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On November 09 2011 22:10 Piguarak wrote:
Although I missed watching the event and am somewhat in the dark as to what happened, I am very pleased to see IPL taking responsibility, even though they had no direct control over the event. This just goes to show the true quality of the IPL brand. Much respect to IPL. Can't wait for IPL4! ♥
On the other hand if there was true quality in the IPL brand they wouldn't have handed it off to some random idiot to put on a tournament that was far too much for him to handle.
Given a lot of the information that has come to surface since the event, this Gus guy did not have a track record of running great events to begin with, but somehow managed to convince IPL to allow him to turn his Filipino tourney into an Asian qualifier, flying in tons of casters and players that would otherwise not have bothered attending. it likely would have stuck within the range of this guys capabilities and even if it didn't wouldn't have been an international debacle if it was run just as poorly by virtue of being so much smaller of scale.
If they had a bit more quality control none of this would have happened in the first place because this complete incompetent wouldn't have so easily duped them into thinking he could pull all of this off. Unless this guy is a master of social engineering to gain the trust of IPL the way he did, and it seems unlikely he is a master at anything but fucking up, I think IPL share a bit more culpability than people are attributing to them. I'd like to think you can't hand car keys to an idiot without a license and walk away scott free when he runs people over, which is pretty much what has happened.
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I'm from Singapore and while i believe we have a better suited infrastructure (faster internet, access to tech, suitable convention halls etc), i still think that the Philippines is a good place to host a SEA event. They have a huge community, passion and people who will go down from different parts of the country to watch the events live. Singapore might pull off the event better but the turnout will be nowhere as large and lively as that in PH.
Stop blaming the entire country because of this incident. Mineski has shown time and time again that they are capable of organizing great dota events. Just because many people feel that it's a 'third world country' or that the scene 'isn't ready' doesn't mean that we shouldn't try at all. You think Korea didn't start somewhere?
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On November 10 2011 01:19 Coruscant wrote:
I'm from Singapore and while i believe we have a better suited infrastructure (faster internet, access to tech, suitable convention halls etc), i still think that the Philippines is a good place to host a SEA event. They have a huge community, passion and people who will go down from different parts of the country to watch the events live. Singapore might pull off the event better but the turnout will be nowhere as large and lively as that in PH.
Stop blaming the entire country because of this incident. Mineski has shown time and time again that they are capable of organizing great dota events. Just because many people feel that it's a 'third world country' or that the scene 'isn't ready' doesn't mean that we shouldn't try at all. You think Korea didn't start somewhere?
I agree.
I'm from Indonesia. I don't care if our country was called as third world country, or whatever. But we do have infrastructure, fast internet, technology, convention center hall (we got a big one actually) etc.
I don't think if holding a game event in SEA country is a bad idea/worthless/etc. I do admit, if SC2 Players in our country are not that many because most of the gamers are interested with other games that offered "free to play" method.
But if we're talking about infrastructure, we do have it. The only thing that I still doubt is, fund (money, what else? :D), and Human Resource (for example: Event Organizer who is seriously willing to make it happen). Why? because, in most of Game Festival events in our country, the EO never streaming the event over the Internet.
Why?
May be because money, may be because the're not aiming for that, or may be because the number of viewer are not notable. But I do know one thing, we do have infrastructure for live streaming event (the only thing is... still untouched).
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IM So glad IPL addressed this issue. I read about it on reddit and was wondering.
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While I'm glad that IPL is taking responsibility for all of this, I'm severely disappointed that they gave control and support to an incompetent douchebag.
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On November 10 2011 01:19 Coruscant wrote:
I'm from Singapore and while i believe we have a better suited infrastructure (faster internet, access to tech, suitable convention halls etc), i still think that the Philippines is a good place to host a SEA event. They have a huge community, passion and people who will go down from different parts of the country to watch the events live. Singapore might pull off the event better but the turnout will be nowhere as large and lively as that in PH.
Stop blaming the entire country because of this incident. Mineski has shown time and time again that they are capable of organizing great dota events. Just because many people feel that it's a 'third world country' or that the scene 'isn't ready' doesn't mean that we shouldn't try at all. You think Korea didn't start somewhere?
Thank you for this post, some ppl can be pretty ignorant.
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gained SO much more respect for IPL. Thanks man!
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Respect to IPL for taking reponsibility! Btw is anyone else mad at this Gus Ledesma guy? From the YoonYJ issue he seems like a total asshole to me.
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Glad to hear they're taking responsibility and doing what needs to be done.
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Thanks for the apology IGN. I'm Filipino and this just pisses me off to see such idiots working on this, so unprepared. *Facepalm*
One more thing:
Don't blame the country for such incident that happened. Not because I'm trying to defend it but because there are a lot of passionate people, kind and fun people there. It just turned out that we've met one of the idiots.
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No... posting someone's personal number is bad form.
We don't do mob justice here on TL.
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User was warned for this post
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