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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On December 13 2011 06:03 chaynesore wrote: Ask and ye shall receive.. *graph* I expanded the x axis to show how much time is left. I find it curious how both votes rates of increase stay in proportion with each other... Yes how very strange indeed... lol this is such a joke | ||
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JOJOsc2news
3000 Posts
I expanded the x axis to show how much time is left. I find it curious how both votes rates of increase stay in proportion with each other.. that's what a good bot does. it'll always be slightly better and win with a small not too obvious margin. | ||
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ribboo
Sweden1842 Posts
98700 ESL 113329 Glider | ||
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MadChem
Germany218 Posts
[QUOTE]On December 13 2011 05:58 MadChem wrote: [Quote]To close out 2011, the On The Rise candidates this month are as talented and diverse as ever, including an ESL teacher, a pop culture vlogger, a skateboard videographer and a portrait artist. Vote for your favorite by December 12, and we’ll announce the partner selected on this blog on December 19. [/qoute] Just paid a bit more attention to what yt is writing. I think they gonna choose Paperlilies ;-)[/QUOTE] why do you say that?[/QUOTE] It looks to me like yt still wants to have saying, why should they wait until the 19 of December for announcing the winner? | ||
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Draconicfire
Canada2562 Posts
I think we can hold out at this rate though, but it's starting to feel like one of those campaign missions where we just turtle and survive >_> | ||
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
On December 13 2011 06:03 chaynesore wrote: Ask and ye shall receive.. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MjKSy.png) I expanded the x axis to show how much time is left. I find it curious how both votes rates of increase stay in proportion with each other... EDIT: What I want to see now that I'm tracking, is another giant surge from us, to see if it surges for Jennifer at the same time.. If we can do that. We have solid proof guys. We need day9 or something. Lol---- absolutely ridiculous, this is so obviously a bot  | ||
pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
On December 13 2011 06:03 chaynesore wrote: Ask and ye shall receive.. + Show Spoiler + I expanded the x axis to show how much time is left. I find it curious how both votes rates of increase stay in proportion with each other... EDIT: What I want to see now that I'm tracking, is another giant surge from us, to see if it surges for Jennifer at the same time.. If we can do that. We have solid proof guys. We need day9 or something. Is it possible for you to provide a 3 days graph or something? It would be really interesting | ||
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
[QUOTE]On December 13 2011 06:02 Roscoe.964 wrote: [QUOTE]On December 13 2011 05:58 MadChem wrote: [Quote]To close out 2011, the On The Rise candidates this month are as talented and diverse as ever, including an ESL teacher, a pop culture vlogger, a skateboard videographer and a portrait artist. Vote for your favorite by December 12, and we’ll announce the partner selected on this blog on December 19. [/qoute] Just paid a bit more attention to what yt is writing. I think they gonna choose Paperlilies ;-)[/QUOTE] why do you say that?[/QUOTE] It looks to me like yt still wants to have saying, why should they wait until the 19 of December for announcing the winner?[/QUOTE] maybe to investigate anything that may come up during the contest such as what's hapenning right now? | ||
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
On December 13 2011 06:03 chaynesore wrote: Ask and ye shall receive.. + Show Spoiler + I expanded the x axis to show how much time is left. I find it curious how both votes rates of increase stay in proportion with each other... EDIT: What I want to see now that I'm tracking, is another giant surge from us, to see if it surges for Jennifer at the same time.. If we can do that. We have solid proof guys. We need day9 or something. Graph hugging is going to be the new sport for programmers everywhere. Who can get their score closest to another entry in a random poll on the internet! | ||
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AndyGB4
Canada156 Posts
On December 13 2011 06:03 chaynesore wrote: Ask and ye shall receive.. I expanded the x axis to show how much time is left. I find it curious how both votes rates of increase stay in proportion with each other... EDIT: What I want to see now that I'm tracking, is another giant surge from us, to see if it surges for Jennifer at the same time.. If we can do that. We have solid proof guys. We need day9 or something. Ummm. that second graph is really scary, it's so odd that her votes are almost perfectly proportional with ours :S This is getting ridiculous... I really want to know WHO is botting, JennyESL (whos being all innocent and such) or YouTube, who's starting to have some odd connections with promoting education as mentionned a few posts ago.. | ||
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chaynesore
Australia175 Posts
On December 13 2011 06:07 pPingu wrote: Is it possible for you to provide a 3 days graph or something? It would be really interesting It would be, but no. I'm just doing this manually by refreshing every 5 mins while watching movies.. Maybe youtube has those stats... I'll keep doing this until the comp is over though | ||
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
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JOJOsc2news
3000 Posts
If we get data until 17:00 and the trend continues, I think it is pretty solid proof of botting, that if presented to yt, can't be legitimately ignored out of hand. as Glider said earlier. nothing will be done about it because that would be bad press. this isn't actually very important for youtube. it's only about the daily feature. they won't risk bad press about something like that. | ||
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BobbyBrown
New Zealand62 Posts
what the fuck then i was like WHAT THE FUCK! and transitioned rigth into VOTE THE FUCK!!!!! | ||
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
On December 13 2011 06:10 JOJOsc2news wrote: as Glider said earlier. nothing will be done about it because that would be bad press. this isn't actually very important for youtube. it's only about the daily feature. they won't risk bad press about something like that. possibly, but it's bad press to allow it as well, given that theres a community of several hundred thousand that's aware of it. Can't think for them though so who knows. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On December 13 2011 06:09 chaynesore wrote: It would be, but no. I'm just doing this manually by refreshing every 5 mins while watching movies.. Maybe youtube has those stats... I'll keep doing this until the comp is over though Yes, and because of this method, we should be a bit careful before we use this as evidence for bot. Imagine if your reading is a bit early or late, due to caching, you being caught up in movie, youtube page not updating votes perfectly live or something. Then you will see correlated shapes like this. If you accidentally get a too short time interval, both increments will be low, if you accidentally take a too large time, both will be high. just saying, don't be too hot on the trigger from this graph, as the information goes through a lot of steps, and any flaw will give this signal. | ||
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gullberg
Sweden1301 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8302 Posts
On December 13 2011 06:06 caradoc wrote: Lol---- absolutely ridiculous, this is so obviously a bot Can someone extrapolate the first graph to project the numbers at 5:00 please? (Probably the most bizzare thing I've ever asked, but figured I'd put it out there.) | ||
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ribboo
Sweden1842 Posts
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
On December 13 2011 06:14 Cascade wrote: Yes, and because of this method, we should be a bit careful before we use this as evidence for bot. Imagine if your reading is a bit early or late, due to caching, you being caught up in movie, youtube page not updating votes perfectly live or something. Then you will see correlated shapes like this. If you accidentally get a too short time interval, both increments will be low, if you accidentally take a too large time, both will be high. just saying, don't be too hot on the trigger from this graph, as the information goes through a lot of steps, and any flaw will give this signal. Not technically true--- notice how the lines never cross-- you would predict that they would very likely cross if there was no botting. You would also predict the existence of cases where portrait art inc/5min would increase while esl inc/5min would decrease, again, doesn't happen. What you would NOT predict if this was two organic processes is a tight correlation at 5 minute intervals, which you see here. The spiky nature of the graph is (partially) related to intervals, but that's all. | ||
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