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Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 00:03:23
November 07 2011 21:49 GMT
#1
Hello everyone,

I just wanted to take some time to apologize for what happened last night on our stream. We should have taken better care in selecting a partner in South East Asia to run our qualifiers with. We received assurances that ended up not panning out and we ended up going along with it due to the venue's short timetable for testing availability. We should have screened the quality of the event more intensely. Our intent was to help StarCraft 2 gain popularity across the globe, and we should have done our jobs better. What we thought was going to be something that progresses the scene in SEA has actually done the opposite.

I want to address a couple points that have come up.

1) Regarding YoonYJ's situation (http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=2699)

This is a terrible situation that we had no information about until when we read his post. We feel like our part in this has been misrepresented and wanted to clarify that our agreement with the PPSL included a schedule for payments which we were up to date on - PPSL was never waiting for money from us.

2) Regarding our involvement in the event

Our involvement in the event was limited to providing money to support the event as well as providing a streaming channel. We also wanted to support the event by taking its winner to IPL 4. We spent time reviewing what they were planning, as well providing them with production assets and we felt fairly secure that they could run a decent event with what they had promised us. However, we should have been more involved with anything that had to do with the IPL name. We feel this name has come to mean quality entertainment to the community and we apologize for letting everyone down. This is a lesson we will be taking with us for future events with other regional partners. While we realize that our regional partners cannot hold something of the scale of a main IPL event, we feel like at the very least they should have significantly less issues in streaming gameplay and more of a responsiveness to the community.

3) Casters

The only casters we were aware of going into this event was Tastosis. We were under the impression they would be casting the entire event. Regardless of the quality of the other casters, this was something that should have been communicated, as I know many people tuned in specifically for Tastosis.

4) HoNslaught

We had no idea they were going to be trying to run a HoN event alongside SC2. We apologize to the HoN players who were mislead and wasted their time coming to the venue.

What is going to happen now:

We do not feel confident that the PPSL can present a watchable product. As such, we have taken away their streaming privileges from our channel. They may end up streaming on another channel but it will not be through the IPL channel. We have been promised replays from the event and we will be sorting through them and will be broadcasting the top notch games from our own studios, with our own casters. For tonight we will be streaming games from our Multiplay Qualifier #2 that happened this past weekend. Note we are not pulling our support from the PPSL event itself, so players can rest assured that the event (and prize pool) still has funding.

In short, we apologize, we never imagined it would be so terrible and we will work hard in the future to prevent a failure of this magnitude from happening again. You all expect a certain level of product and we completely wasted your time last night. This is completely unacceptable to us and we are sincerely sorry. We hope everyone still recognizes the level of quality that we at the IPL work hard everyday to present to the community and has trust that we will do our best to make sure this doesn't happen again.

Thank you.

Edit: My apologies in advance if any of this is factually incorrect, this post was made based of the information we received from the community, messages with people at the venue and from what we observed from the event last night.
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mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
November 07 2011 21:52 GMT
#2
IPL taking responsibility. respect yo
ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
November 07 2011 21:53 GMT
#3
It's really great that you guys are able to come out and say "look we fucked up, and here's what happens now"
Very respectable. Damn shame about the PPSL
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arQ
Profile Joined October 2010
1033 Posts
November 07 2011 21:53 GMT
#4
Well done Alex, I think this post is appreciated by many fans.
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Selkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States530 Posts
November 07 2011 21:54 GMT
#5
What malstriks said- in short, I'm happy to see this move from the IPL.
evoli
Profile Joined May 2010
United States333 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 21:54:43
November 07 2011 21:54 GMT
#6
I thought streaming through the 8mm cameras was a nice touch. Gave the event a vintage feel.

Kidding aside, you folks will be more prepared in the future to avoid these sort of issues. Everyone appreciates you taking the time to write this up.
General Manager for EG // twitter.com/gosutrolling
TheWahbinator
Profile Joined September 2010
United States131 Posts
November 07 2011 21:55 GMT
#7
This is a very good thing to inform the community about, even if you guys didn't have any part in producing this. I hope others don't bunch you in with those who were involved at the event itself.
Zojukanji
Profile Joined June 2011
China393 Posts
November 07 2011 21:55 GMT
#8
respect IPL, i'm really sad I won't be able to watch the rest of the tourney though.
do it!
pbjsandwich
Profile Joined August 2010
United States443 Posts
November 07 2011 21:55 GMT
#9
imo Apology is totally unnecessary

i think that everyone that has read #2 which you have stated before in the live report thread i think understands that IGN is just supporting these guys and is doing a good thing

pewpew444
Profile Joined May 2011
United States121 Posts
November 07 2011 21:57 GMT
#10
Everyone makes mistakes lets just learn from them unlike some other leagues.
xSixGeneralHan
Profile Joined April 2011
United States528 Posts
November 07 2011 21:57 GMT
#11
Thank you ign
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Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
November 07 2011 21:57 GMT
#12
On November 08 2011 06:55 Zojukanji wrote:
respect IPL, i'm really sad I won't be able to watch the rest of the tourney though.


We will be broadcasting the top level games from the event assuming we get replays as promised from PPSL!
IGN eSports StarCraft 2 Division Manager
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
November 07 2011 21:58 GMT
#13
Thank you for your statement. You pretty much answered everything you can on your side.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278984&currentpage=50#981

It's now PPSL's turn.
solidONE
Profile Joined August 2010
United States160 Posts
November 07 2011 21:59 GMT
#14
respect for manning up and taking responsibility for your product, even if it's not your fault. people don't forget that.
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
November 07 2011 21:59 GMT
#15
On November 08 2011 06:55 Zojukanji wrote:
respect IPL, i'm really sad I won't be able to watch the rest of the tourney though.


This. Sen vs Nani series was really good! We could have more of those matches from this tournament.
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coddan
Profile Joined May 2010
Estonia890 Posts
November 07 2011 22:00 GMT
#16
So if they don't manage to setup a channel to broadcast on we're just not going to get to see it at all?
Roberi
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden347 Posts
November 07 2011 22:00 GMT
#17
A valuable lesson learned, I'm sure. Thanks for the clarifications and I'm looking forward to a more successful next time!
A fan of ThorZaIN, MorroW, NaNiwa and SaSe. Sweden Fighting! /// @rob_eri
nOondn
Profile Joined March 2011
564 Posts
November 07 2011 22:01 GMT
#18
resplect to IPL <3 <3 <3

also very sad for YoonYJ , Hope Gus take responsibility form this.
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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
November 07 2011 22:02 GMT
#19
I'm glad you are careful of your brand, but I'm not sure it's the right thing to pull the streaming. I think the people who watched today will want to continue to watch to find out who the winner will be, after all there are some international and fan favourite players attending.

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Logarythm
Profile Joined November 2010
United States264 Posts
November 07 2011 22:03 GMT
#20
Woah. This is why IPL/IGN are my favorite SC2 establishment out there.
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