Also if you're going to talk about people throwing games you better look at Cella too, he purposely lost at gsl qualifiers. Or Nestea at blizzcon. Fuck this shit.

Logros

Netherlands9913 Posts

December 13 2011 13:48 GMT

#27

On 13th December, one participant of Blizzcup, Naniwa, made everyone upset at the studio. Some staff members were not only panicked but outraged about what Naniwa did.

Lol this is such an overreaction. Someone who was in the GOM studio even posted in the LR thread that they didn't care.

Also lost respect for the MVP team. When he was there they didn't even bother to play 1 serious game with Naniwa and now they blame him!?

Azzur

Australia6252 Posts

December 13 2011 13:48 GMT

#28

If Naniwa had done some half-hearted 4-gate, a proxy 2-gate or even a cannon-cheese and lost, he wouldn't have caught any flak from it. Surprisingly, he does something absolutely ridiculous when there's so many other reasonable short-game options. Anyways... this shows a lot of immaturity and unprofessionalism (and stupidity as well).

I like the line the article where Idra is like an angel compared to Naniwa lol

FallDownMarigold

United States3710 Posts

December 13 2011 13:49 GMT

#29

On December 13 2011 22:46 robih wrote:
its just pathetic how they make a big deal out of nothing

"Nothing" to you based on your values. Basically you're making fun of the Gom staff's values, and probably Korean culture in general. Classy!

frede

Germany52 Posts

December 13 2011 13:50 GMT

#30

On December 13 2011 22:45 Reaper9 wrote:
As I mentioned in the other thread, Europeans and Americans to this very day still under-estimate countries whose culture does not revolve around theirs. This is going to get VERY bad flack from the Korean community. And they can say whatever they want about Naniwa, because at this point, he collectively insulted them. I hate repeating myself, but that's how it is.

The Koreans did the same/ worse things in BW foreign tournaments so them getting pissed about this seems quite ironic.

RimasOwn

Ireland34 Posts

December 13 2011 13:50 GMT

#31

So stupid how much drama there is in him just throwing away a game. Go and watch State of the game ep 24 i think it was when Nony (liquid`Tyler) said that sc2 is a game stop being so serious .

Itsmedudeman

United States19229 Posts

December 13 2011 13:51 GMT

#32

Naniwa has had enough chances to prove that he was gonna change. This shit is getting old fast. He's lucky he didn't get banned from MLG as well.

nokz88

Brazil1253 Posts

December 13 2011 13:52 GMT

#33

I'd be really surprised if Naniwa gets to keep his code S spot after this.

Reaper9

United States1724 Posts

December 13 2011 13:52 GMT

#34

On December 13 2011 22:49 FallDownMarigold wrote:

Show nested quote +

"Nothing" to you based on your values. Basically you're making fun of the Gom staff's values, and probably Korean culture in general. Classy!

I won't say that I am always correct. In many cases my scope of knowledge is limited or just plain wrong. But being born into Asian descent with a stronger emphasis on Asian culture than most ABCs (American Born Chinese), I will say that this shit won't just end here.

Goibon

New Zealand8185 Posts

December 13 2011 13:52 GMT

#35

It's always been interesting to me how players in translated interviews say they "want to show good games for their fans". I always assumed it was a funny translation quirk, like perhaps the essence of what they're saying wasn't being fully captured by the translator. But now i'm beginning to think that such translations are accurate.

The obsession then with showing good games is... kinda scary. I MUST ENTERTAIN MY FANS. I can't relate. I want to see my favourite players win. And when they're in unwinnable situations i want them to go home and cry or whatever they want to do other than be forced to play more games.

Very different state of mind. Quite interesting the culture thing here. I must go to Korea some day.

Glurkenspurk

United States1915 Posts

December 13 2011 13:52 GMT

#36

On December 13 2011 22:49 FallDownMarigold wrote:

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"Nothing" to you based on your values. Basically you're making fun of the Gom staff's values, and probably Korean culture in general. Classy!

Do you know anything about Korean culture or are you just taking bits and pieces from starcraft forum posts and thinking you understand the culture of an entire country?

gregnog

United States289 Posts

December 13 2011 13:52 GMT

#37

On December 13 2011 22:50 frede wrote:

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The Koreans did the same/ worse things in BW foreign tournaments so them getting pissed about this seems quite ironic.

Seems like people have already forgotten the Nestea/MVP match fixing at Blizzcon. The 13k/6k/200 larva saved up by Nestea and he lets MVP get a pity win after his loss earlier that day. Double standard. Where was all the drama over that? Why dose the Korean scene love the illusion of competition?

ShineOnYou

93 Posts

December 13 2011 13:52 GMT

#38

I find it pretty pathetic to see all the drama whores blowing this out of proportion, get over it. He played three excellent games and everyone is talking about the game that didnt mean anything anyways... you people are just pathetic

Bagration

United States18282 Posts

December 13 2011 13:53 GMT

#39

On December 13 2011 22:50 RimasOwn wrote:
So stupid how much drama there is in him just throwing away a game. Go and watch State of the game ep 24 i think it was when Nony (liquid`Tyler) said that sc2 is a game stop being so serious .

That's what the foreign scene thinks. In Korea, this is a sport to them, and this stuff is taken seriously as messing around.

Reaper9

United States1724 Posts

December 13 2011 13:53 GMT

#40

On December 13 2011 22:50 frede wrote:

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The Koreans did the same/ worse things in BW foreign tournaments so them getting pissed about this seems quite ironic.

You better believe there is double standards, from both ends of the spectrum. We are very prideful as humans. Here we are, calling people pathetic or stupid or moronic left and right, I rest my case. Both sides are "moronic", great.