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FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 08:36:26
November 09 2011 08:35 GMT
#481
I sat through the entire show last night, I gotta say the crowd either seemed really dead or they purposely made it so the mics didn't pick up cheering from the crowd..
It was kind of awkward hearing tastosis going "LETS HEAR SOME NOISE FOR ___________" and then complete silence following for the next 5 seconds.
Whether that's the case or not, StarcraftII scene seems extremely underdeveloped in Phillipines.
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
November 09 2011 08:39 GMT
#482
On November 09 2011 17:35 FidoDido wrote:
I sat through the entire show last night, I gotta say the crowd either seemed really dead or they purposely made it so the mics didn't pick up cheering from the crowd..
It was kind of awkward hearing tastosis going "LETS HEAR SOME NOISE FOR ___________" and then complete silence following for the next 5 seconds.
Whether that's the case or not, StarcraftII scene seems extremely underdeveloped in Phillipines.

Errrrr no... the live audience were very ecstatic.

Please stop with all the "PH has underdeveloped esports" BS as it insults the hard work other eSports organizations have put in. We have an eSports scene here and it's great.
ambrosiaa
Profile Joined October 2011
Singapore333 Posts
November 09 2011 08:49 GMT
#483
On November 09 2011 17:39 ZenDeX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 17:35 FidoDido wrote:
I sat through the entire show last night, I gotta say the crowd either seemed really dead or they purposely made it so the mics didn't pick up cheering from the crowd..
It was kind of awkward hearing tastosis going "LETS HEAR SOME NOISE FOR ___________" and then complete silence following for the next 5 seconds.
Whether that's the case or not, StarcraftII scene seems extremely underdeveloped in Phillipines.

Errrrr no... the live audience were very ecstatic.

Please stop with all the "PH has underdeveloped esports" BS as it insults the hard work other eSports organizations have put in. We have an eSports scene here and it's great.

Then what happened over there? Holding the event at a small corner in the mall, having massive delays, low stream and audio quality. maybe its not under developed but its definitely not up to par with the rest of the world.
Superfool
Profile Joined November 2011
Philippines9 Posts
November 09 2011 09:05 GMT
#484
On November 09 2011 17:49 ambrosiaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 17:39 ZenDeX wrote:
On November 09 2011 17:35 FidoDido wrote:
I sat through the entire show last night, I gotta say the crowd either seemed really dead or they purposely made it so the mics didn't pick up cheering from the crowd..
It was kind of awkward hearing tastosis going "LETS HEAR SOME NOISE FOR ___________" and then complete silence following for the next 5 seconds.
Whether that's the case or not, StarcraftII scene seems extremely underdeveloped in Phillipines.

Errrrr no... the live audience were very ecstatic.

Please stop with all the "PH has underdeveloped esports" BS as it insults the hard work other eSports organizations have put in. We have an eSports scene here and it's great.

Then what happened over there? Holding the event at a small corner in the mall, having massive delays, low stream and audio quality. maybe its not under developed but its definitely not up to par with the rest of the world.


Please understand, AZK does not represent the whole of the Philippine eSports Community. There are other organizations that try, and do their best to give wonderful events. And these things have been done. It's just that one man managed to fuck up everything.

BTW, I was there in the crowd, it was pretty lively, you can ask the casters and emcees.
probablywrong
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Philippines209 Posts
November 09 2011 09:19 GMT
#485
On November 09 2011 17:49 ambrosiaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 17:39 ZenDeX wrote:
On November 09 2011 17:35 FidoDido wrote:
I sat through the entire show last night, I gotta say the crowd either seemed really dead or they purposely made it so the mics didn't pick up cheering from the crowd..
It was kind of awkward hearing tastosis going "LETS HEAR SOME NOISE FOR ___________" and then complete silence following for the next 5 seconds.
Whether that's the case or not, StarcraftII scene seems extremely underdeveloped in Phillipines.

Errrrr no... the live audience were very ecstatic.

Please stop with all the "PH has underdeveloped esports" BS as it insults the hard work other eSports organizations have put in. We have an eSports scene here and it's great.

Then what happened over there? Holding the event at a small corner in the mall, having massive delays, low stream and audio quality. maybe its not under developed but its definitely not up to par with the rest of the world.


It's at the center of the Mall. It looks like that because the area behind it is being renovated because a big part of it was caught in a huge explosion 2 years ago.
Stropheum
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1124 Posts
November 09 2011 09:23 GMT
#486
Way better than another certain public apology that won't be mentioned....cause everyone knows what i'm talking about anyway.


GJ IPL. We all love you.
Humility
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom19 Posts
November 09 2011 09:29 GMT
#487
Don't have much to say apart from, big props to IPL. Way to step up to the mark.
Lack of Success is not failure. Failing to learn from it is.
LiveForever
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines4 Posts
November 09 2011 09:54 GMT
#488
Reposting from the other thread:

I hope people would understand that the Philippine Starcraft Community is pretty fragmented. Most of us play because we played Broodwar. There's no national league and the internet cafes that have Starcraft are few and far in between. This event could've been really good for the community(and if i didn't have to go to work, i would have been there too), but because someone decided to be incredibly greedy and/or incompetent (from what I gather), it all just got messed up.

I know that the international community does not think much of the Philippines in terms of e-sport potential if at all, and rarely does it show up in TL aside from the occasional Manny Pacquiao or national disaster thread, but we are here and appreciate this game just as much as the next guy.

I am just really disappointed about how PPSL was managed. It could have been really good. But no. Now every time a Philippine event would be held, we would be reminded of this fiasco, and comparisons will be made.

IPL are such a great events and I always tune in whenever I can. From what I understand, David Ting made a lot of things happen and I suppose took a calculated risk when IPL took on this PPSL held in Manila. I do not know David Ting personally and perhaps, never will; but I respect him a lot for what he has done for the game that I so enjoy.

From where I am right now, I can only hope that the people who were immediately directly affected.

I have stopped playing for a while, relegated myself to the reddit habit of just watching games, but after all this has happened; I feel motivated to play and organize local events again.

GLHF as always.
Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
November 09 2011 10:05 GMT
#489
thx for the statement
Comfort from bottles, cheers from beers the guitars are our weapons and we know how to kill!
ProLagger
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines30 Posts
November 09 2011 10:08 GMT
#490
On November 09 2011 17:35 FidoDido wrote:
I sat through the entire show last night, I gotta say the crowd either seemed really dead or they purposely made it so the mics didn't pick up cheering from the crowd..
It was kind of awkward hearing tastosis going "LETS HEAR SOME NOISE FOR ___________" and then complete silence following for the next 5 seconds.
Whether that's the case or not, StarcraftII scene seems extremely underdeveloped in Phillipines.



The hell,we were so noisy. What you're saying is not true. Starcraft 2 scene is quite huge here in the Philippines. There was no Mic for the crowd so the stream can't hear us scream. Not our fault. We were even chanting "mkp, mkp" and so on.
If life gets you down, QQ.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
November 09 2011 11:38 GMT
#491
On November 09 2011 19:08 ProLagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 17:35 FidoDido wrote:
I sat through the entire show last night, I gotta say the crowd either seemed really dead or they purposely made it so the mics didn't pick up cheering from the crowd..
It was kind of awkward hearing tastosis going "LETS HEAR SOME NOISE FOR ___________" and then complete silence following for the next 5 seconds.
Whether that's the case or not, StarcraftII scene seems extremely underdeveloped in Phillipines.



The hell,we were so noisy. What you're saying is not true. Starcraft 2 scene is quite huge here in the Philippines. There was no Mic for the crowd so the stream can't hear us scream. Not our fault. We were even chanting "mkp, mkp" and so on.


They didnt have a microphone in the crowd and people take that microphone for granted.
twitch.tv/medrea
Piguarak
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada5 Posts
November 09 2011 13:10 GMT
#492
Although I missed watching the event and am somewhat in the dark as to what happened, I am very pleased to see IPL taking responsibility, even though they had no direct control over the event. This just goes to show the true quality of the IPL brand. Much respect to IPL. Can't wait for IPL4! ♥
Insert original, semi-comical one liner here.
chipman
Profile Joined February 2011
United States139 Posts
November 09 2011 13:36 GMT
#493
Hon players flew there for nothing. Other people were fed false information and couldn't attend due to no fault of their own, in addition to having to basically beg for said info, which in turn opened space for the host party to add more of their own fold into the bracket, a hard decision to make (I'm sure). The stream quality was awful, especially day 1, and we had airheads casting when we were promised tastosis.

I feel bad for sea, and while I want back those precious moments of my life wasted on sub-par quality, personality, and professionalism I know that crying about it won't bring them back.

So I'll give IPL the benefit of a doubt this time. I like the wording in the actual statement itself, it wasn't some half-ass apology. They recognize the event was awful for many of the players/teams involved along with the stream audience. There is competition out there from various other parties, it's actually kind of crazy to think about.

tldr, event = bad for esports. IPL = good for esports.
Doesn't Afraid of Anything
MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
November 09 2011 13:59 GMT
#494
Seriously, i wouldn't consider hosting anything in Phillipines for a long time, at the least make no forms of joint events with phillipines based organizations, far too inadequate, inconsistent, poor liability and inefficient. Even the team based from there is so sketchy. Events needs to be hosted at reliable countries with more legitimacy.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
November 09 2011 14:04 GMT
#495
Don't blame a whole country because of the actions of 1 guy
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
chipman
Profile Joined February 2011
United States139 Posts
November 09 2011 14:41 GMT
#496
This thread must be the first time I've ever heard anyone of ^ that opinion.

In all seriousness, there were a good many people negatively effected by any and all of this, and while one person is more to blame than others, I don't see azk players coming to the forums shedding tears of blood for being part of this BS. Of course they were cooperative- they got seated amongst the best of the best in a tournament rigged for them in which they hoped to secure more known players for themselves through it all.

This is serious, people could be going to jail. The fans obviously aren't to blame but get real. Shouldn't SEA be the most upset over this in terms of region?
Doesn't Afraid of Anything
h41fgod
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden377 Posts
November 09 2011 14:52 GMT
#497
Yeah, I tried watching for a while. I am sad you had to pull the plug, but under the circumstances, glad you did.

Really appreciate you:
Trying this tournament at all.
Actually pulling the plug because of the problems.
Not pulling funding (not screwing the players).
Telling us the truth.
A promise to try to make it up by recasting.
Mariella
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines36 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 14:56:27
November 09 2011 14:54 GMT
#498
On November 09 2011 22:59 MildSeven wrote:
Seriously, i wouldn't consider hosting anything in Phillipines for a long time, at the least make no forms of joint events with phillipines based organizations, far too inadequate, inconsistent, poor liability and inefficient. Even the team based from there is so sketchy. Events needs to be hosted at reliable countries with more legitimacy.


Mineski held an eSports event just a week prior that went quite well (WCG PH 2011). They should have been the ones who organized this.
probablywrong
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Philippines209 Posts
November 09 2011 15:01 GMT
#499
On November 09 2011 22:36 chipman wrote:
Hon players flew there for nothing. Other people were fed false information and couldn't attend due to no fault of their own, in addition to having to basically beg for said info, which in turn opened space for the host party to add more of their own fold into the bracket, a hard decision to make (I'm sure). The stream quality was awful, especially day 1, and we had airheads casting when we were promised tastosis.



to clarify, no hon player flew in. it was strictly advertised locally. duskbin, however, has a hon team based in PH and they're pretty pissed.
CinnaBuns
Profile Joined August 2011
United States34 Posts
November 09 2011 15:56 GMT
#500
On November 09 2011 23:41 chipman wrote:
This thread must be the first time I've ever heard anyone of ^ that opinion.

In all seriousness, there were a good many people negatively effected by any and all of this, and while one person is more to blame than others, I don't see azk players coming to the forums shedding tears of blood for being part of this BS. Of course they were cooperative- they got seated amongst the best of the best in a tournament rigged for them in which they hoped to secure more known players for themselves through it all.

This is serious, people could be going to jail. The fans obviously aren't to blame but get real. Shouldn't SEA be the most upset over this in terms of region?


The complete silence on the part of AZK is deafening and speaks for itself. IGN should seriously consider banning all players on the team who were at the event and all future members of the team as well from IPL events.
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