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On December 13 2011 06:03 chaynesore wrote:Ask and ye shall receive.. *graph* I expanded the x axis to show how much time is left. I find it curious how both votes rates of increase stay in proportion with each other...
Yes how very strange indeed...
lol this is such a joke
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I expanded the x axis to show how much time is left. I find it curious how both votes rates of increase stay in proportion with each other..
that's what a good bot does. it'll always be slightly better and win with a small not too obvious margin.
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Glider had a 16k lead 45 minutes ago. It's now down to 14,5k. She is gaining. But by the looks of it - with only three hours left - nowhere close to fast enough. Let's hope the bots don't pick up their pace.
98700 ESL 113329 Glider
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[QUOTE]On December 13 2011 06:02 Roscoe.964 wrote: [QUOTE]On December 13 2011 05:58 MadChem wrote: [Quote]To close out 2011, the On The Rise candidates this month are as talented and diverse as ever, including an ESL teacher, a pop culture vlogger, a skateboard videographer and a portrait artist. Vote for your favorite by December 12, and we’ll announce the partner selected on this blog on December 19. [/qoute]
Just paid a bit more attention to what yt is writing. I think they gonna choose Paperlilies ;-)[/QUOTE] why do you say that?[/QUOTE]
It looks to me like yt still wants to have saying, why should they wait until the 19 of December for announcing the winner?
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Whoa what. The graph is so close it's ridiculous.
I think we can hold out at this rate though, but it's starting to feel like one of those campaign missions where we just turtle and survive >_>
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On December 13 2011 06:03 chaynesore wrote:Ask and ye shall receive.. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MjKSy.png) I expanded the x axis to show how much time is left. I find it curious how both votes rates of increase stay in proportion with each other... EDIT: What I want to see now that I'm tracking, is another giant surge from us, to see if it surges for Jennifer at the same time.. If we can do that. We have solid proof guys. We need day9 or something.
Lol---- absolutely ridiculous, this is so obviously a bot
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On December 13 2011 06:03 chaynesore wrote:Ask and ye shall receive.. + Show Spoiler +I expanded the x axis to show how much time is left. I find it curious how both votes rates of increase stay in proportion with each other... EDIT: What I want to see now that I'm tracking, is another giant surge from us, to see if it surges for Jennifer at the same time.. If we can do that. We have solid proof guys. We need day9 or something.
Is it possible for you to provide a 3 days graph or something?
It would be really interesting
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[QUOTE]On December 13 2011 06:05 MadChem wrote: [QUOTE]On December 13 2011 06:02 Roscoe.964 wrote: [QUOTE]On December 13 2011 05:58 MadChem wrote: [Quote]To close out 2011, the On The Rise candidates this month are as talented and diverse as ever, including an ESL teacher, a pop culture vlogger, a skateboard videographer and a portrait artist. Vote for your favorite by December 12, and we’ll announce the partner selected on this blog on December 19. [/qoute]
Just paid a bit more attention to what yt is writing. I think they gonna choose Paperlilies ;-)[/QUOTE] why do you say that?[/QUOTE]
It looks to me like yt still wants to have saying, why should they wait until the 19 of December for announcing the winner?[/QUOTE] maybe to investigate anything that may come up during the contest such as what's hapenning right now?
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On December 13 2011 06:03 chaynesore wrote:Ask and ye shall receive.. + Show Spoiler +I expanded the x axis to show how much time is left. I find it curious how both votes rates of increase stay in proportion with each other... EDIT: What I want to see now that I'm tracking, is another giant surge from us, to see if it surges for Jennifer at the same time.. If we can do that. We have solid proof guys. We need day9 or something.
Graph hugging is going to be the new sport for programmers everywhere. Who can get their score closest to another entry in a random poll on the internet!
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On December 13 2011 06:03 chaynesore wrote:Ask and ye shall receive.. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MjKSy.png) I expanded the x axis to show how much time is left. I find it curious how both votes rates of increase stay in proportion with each other... EDIT: What I want to see now that I'm tracking, is another giant surge from us, to see if it surges for Jennifer at the same time.. If we can do that. We have solid proof guys. We need day9 or something.
Ummm. that second graph is really scary, it's so odd that her votes are almost perfectly proportional with ours :S
This is getting ridiculous... I really want to know WHO is botting, JennyESL (whos being all innocent and such) or YouTube, who's starting to have some odd connections with promoting education as mentionned a few posts ago..
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On December 13 2011 06:07 pPingu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 06:03 chaynesore wrote:On December 13 2011 06:00 Ariovist wrote: we need more graphs... Ask and ye shall receive.. + Show Spoiler +I expanded the x axis to show how much time is left. I find it curious how both votes rates of increase stay in proportion with each other... EDIT: What I want to see now that I'm tracking, is another giant surge from us, to see if it surges for Jennifer at the same time.. If we can do that. We have solid proof guys. We need day9 or something. Is it possible for you to provide a 3 days graph or something? It would be really interesting It would be, but no. I'm just doing this manually by refreshing every 5 mins while watching movies.. Maybe youtube has those stats...
I'll keep doing this until the comp is over though
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If we get data until 17:00 and the trend continues, I think it is pretty solid proof of botting, that if presented to yt, can't be legitimately ignored out of hand.
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If we get data until 17:00 and the trend continues, I think it is pretty solid proof of botting, that if presented to yt, can't be legitimately ignored out of hand.
as Glider said earlier. nothing will be done about it because that would be bad press. this isn't actually very important for youtube. it's only about the daily feature. they won't risk bad press about something like that.
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at first i was like
what the fuck
then i was like
WHAT THE FUCK!
and transitioned rigth into
VOTE THE FUCK!!!!!
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On December 13 2011 06:10 JOJOsc2news wrote:Show nested quote + If we get data until 17:00 and the trend continues, I think it is pretty solid proof of botting, that if presented to yt, can't be legitimately ignored out of hand.
as Glider said earlier. nothing will be done about it because that would be bad press. this isn't actually very important for youtube. it's only about the daily feature. they won't risk bad press about something like that.
possibly, but it's bad press to allow it as well, given that theres a community of several hundred thousand that's aware of it.
Can't think for them though so who knows.
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On December 13 2011 06:09 chaynesore wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 06:07 pPingu wrote:On December 13 2011 06:03 chaynesore wrote:On December 13 2011 06:00 Ariovist wrote: we need more graphs... Ask and ye shall receive.. + Show Spoiler +I expanded the x axis to show how much time is left. I find it curious how both votes rates of increase stay in proportion with each other... EDIT: What I want to see now that I'm tracking, is another giant surge from us, to see if it surges for Jennifer at the same time.. If we can do that. We have solid proof guys. We need day9 or something. Is it possible for you to provide a 3 days graph or something? It would be really interesting It would be, but no. I'm just doing this manually by refreshing every 5 mins while watching movies.. Maybe youtube has those stats... I'll keep doing this until the comp is over though
Yes, and because of this method, we should be a bit careful before we use this as evidence for bot. Imagine if your reading is a bit early or late, due to caching, you being caught up in movie, youtube page not updating votes perfectly live or something. Then you will see correlated shapes like this. If you accidentally get a too short time interval, both increments will be low, if you accidentally take a too large time, both will be high.
just saying, don't be too hot on the trigger from this graph, as the information goes through a lot of steps, and any flaw will give this signal.
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My fucking god this is going to be close as fuck >.<
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On December 13 2011 06:06 caradoc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 06:03 chaynesore wrote:On December 13 2011 06:00 Ariovist wrote: we need more graphs... Ask and ye shall receive.. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MjKSy.png) I expanded the x axis to show how much time is left. I find it curious how both votes rates of increase stay in proportion with each other... EDIT: What I want to see now that I'm tracking, is another giant surge from us, to see if it surges for Jennifer at the same time.. If we can do that. We have solid proof guys. We need day9 or something. Lol---- absolutely ridiculous, this is so obviously a bot
Can someone extrapolate the first graph to project the numbers at 5:00 please?
(Probably the most bizzare thing I've ever asked, but figured I'd put it out there.)
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ESL has only caught up by around 100 votes the last 15 minutes. This is actually looking really good.
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On December 13 2011 06:14 Cascade wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 06:09 chaynesore wrote:On December 13 2011 06:07 pPingu wrote:On December 13 2011 06:03 chaynesore wrote:On December 13 2011 06:00 Ariovist wrote: we need more graphs... Ask and ye shall receive.. + Show Spoiler +I expanded the x axis to show how much time is left. I find it curious how both votes rates of increase stay in proportion with each other... EDIT: What I want to see now that I'm tracking, is another giant surge from us, to see if it surges for Jennifer at the same time.. If we can do that. We have solid proof guys. We need day9 or something. Is it possible for you to provide a 3 days graph or something? It would be really interesting It would be, but no. I'm just doing this manually by refreshing every 5 mins while watching movies.. Maybe youtube has those stats... I'll keep doing this until the comp is over though Yes, and because of this method, we should be a bit careful before we use this as evidence for bot. Imagine if your reading is a bit early or late, due to caching, you being caught up in movie, youtube page not updating votes perfectly live or something. Then you will see correlated shapes like this. If you accidentally get a too short time interval, both increments will be low, if you accidentally take a too large time, both will be high. just saying, don't be too hot on the trigger from this graph, as the information goes through a lot of steps, and any flaw will give this signal.
Not technically true--- notice how the lines never cross-- you would predict that they would very likely cross if there was no botting. You would also predict the existence of cases where portrait art inc/5min would increase while esl inc/5min would decrease, again, doesn't happen. What you would NOT predict if this was two organic processes is a tight correlation at 5 minute intervals, which you see here.
The spiky nature of the graph is (partially) related to intervals, but that's all.
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