro-footballer is "overrating him" because he does stupid shit. NaNiWa is a pro-gamer whether you like his attitude or not.

You no understand!!111 Koreans never get out of discipline and they never ever throw games either!!111 So, they really qualify for commenting that calling Naniwa a progamer would be overrated.
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Lutto
Profile Joined September 2009
Sweden198 Posts
December 13 2011 14:05 GMT
#87
talk about people going bongos about something that isnt even close to the hype/hate what it should be..
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nekoconeco
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia359 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 14:06:25
December 13 2011 14:05 GMT
#88
On December 13 2011 23:01 kurrysauce wrote:
I turned off the stream as soon as the top 3 were decided . Sorry but the rest of the games didn't matter to me . I'm still confused on why people are taking this so seriously...


Some people must have though they would play for real. Most experienced fans know otherwise this stuff happens all the time although it is usually not as in your face.
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Alvis
Profile Joined July 2011
876 Posts
December 13 2011 14:05 GMT
#89
Can anyone translate what nestea said in twitter?
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
December 13 2011 14:05 GMT
#90
Thank you CryingPoo for the translation and showing the Korean reaction to Naniwa throwing the game. Your efforts are appreciated. Those that want to defend Naniwa, go to ... this thread or here.
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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
December 13 2011 14:06 GMT
#91
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 13 2011 14:06 GMT
#92
On December 13 2011 23:06 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 22:45 Reaper9 wrote:
As I mentioned in the other thread, Europeans and Americans to this very day still under-estimate countries whose culture does not revolve around theirs. This is going to get VERY bad flack from the Korean community. And they can say whatever they want about Naniwa, because at this point, he collectively insulted them. I hate repeating myself, but that's how it is.

Then perhaps the Koreans should understand that NaNiWa isn't Korean and thus has different standards to them. They should then hold him to his own standards instead of holding him to their own. Holding people outside your own culture to your culture's standards and then crucifying them for it is incredibly arrogant.

Naniwa is a guest in their home. Not the other way around.
RAPiDCasting
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)594 Posts
December 13 2011 14:07 GMT
#93
I'm sorry, but I see all the "professional organizations" (Gom, mlg, tl, quantic) taking austere positions of "o.0 --> >:|" but doesn't part of the blame fall to GOM? Their tournament structure is fundamentally flawed and puts players in a bad position.

A similar situation happened with ESV's Korean Weekly, and ESV.Diamond even had the honesty to admit that he was looking into a tournament structure that would prevent this kind of conflict of interests from coming about.
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Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
December 13 2011 14:07 GMT
#94
Awful article. I am disgusted by the Korean community and its hypocritical moralistic attitude. I lost a lot of respect for MVP and Choya for their tweets as well. Nanis decision was plain stupid but these reactions are even worse.
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Insurrectionist
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway141 Posts
December 13 2011 14:07 GMT
#95
On December 13 2011 23:01 Malakov wrote:
It's the last game of World Cup group stage, neither team can make it through to the round of 16. Do you ever see the teams walk out on the field and kick the ball in their own net?

No.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germany_v_Austria_(1982)

Way worse (in that it mattered), and it happened. Of course, because A: it mattered, and B: the audience was stuck watching for 90 minutes instead of being done in 2, it had consequences, but it happened all the same with no real negative consequence (improved laws of the game).
Muffler
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden6 Posts
December 13 2011 14:07 GMT
#96
Come on, it was Nestea's birthday!
NorthernRiver
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden107 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 14:11:33
December 13 2011 14:07 GMT
#97
Wow that's really harsh. Naniwa became as good as he is because of one thing: HE WANTS TO WIN. If he can't win he won't play, so people should stop bitching about this and instead blame the tournament for the poor format.
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126Q;A1
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden517 Posts
December 13 2011 14:08 GMT
#98
Wow, talk about an unobjective piece of "journalism" xD
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Focuspants
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada780 Posts
December 13 2011 14:08 GMT
#99
I think the point is that SC2 is trying to establish itself as a professionl (E)sport. In any sport, you need to think about the others involved in every game, interview, etc... There are sponsors and a team behind you, paying for you to be a pro gamer, and go to tournaments. There is a sponsor hosting the tournament, willign to give you a nice paycheque for playing well. There are viewers who went to see you play live. There are viewers who PAID MONEY to watch you play. There are fans around the world, that want to see you do your best, and give them a reason to cheer for you.

Aside from this, there are other things, like betting and such, that require there to be integrity in your games.

This stuff isnt acceptable in any sport, and if SC2 wants to be taken seriously, it needs to be unacceptable in it as well. Defending these actions is being naive. Youre undermining all of those that had money and time invested in the game. On the surface, it may seem like "one stupid game that didnt matter anyway", but there are many factors at play, that make this kind of disrespectful behaviour (to the sport, to the opponent, to the sponsors, and to the viewers) unaceptable.
ElusoryX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Singapore2047 Posts
December 13 2011 14:08 GMT
#100
naniwa still has my support. he is, to me, more of a personality than a player to me (even though it's quite badass at being a player as well).
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