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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 09 2011 20:57 GMT
#61
I've been laddering less and less every season, need to get back to my prime in season 1
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
December 09 2011 20:58 GMT
#62
Now that i've watched stephano laddering for a few days i feel like a bronze player when i play T_T it's no fun
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5913 Posts
December 09 2011 20:58 GMT
#63
Is Artosis in GM yet?
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Not_That
Profile Joined April 2011
287 Posts
December 09 2011 21:01 GMT
#64
Here's a wild suggestion: At the end of each season, add to each person's points the amount of unused ladder points he has. Of course that would mean acknowledging that bonus pool doesn't actually mean anything, so I guess that's that for my idea.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
December 09 2011 21:03 GMT
#65
Fml next week is finals.
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
December 09 2011 21:04 GMT
#66
On December 09 2011 08:19 Chrian wrote:
I would sacrifice a small child to get Daybreak and Bel'shir Winter into next season's map pool.



Belshir, having no ramp, would mean 2 maps (out of 9-10?) in the pool where 4gate is forced from both parties in pvp
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
oxxo
Profile Joined February 2010
988 Posts
December 09 2011 22:03 GMT
#67
On December 10 2011 06:01 Not_That wrote:
Here's a wild suggestion: At the end of each season, add to each person's points the amount of unused ladder points he has. Of course that would mean acknowledging that bonus pool doesn't actually mean anything, so I guess that's that for my idea.


Bonus pool does mean something. So yes your idea doesn't really make sense.
Gojira621
Profile Joined October 2010
United States374 Posts
December 09 2011 22:09 GMT
#68
On December 09 2011 07:41 Enki wrote:
I think the length of the seasons are fine but jeez I barely played at all this season.....Just have little motivation when the map pool is so bad. Hopefully they add some more maps next season, laddering is really getting stale for me.



lol the map pool this season has been awesome. They brought back metal, got rid of some of those kind of bad ones, and less maps means a lot more practice on each map. Id like to see a couple GSL maps brought over like Terminus or Bel'Shir Beach, but come on.
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llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
December 09 2011 22:38 GMT
#69
I think a neutral supply depot is needed below the ramp.
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
Nourek
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany188 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 22:43:07
December 09 2011 22:42 GMT
#70
Season 2: 4 months
Season 3: 3 months
Season 4: 2 months

Hmm. I hope they don't get any shorter.



It would be nice if they added some good new maps, moving the ladder closer to the maps used in tournaments.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
December 09 2011 22:48 GMT
#71
On December 09 2011 07:59 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 07:41 Enki wrote:
I think the length of the seasons are fine but jeez I barely played at all this season.....Just have little motivation when the map pool is so bad. Hopefully they add some more maps next season, laddering is really getting stale for me.


Not sure how you can say this when the map pool is the best its been so far (obviously not perfect, but still miles ahead of any previous seasons map pool)

This is TL. Nobody is ever happy with the map pool, even if it's ripped straight from the GSL.
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 22:51:26
December 09 2011 22:51 GMT
#72
On December 10 2011 07:48 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 07:59 hunts wrote:
On December 09 2011 07:41 Enki wrote:
I think the length of the seasons are fine but jeez I barely played at all this season.....Just have little motivation when the map pool is so bad. Hopefully they add some more maps next season, laddering is really getting stale for me.


Not sure how you can say this when the map pool is the best its been so far (obviously not perfect, but still miles ahead of any previous seasons map pool)

This is TL. Nobody is ever happy with the map pool, even if it's ripped straight from the GSL.

That's because we are actually multiple people. So of course there's always going to be people who don't like a map pool.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
December 09 2011 22:54 GMT
#73
Dayum, Season 4 ending already?

TIME TO MASS GAME!!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Hailene
Profile Joined June 2011
United States80 Posts
December 09 2011 22:54 GMT
#74
I really hope they make the map pool bigger at least. It feels like it's really small for me.
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
December 09 2011 22:58 GMT
#75
On December 09 2011 07:37 dAPhREAk wrote:
the amount of games i play is exponentially decreasing each season. i blame it mostly on the availability of so much content to watch. anyone else?

I play more because when I watch pros play it makes me want to play more than ever. The skillcap is the highest it's ever been and it's only going up -- for a while (first 6 months of sc2, if not 7 or 8 months) SC2 had a fairly low skillcap and was a lot dumb strats. Now it's evolved past all-ins being everything, and there's a lot of skill, macro, micro, strategy, decisions, speed/etc. to be good at.

it's awesomely fun and I have like 180 1v1s played this season. I had like 15 played last season -- the map pool is also where I can actually PLAY the game. I can SEARCH a game knowing it won't be a 33% chance of free loss if we get close spawn zvt LT/metalop.
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carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
December 09 2011 23:00 GMT
#76
but i hope the Grandmaster issues will be solved next season.


What issues? People who are the best at ladder should be there. If you only play customs you should not expect to be there. Now, remember that being the best in the ladder does not mean to be the best in the game/region.
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Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
December 09 2011 23:04 GMT
#77
On December 10 2011 08:00 carloselcoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
but i hope the Grandmaster issues will be solved next season.


What issues? People who are the best at ladder should be there. If you only play customs you should not expect to be there. Now, remember that being the best in the ladder does not mean to be the best in the game/region.

No...that's not the problem, the problem is that it let anyone even close to that level into GM as soon as the lock on GM was lifted, so better ladder players that didn't play at 00:01 were shafted. The people who are best at ladder weren't there, and that's what the problem was.
skatbone
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1005 Posts
December 09 2011 23:13 GMT
#78
On December 10 2011 08:00 carloselcoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
but i hope the Grandmaster issues will be solved next season.


What issues? People who are the best at ladder should be there. If you only play customs you should not expect to be there. Now, remember that being the best in the ladder does not mean to be the best in the game/region.


The issues were outlined by TL posters and by the citing of blue posts in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=281608
Mercurial#1193
Mantraz
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway119 Posts
December 09 2011 23:21 GMT
#79
On December 09 2011 07:53 Enearde wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 09 2011 07:40 Nimic wrote:
Show nested quote +
Hidden skill ratings used for matchmaking and league placement will carry over from the previous season, so if you've completed placement matches in a previous season you will only need to play one new placement match after Season 5 starts


It says "a" previous season, does that mean that what I've heard about MMR resetting if you skip an entire season completely (for each ladder) isn't correct? I heard it happened to one of Tyler's accounts, and some other people. In addition, I believe it just happened to me and a friends' 2v2 team. We were in masters league a couple of seasons ago, but didn't play any last season. This season we had to play all five placement matches again, and we certainly didn't play any masters level 2v2 teams.

Does anyone know anything about that? So far all I've seen about the MMR reset for the 1v1 ladder i anecdotal.


It's true, a friend of mine stop playing starcraft a few months ago and came back at the beginning of november with 5 placements matches and was ranked 80th in a silver division (he was platine before). He didn't play at all (not even one game) last season.

Btw, i hope they'll show some creativity and change de map pool this time, i was very disappointed last season :'(

I'm still pondering how removing close spawns, adding metalopolis and removing searing crater was a disappointment...?
WaSa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden749 Posts
December 09 2011 23:23 GMT
#80
On December 10 2011 07:54 Hailene wrote:
I really hope they make the map pool bigger at least. It feels like it's really small for me.


Me too. A larger pool would reduce the ZvZ fest (all zergs vote the same maps...) that scare me from laddering.
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