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FatalBlur
United States25 Posts
anyways I love this, but I am having a problem with it, I was able to open the main thing(see first screenshot by OP) but I can't get back to it, and somehow the text disappeared, now I've uninstalled everything and redownloaded, and cant seem to get it to work, anyone have any advice? Because Im trying to switch to Protoss and with this it would be so much easier, thx for any help guuuuuyss!!!  <3 | ||
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TechSC
Canada40 Posts
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On November 22 2011 08:27 TechSC wrote: Obviously people are going to say it's not cheating, since you can have a second monitor / piece of paper beside your monitor / whatever. However, it's not for the community to decide which 3rd party programs are legal and not, it's Blizzard's call. So saying "I don't see how you can get banned for this" or whatever doesn't really mean much, since you don't make the calls. I can obs a game and tell through VoIP what's going on to one of the players, it is not cheating of course. | ||
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llKenZyll
United States853 Posts
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Mauldo
United States750 Posts
On November 22 2011 02:37 ahri wrote: It's less cheat than audio build order thingie anyway. ^^^^^ I'd use the shit out of this thing in customs against the computer. I dunno if I would in actual ladder games though. That being said, I wouldn't curse out someone who said "Oh hey, I'm using that SC2 Scrapbook overlay thing." That beep/light/audio cue that marks larva injects and chronoboosts is a completely different horse though. Good work, dude. I'll be using it against the computer literally right now. | ||
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Hantak
Chile59 Posts
I wouldnt use this, not even against a friend on a custom game, maybe sometime against the AI if im offline, but nah, im just not willing to take the risk :D | ||
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DueSs
United States765 Posts
On November 22 2011 08:24 Alpino wrote: I wouldn't practice with someone who uses this. Maybe it is not exactly cheating, but it just doesn't feel right. That's not how you are supposed to learn sc2. What about a program that tells how much stuff my opponent can have at the given time(just the possibilities, of course!). Just reminding me of it. I mean of course I would have done all the math, the program just makes me know the possibilities better. You would be able to adjust to his level and to what you have scouted, you click Platinum opponent, opened 2 rax. And then I have this estimative of what my opponent can have at max, and with data gathering it starts to perfect itself ! :D. Seems handy! Of course everybody knows the numbers, so there is no problem with it. I mean, I'm just lazy to do the math you know, but I could do it it!! How are you "supposed to learn" sc2? I think it completely depends on your own learning styles. This style DOES work for me. I practice a build for quite a few games and then I have it. That's a perfectly fine way of learning sc2. | ||
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VeLfoR
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On November 22 2011 08:25 FatalBlur wrote: This is really cool, and anyone who hates is just mad because they spent all that time learning BO's from memory, and never tried anything like this, and are just trying to make up for it. Just like the people who try to justify purchasing an AMD processor over Intel(just had to say it) anyways I love this, but I am having a problem with it, I was able to open the main thing(see first screenshot by OP) but I can't get back to it, and somehow the text disappeared, now I've uninstalled everything and redownloaded, and cant seem to get it to work, anyone have any advice? Because Im trying to switch to Protoss and with this it would be so much easier, thx for any help guuuuuyss!!! <3I have the same problem, after 3-4 trys now it just show the orders at my desktop wen sc2 is minimized not ingame. ps: framework are installed and updated. | ||
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danteafk
307 Posts
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vince1234
39 Posts
On November 22 2011 08:25 FatalBlur wrote: This is really cool, and anyone who hates is just mad because they spent all that time learning BO's from memory, and never tried anything like this, and are just trying to make up for it. Just like the people who try to justify purchasing an AMD processor over Intel(just had to say it) anyways I love this, but I am having a problem with it, I was able to open the main thing(see first screenshot by OP) but I can't get back to it, and somehow the text disappeared, now I've uninstalled everything and redownloaded, and cant seem to get it to work, anyone have any advice? Because Im trying to switch to Protoss and with this it would be so much easier, thx for any help guuuuuyss!!! <3same problem | ||
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Mauldo
United States750 Posts
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FatalBlur
United States25 Posts
On November 22 2011 08:24 Alpino wrote: I wouldn't practice with someone who uses this. Maybe it is not exactly cheating, but it just doesn't feel right. That's not how you are supposed to learn sc2. What about a program that tells how much stuff my opponent can have at the given time(just the possibilities, of course!). Just reminding me of it. I mean of course I would have done all the math, the program just makes me know the possibilities better. You would be able to adjust to his level and to what you have scouted, you click Platinum opponent, opened 2 rax. And then I have this estimative of what my opponent can have at max, and with data gathering it starts to perfect itself ! :D. Seems handy! Of course everybody knows the numbers, so there is no problem with it. I mean, I'm just lazy to do the math you know, but I could do it it!! I would compare this utility to a calculator, its good for when you cant do "high" math problems like 20x86 or something, or even 12x13 but theres a point where you dont/cant have it, and you need to realize you should be able to do this in your head and that's a good way to learn and progress. Also in terms of algebra as well, the calculator only gets you partway there, it depends on you to solve the question(win) having a calculator wont always make you able to solve the problem, or else we would have no problems. Now using that same metaphor, your comment says, using a calculator is cheating and it's not part of learning math and algebra, in those terms or in it's original terms, that sounds kinda stupid. just my opinion though, you have the right to yours as well. Also, as I love using metaphors, this is nothing like a maphack, which in fps games would be like wallhacks or aimbot, where you kinda automatically win, this is more like(to an extent) putting a red dot in the middle of the screen, so that when you see someone there you shoot, now id say thats more on the hacking side, BUT it's the same idea, you have to account for recoil, and spray, and movement as well, so all in all, this is something that wont make you instawin, it helps, especially at lower levels, but eventually you memorize it and dont need that anymore, you progress and it becomes muscle memory. again, just my opnions and god damn i'm going to love it when it works, lol, OP plz get your lazy ass on TL and respond! | ||
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ScaSully
United States488 Posts
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Korlinni
125 Posts
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Tun3
17 Posts
On November 22 2011 08:25 FatalBlur wrote: This is really cool, and anyone who hates is just mad because they spent all that time learning BO's from memory, and never tried anything like this, and are just trying to make up for it. Just like the people who try to justify purchasing an AMD processor over Intel(just had to say it) anyways I love this, but I am having a problem with it, I was able to open the main thing(see first screenshot by OP) but I can't get back to it, and somehow the text disappeared, now I've uninstalled everything and redownloaded, and cant seem to get it to work, anyone have any advice? Because Im trying to switch to Protoss and with this it would be so much easier, thx for any help guuuuuyss!!! <3Same with me  | ||
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vince1234
39 Posts
help plz | ||
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Hoodoo
Canada7 Posts
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apalemorning
Canada509 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
On November 22 2011 02:28 -swordguy wrote: In customs this is fine for refining/practicing builds but on ladder I would definitely consider this cheating. This is a real time strategy game and requires people to learn builds and counters if they want to achieve some kind of success. The person that remembers their build and the counters will have the advantage and should win. By adding the build order overlays you take out that important part of the game ( I know you still have to execute the build but remembering it is just as important) and that makes it easier for people to play. The game is meant to take a lot of practice in order to learn/optimize the builds and this program will help with that but using a 3rd party source just isn't acceptable in my opinion (and in the TOS). At the moment i have a notepad .doc on my 2nd monitor. Is that cheating ? | ||
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