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mouzMorroW in Korea + GSL Code A January - Page 25

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Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
December 01 2011 07:44 GMT
#481
infested terran fighting, I'd really love to see MorroW stepping up his play
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 01 2011 07:52 GMT
#482
Morrow is one of the best European players. Hopefully he will do well!
I had a good night of sleep.
chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 07:58:14
December 01 2011 07:57 GMT
#483
On December 01 2011 16:28 Noocta wrote:
He's the only zerg i saw defend the 3 bunkers rush on Shakuras after the bunkers got up. :<

Is that even possible?
I live in Russia. I wear the fufaika, valenoks and the shapka-ushanka with the red star. I drink vodka straight from the samovar, and my riding bear plays on the balalaika.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
December 01 2011 08:00 GMT
#484
Isn't it a bit unfair in a game that is still actively patched to avoid one of your matchups? I think MorroW is a great player and have nothing against him but just not sure if it should be allowed really. In BW even some pro's would choose to TvZ instead of ZvZ i bet.
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 08:08:41
December 01 2011 08:05 GMT
#485
All the players in the house are streaming except the foreigner, he's watching one of them.

"I wonder how many times I can get a free code A spot, maybe I should start practicing soon. Fuck it, Seal's stream is so good!"

JK gl hf Morrow!
SaSe fan club manager
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 08:12:18
December 01 2011 08:11 GMT
#486
Why does "your matchups" have to be the ones you think they are? Are you suggesting TvZ is imbalanced and that's the reason Morrow switched?

Race picking have been allowed for a lot of foreign tournaments (I usually check the rules of the tournaments I'm watching) and yet Morrow is the only high profile name I can think of that does this. The whole, "oh noez, players will pick terran and 1-1-1 protoss players" and the equivallent reasonings are nothing more than irrational fears.
HuanhansXD
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria87 Posts
December 01 2011 08:16 GMT
#487
Good luck, MorroW
XD
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
December 01 2011 08:18 GMT
#488
So it has finally been anounced !! Awsome! Ive been waiting for this for a month! I hope you do well Stefan.
4649!!
Vamp
Profile Joined June 2008
United Kingdom184 Posts
December 01 2011 08:31 GMT
#489
Good luck mate

Enjoy it, I know you'll try hard like you did in [MB].

All the best
`';..;'` http://www.facebook.com/Vamp.Sc2
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
December 01 2011 08:31 GMT
#490
I thought GSL outlaws race-picking... Hope they didn't just bend down cause "it's a foreigner".
Someone call down the Thunder?
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
December 01 2011 10:29 GMT
#491
On December 01 2011 17:31 RaiKageRyu wrote:
I thought GSL outlaws race-picking... Hope they didn't just bend down cause "it's a foreigner".


I dont really care, I cant really see a valid reason not to allow it as long as you announce it in advance and stick to it through the tournament. Every player has to practice and play three matchups.
Romanes eunt domus
SayHello
Profile Joined December 2010
Czech Republic147 Posts
December 01 2011 10:50 GMT
#492
On December 01 2011 17:31 RaiKageRyu wrote:
I thought GSL outlaws race-picking... Hope they didn't just bend down cause "it's a foreigner".


There is nothing against race-picking in GSL tournament rules. So he can play what he wants.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
December 01 2011 14:31 GMT
#493
On November 30 2011 12:58 GhostFall wrote:
I think it's stupidly unfair that he gets to choose his race.

Think of his opponent. Morrow knows the race of his opponent. He can practice his intended matchup, but his opponent is left guessing. Will he be playing Terran? Will he be playing Zerg?

And think about how the tournament goes on. Imagine Morrow is in the finals. He played Zerg all the way until that point. Then he switches to Terran for the finals. He'll have loads upon loads of replays to watch against his opponent. His opponent will only see his Zerg play.

What of imbalance? What if there is an imbalance that is discovered, but not yet fixed by Blizzard? Should it be ok that someone is just allowed to exploit that imbalance by simply switching whenever he feels like it?

If he wants to play ZvT and ZvP, but not play ZvZ, he should have to play random and pray he gets lucky. I don't think Morrow will do that well, but the fact he can choose the matchup he wants is stupid and goes completely against the spirit of competition.

I hate PvP. Does that mean I can choose Terran whenever I get matched up against Protoss? It'll be nice, I can 1/1/1 him.


A lot of foreigners did it in BW too so they could avoid their mirror matchup... Ret used to play ZvT ZvP TvZ but switched to ZvZ when he moved to Korea because race picking wasn't allowed in Korean BW. As long as the GSL permits it I don't see the problem...it's not like he's doing it to exploit a specific opponent's weaker matchup. Also Morrow always TvZ now, so your point about choosing to confuse an opponent or give yourself a statistical advantage is kinda null...
Dodge arrows
bab0lla
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden2 Posts
December 01 2011 15:32 GMT
#494
he better be as autistic as naniwa and just dont care about the living conditions and just focus on the practice. MorroW fighting!
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
December 01 2011 15:41 GMT
#495
On November 30 2011 12:58 GhostFall wrote:
I think it's stupidly unfair that he gets to choose his race.

Think of his opponent. Morrow knows the race of his opponent. He can practice his intended matchup, but his opponent is left guessing. Will he be playing Terran? Will he be playing Zerg?

And think about how the tournament goes on. Imagine Morrow is in the finals. He played Zerg all the way until that point. Then he switches to Terran for the finals. He'll have loads upon loads of replays to watch against his opponent. His opponent will only see his Zerg play.

What of imbalance? What if there is an imbalance that is discovered, but not yet fixed by Blizzard? Should it be ok that someone is just allowed to exploit that imbalance by simply switching whenever he feels like it?

If he wants to play ZvT and ZvP, but not play ZvZ, he should have to play random and pray he gets lucky. I don't think Morrow will do that well, but the fact he can choose the matchup he wants is stupid and goes completely against the spirit of competition.

I hate PvP. Does that mean I can choose Terran whenever I get matched up against Protoss? It'll be nice, I can 1/1/1 him.


He only plays three matchups. tvz, zvt zvp. dumbass.
White-Ra fighting!
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
December 01 2011 15:43 GMT
#496
On December 01 2011 16:57 chuDr3t4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 16:28 Noocta wrote:
He's the only zerg i saw defend the 3 bunkers rush on Shakuras after the bunkers got up. :<

Is that even possible?


Vods or i won't believe it.
NtroP
Profile Joined July 2010
United States174 Posts
December 01 2011 15:47 GMT
#497
Staying with Nshoseo? Can you say godly ZvP for our infested terran?

Too bad Doa left, he and morrow are pretty good friends.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 01 2011 15:50 GMT
#498
On December 02 2011 00:43 poorcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 16:57 chuDr3t4 wrote:
On December 01 2011 16:28 Noocta wrote:
He's the only zerg i saw defend the 3 bunkers rush on Shakuras after the bunkers got up. :<

Is that even possible?


Vods or i won't believe it.


Haha

I think ( don't quote me on that ) it was versus Select on Shakuras ( obviously ) during one of the Shoutcraft invitational ( the TotalBiscuit's Tournament )
It's quite old now tho, like a few month. But he defended the rush after the bunkers got up, and without losing the hatchery.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
LunaSaint
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom620 Posts
December 01 2011 16:02 GMT
#499
Would this be the VOD in question?
Ayamis
Profile Joined January 2011
United States28 Posts
December 01 2011 16:05 GMT
#500
Grats to Morrow, he kinda fell off the radar for a bit, im excited to see him preforming at the top tier again!
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