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Alchemind
Profile Joined November 2010
Albania142 Posts
April 02 2012 00:02 GMT
#221
Okay, nvm I solved the problem. This program has a funny directory task bar icons dont really match up as far as communicating when program opens and closes. If anyone else has an issue, just try 'ave link as ..." and send directly to your desktop instead of it pre-fixed directory.


Thanks for the work! Looks great. :D


PS, anyone saying this is cheating is straight up ridiculous.
You are a fucking choir boy compared to me!!!! A choir boy!!!!
dreign
Profile Joined June 2011
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 19:53:21
April 03 2012 19:50 GMT
#222
Is it possible to make the overlay non-clickable?
Is it possible to define a fixed position for the overlay?

Everytime I use the overlay I experience the following problem:
The overlay is fixed in the top-left of the screen and when I try to scroll left with mouse, my mouse focuses the overlay and the pointer changes to the normal windows pointer.

Another position would be great and a feature to make the overlay non-clickable / not focusable..



thanks,

dreign


EDIT: nevermind...I think 1 click on the title for positioning and 2 click for locking is what I searched for^^
Shivvy
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada37 Posts
April 03 2012 19:53 GMT
#223
I can't believe people were hating on this program. Obviously one will not keep it forever but it's really useful for those who are just starting out.
More GG more skill.
Gomox
Profile Joined December 2010
32 Posts
April 10 2012 11:20 GMT
#224
Is it just me being too dumb to find it or is the "stim" icon missing?
Marve
Profile Joined September 2008
Norway10 Posts
April 11 2012 20:13 GMT
#225
I find this program extremely useful when practicing buildorders against the computer.

Also, you shouldn't have to delete the config file if the window is not showing.
The problem is that the window moves itself off screen.
You can use some windows hotkeys to move it back:

Alt-Tab to the program
Alt-Space to bring up the "move/maximize/minimize" menu
M to select move command (if you have english windows)
Press an arrow key and the window should snap to your mouse.
SKGZombie
Profile Joined February 2012
United States42 Posts
April 28 2012 16:34 GMT
#226
Hey Veritas cool program thanks! Im having a bit of trouble though one day the program was working fine and the next every time I try and run the program I get an error message that the program has stopped working for some reason. ive tried deleting and re-downloading even reinstalling .net framework but nothing works im on windows 7 64 bit
If I live I will kill you if I die you are foregivin such is the rule of honor
BEN0
Profile Joined January 2012
United States2 Posts
May 11 2012 05:28 GMT
#227
On February 12 2012 19:09 SovSov wrote:
So is someone actually playing StarCraft if they only do 1 all in build and follow this guide?

I mean, at least memorization was a skill-barrier when being a 1 base all in'er, but now this type of mod eliminates that need.



Can people please stop being ignorant...

like, for real... not to be too harsh, but if you think this program is "cheating" - you aren't thinking.

I love this program - but I don't use the overlay option... for me, I loved it because it made it easier to design things like this:

[image loading]

I have 1 for each race, folded into 3 parts like a pamphlet... this is an earlier example, but I also started organizing them - so for example with zerg, I have one column for various rush build orders I like, and I have all the hatch 1st build orders I like in the next column.

You see, for me - this is easier and faster than even using the overlay...
I have all three races right behind my keyboard - as 'pamphlets', all 3 side by side are the size of 1 sheet of paper. So I can quickly grab my race and stand it up between the keyboard and the bottom of the monitor (desk has build in monitor stand that raises the height about 6 inches... since I fold it like a brochure, it doesn't slide down or fall over, and the positioning makes it so I can essentially have it in my line of sight while playing.

Ya, the overlay is directly on the screen, but honestly I don't think their would be any noticeable advantage over having a BO taped directly to the side, or in my case a sheet at the bottom. Because even with the build order on screen , you still have to glance over and read it while you play, as it is nearly impossible to read with peripheral vision alone - our eyes must focus on text to comprehend the words...
In fact I just did a little experiment, focusing at the middle of my monitor and then glancing to the far left or right side of the screen, then doing the same and shifting focus to the sheet directly below.
With my 24" widescreen (1920x1080) it is actually the same distance (or angle to be more precise) to shift focus from the sides vs shifting focus to the bottom... and since many of the controls and important info is near the mid-bottom of the screen, it is actually even better.

This isn't even bringing up the fact that one only needs to glance and remember the next few steps --- and the more the build order is used it becomes to be memorized, and the sheet is looked at less and less, just being used as a reminder or in case you forget a step....

Now, considering I've made my case that my 'cheat sheet', is just as effective as the overlay (more effective for me ...I don't need windowed full screen)...

The thing is, I didn't NEED to use this program to make this cheat sheet - in fact the background to divide it into 3 sections was pulled from a template in MS publisher, and I could have used it to make then entire sheet, or any number of programs, or a damn crayon. I simply like the fact that not only can I use it to organize the build orders I like to try, but the huge plus is being able to simply drag the build over and make a 'wallpaper' that I can print.....

Every person that has pointed out you can easily put a sticky note on the screen and do the same thing IS RIGHT!!! And the thing is, if you consider that cheating - you're not thinking.... At the pro level, THEY DON'T NEED BUILD ORDERS!!!
The part where I said "the more the build order is used the less you look at the sheet".... well they have played their build orders SOOO much that it comes NATURAL - they have it MEMORIZED... and I'M SURE most if not ALL pro and competitive players started out using specific build orders and memorized them, likely by writing them down, maybe some experimented over and over in game to devise & perfectg their own builds - but i'm sure plenty memorized well-know BOs and tweaked them as they gained experienec, or possibly even using the web-based tools that let you look at the BO and analyze it visually, making adjustments and seeing how it affects the outcome.

In summary, this program - even with the overlay ON SCREEN WHILE PLAYING, is pointless for cheating (if you need to see the build order & don't have it memorized, you're still practicing)
It is pointless for anything other than learning and perfecting build order timing...

So please, just because it is more convenient than writing on note pads or printing pages from the builds here on TeamLiquid - don't try and convince yourself that easier & more organized methods of doing the SAME THING is in any way related to cheating or being unfair.... if you think it could be cheating, simply THINK IT THROUGH....


Also, thank you Veritas for sharing this utility with others in the hope they may find it useful as well.
(fyi, a few upgrade icons are missing, such as burrow, and i believe adrenal glands)
MxGEndeR
Profile Joined July 2011
United States69 Posts
June 25 2012 04:07 GMT
#228
The overlay doesn't work properly for me. Whenever I double click to add an overlay, it always puts up the same one, no matter which one I double click.
Zerg is fun.
DreamKiller
Profile Joined November 2010
United States15 Posts
July 09 2012 12:22 GMT
#229
Will this be update anymore? the Show Opponent info overlay is no longer working for me after the last patch.
VFStar
Profile Joined April 2012
Norway4 Posts
July 10 2012 12:46 GMT
#230
The overlay that comes up when a match start [the build orders and opponent overlay] dossen't work, I've tried to delete everything and install it again but the program remebers it Happened after the latest uppdate.
tibOtz
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil3 Posts
July 10 2012 18:52 GMT
#231
Stopped working after the last update, I tried everything and nothing! Too bad, I loved this software! I think until it is sold at a price not too high could be a good buy, and the user could devote himself more to the software because it is excellent!

Does anyone know what I can do to make Scrapbook work?
danteafk
Profile Joined May 2011
307 Posts
July 15 2012 10:49 GMT
#232
works fine for me.
Veritas
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom106 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 03:02:30
July 29 2012 02:42 GMT
#233
The SC2 interaction portions will probably no longer work.

The site that the auto-updater files were stored on, cjb.net, cut their free hosting service. Normally the application would fetch the latest patch data on startup but now it's stuck on 1.4.2.

I'm curently working on a large update that adds quite a lot of new features, but in the meantime I've pushed out an update that uses the new auto-update site.

If you have any feature requests for Version 3 now would be the time to ask
Veritas
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom106 Posts
August 02 2012 01:52 GMT
#234
1.5 broke everything. I'll try and get a fix out ASAP.
Veritas
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom106 Posts
August 03 2012 02:42 GMT
#235
1.5 fix now available here.
Toyuko
Profile Joined August 2012
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 07:44:43
August 03 2012 07:44 GMT
#236
Every time i try to start up SC2 scrapbook, it crashs on start up. Whats up here?
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http://i.imgur.com/4tU60.jpg
TibblesEvilCat
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom766 Posts
August 03 2012 07:49 GMT
#237
this program is considered a hack as it uses the same method to see what your opponent is doing. if you want to see build orders on screen, I suggest using another screen or another pc or even better old school of writing it down.
Live Fast Die Young :D
Toyuko
Profile Joined August 2012
2 Posts
August 03 2012 21:09 GMT
#238
On August 03 2012 16:49 TibblesEvilCat wrote:
this program is considered a hack as it uses the same method to see what your opponent is doing. if you want to see build orders on screen, I suggest using another screen or another pc or even better old school of writing it down.


Well your no help. It may be a hack but its go to use vs A.I and to test build orders. Im just trying to fix it.
TheAceX
Profile Joined August 2012
United States1 Post
August 24 2012 01:20 GMT
#239
On August 03 2012 11:42 Veritas wrote:
1.5 fix now available here.


Hello Veritas,

I would like to start off by stating that you are doing great with this application! Truly, one of a kind and amazing in its purpose. Now I know of the server issues, but I was just hoping if you could please keep us,users, up to date with your progress cause I can not speak for everyone but I am very eager (on the edge of my seat) to get my hands back on the new and improved SC2 NoteBook.

Thank you in advance,
Fellow User and SC2 Player
darkwings
Profile Joined September 2012
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 22:56:35
September 17 2012 22:56 GMT
#240
cool program, but what do the PvX, TvX, and ZvX matchups mean?
The world pushes without mercy and when some push back the world points and cries 'evil'.
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