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WhileOne
Qatar8 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:09 Blasterion wrote: Pro-Player = Professional player. Lose the professionalism, he's just a player pro·fes·sion·al [pruh-fesh-uh-nl] Show IPA adjective 1. following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain: a professional builder. You were saying? | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:10 TheBanana wrote: To me this is displaying in pure body language how a meaningless game feels like for someone truly competitive. A meaningless game is still a match, he doesn't respect the match, he doesn't respect his opponent. That just means he doesn't have what it takes to be truly competitive | ||
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aderum
Sweden1459 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:09 Blasterion wrote: Pro-Player = Professional player. Lose the professionalism, he's just a player LOL no. Being a pro in anything means you can make a living of it. Has nothing to do with how good manner you have. Its like saying John McEnroe isnt a pro-tennis player for being a douche on the field sometimes. | ||
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OlDan
Austria36 Posts
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aderum
Sweden1459 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:16 OlDan wrote: TBH, I totally agree with this. You need to realize that people actually pay for watching him - or other pros - play. It's like showing up for work and not doing anything. Getting fired is the norm in such cases. Remember people, this is his job and he needs to take it seriously for the sake of the PAYING customers. Actually no. He is not there to entertain you, he is there to win. Its GOMs job to entertain you. | ||
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zala2023
United States228 Posts
lold at this comment at least idra takes the game seriously and only start bming/ranting after he loses, naniwa can learn from that | ||
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zala2023
United States228 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:17 aderum wrote: Actually no. He is not there to entertain you, he is there to win. Its GOMs job to entertain you. why is why GOM TV punished him | ||
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Malkavian183
Turkey227 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:09 Blasterion wrote: Pro-Player = Professional player. Lose the professionalism, he's just a player actually professional means doing something as a profession which means doing something to earn your life. but i don't think what GOM did was exaggerated. it was silly of him to do what he did. being in an amateur tournament may mean for you to forfeit your games. but this is a pro-game which means you play not only to win but for people to watch and enjoy. i like naniwa's play quite a lot but it was very laughable for him to act like that. he deserves this imo. | ||
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OlDan
Austria36 Posts
This. Exactly. | ||
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UnholyRai
720 Posts
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Flowjo
United States928 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:24 UnholyRai wrote: oh god this whole event is so embarrassing for the koreans, they need to stop overreacting. jesus christ, they're acting as if he killed a child or something. cause if Naniwa killed a child, first thing first is to take away the Code S? I think GOMTV made the right choice, he completely disrespected Gom and (some) fans | ||
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Dingbat911
Denmark4 Posts
Naniwa could either accept that it was meaningless and play the game or he could actually do something about it, which he did. That takes courage. And btw why didn't Bratok & Stephano get any negative comments for trying to lose on purpose, because none of them wanted to play Sen? Naniwa, you might have lost some fans by your forfeiting move, but you gained this player as one! | ||
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Spiders
United States86 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:27 Flowjo wrote: cause if Naniwa killed a child, first thing first is to take away the Code S? I think GOMTV made the right choice, he completely disrespected Gom and (some) fans They first disrespected him by having a terrible tournament format with useless games. And he didn't disrespect anyone, he played the game he wanted to play. | ||
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ejozl
Denmark3544 Posts
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Mjolnir
912 Posts
I get their decision. Naniwa "gave up" because he was pouting that he didn't do well. GOMTV and perhaps the culture of Korea (where this took place I assume) expect more from someone as a "pro-player". Maybe they believe that a "pro" never quits and always does their best. I can see that, especially when people pay money to watch. From a business standpoint, he could be viewed as unreliable and only likely to produce top efforts when things are already going his way. Based on effort in similar situations, who would you want to hire, Boxer or Naniwa? Naniwa whines often (true) and apparently gives up. Boxer says squat and always plays his ass off "for his fans." I'd be pissed at Naniwa too. It was bad form. They guy is a good player but he's got some stuff to sort out personality-wise. | ||
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Chunhyang
Bangladesh1389 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:39 WhileOne wrote: No you're not. He's a professional gamer whether you like it or not. He is very good, if not the best, at SC2, so you can't really argue whether or not he's a pro-gamer no matter how much you might dislike him. Maybe the point is that he's not professional. The adjective, not the noun. | ||
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DanceSC
United States751 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:24 UnholyRai wrote: oh god this whole event is so embarrassing for the koreans, they need to stop overreacting. jesus christ, they're acting as if he killed a child or something. I think they made the right decision. He clearly disrespected all of his fans and the esports community. Game throwing was not tolerated with CoCa, nor is it in any other sport. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
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Caltrop
Sweden34 Posts
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Strivers
United States358 Posts
for the ones defending naniwa, i bet 99% of you are probably foreigners just trying to "keep it real" rather than having sound judgement, which is even more pathetic | ||
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