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rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
November 09 2011 00:00 GMT
#461
On November 09 2011 04:40 v98235 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Posted this on the other thread, is it ok to post this here, too?

Just just just got home from the event (passed on attending the after party...I was invited, but a humble spectator after all, and it didn't feel right. point being that's how friggin' nice everyone was.). I believe I can bring some unique insight into the event. I only watched the stream for day 1 and was there live for day 2. Been lurking here since forever but am absolutely compelled to speak my mind now.

I want to share what I saw, heard and experienced not to throw anyone under the bus, but rather to make sure that the Filipino SC2/e-sports scene is not misrepresented or tarnished by THE MISTAKES OF AN INDIVIDUAL. We, the fans, want more tourneys, more Tastosis, more awesome games, more E-SPORTS. We, the fans, are ready and willing and love e-sports with a passion, too. Rachel/Seltzer even told me that they're used to events screwing up that badly, especially first-time ones. She reassured me that PPSL Day 1 is by no means enough to scare her or her colleagues away from returning to the Philippines for e-sports events. (Looking at you, IPL.)

So of course, the stream was absolutely horrible on the first day. Us Filipino SC2 fans were really embarrassed and could not believe how badly "Gus" dropped the proverbial ball. (Much on this later)

Cut to Day 2. I have to say, the live event was simply AWESOME for the live fans. The SC2 fans in attendance had a blast and so many students and office workers and just so many different people from different walks of life were exposed to SC2. I was there from start to pack-up and aside from one internet problem and one dropped player (MKP I believe), the event went rather smoothly from a live spectator's POV. Thank you Torch, Seltzer, Tastosis, Justin, etc. for really stepping up for the fans and doing more than you were paid to. You really saved the event and Gus' behind to a certain extent. I watched Torch play the role of floor director the WHOLE DAY; speaking to players, the stream crew, the video crew, etc. Tastosis really upped everyone's spirits every time they took to the mics; making light of the flaws of the event and just being so nice to the fans that swarmed them.

Though the stream was horrible (day 1) and passable (day 2), the live event was good for the local SC2 scene and e-sports in the Philippines. The event, for how flawed it was, was but a first step and really really really did a lot for the fans and the community (even revealing, according to a lot of insiders, a few "scam artists" along the way).

I made it a point to speak to A LOT of people at the event regarding all the problems. The general consensus was that THIS WAS NOT THE BEST THAT THE PHILIPPINE SC2 SCENE HAD TO OFFER. As it turns out, numerous SC2 and LoL and HoN events have been successfully held just a week or two prior to the PPSL (solid streams and insane live events....by other more organized and, according to insiders, more "honorable" individuals). Heck, my internet connection here at home is pretty solid as well.

The general consensus was that IPL JUST CHOSE THE WRONG PEOPLE TO PARTNER WITH and that THOSE PEOPLE looked like they BARELY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING.

E-sports in the Philippines is in its infancy but is rapidly growing. We, the SC2 fans, implore you not to give up on us. We most certainly will need help with the next major international e-sports event....please let there be another one...many more, even. Please do not let one bad event by one incompetent individual ruin it for us, the fans. Just ask Tastosis, Seltzer, Torch, etc. ...they didn't expect us to be as numerous or as ravenous as we were. I believe we blew them away. FYI the "crowd mic" was actually off to one side on the front row....pointing at a silent fan's lap.


We are with you guys! Props to everyone involved working their ass off (including AZK staff). Don't let this one bring you down
Bulza
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1 Post
November 09 2011 00:11 GMT
#462
I appreciate the honesty. Will continue to love IPL and IGN. You guys are great.
TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
November 09 2011 00:17 GMT
#463
Mad props to IPL for taking responsibility.
Lots of respect for IPL.
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
November 09 2011 00:31 GMT
#464
Mad respect IPL!
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 09 2011 00:42 GMT
#465
Sometimes I think IPL is too good to be true.
lalala
Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
November 09 2011 01:51 GMT
#466
Way to keep it classy IGN/IPL, I suddenly have got a lot more respect for you. It's very nice to see a corporation owing up to unforeseen/foreseen shortcomings and admitting it to the public in a clear, non-ambiguous manner. +1 respect to IGN/IPL for this!
LittleAlien
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States34 Posts
November 09 2011 02:11 GMT
#467
Hey so long as that guy who does that commercial isn't in IPL anymore it's fine.
Everything you guys did was great. Loved the casting, didn't mind the two women who were casting. Probably their first time casting, but long time viewing. It was about time to give Toastasis a break from casting because of Tastless' voice sounded more fucked up.

You guys did great
"I may be the Majesty's jester, but i am no Fool."
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 03:13:07
November 09 2011 03:06 GMT
#468
David Ting is talking with vVv about PPSL now at at:

http://www.twitch.tv/livevvvgaming

I'll summarize:

- IPL has the strategy of spreading esports through sponsoring smaller events on the other side of the world.
- He decided to sponsor PPSL because he felt these were a group of young people who did not have the same access of to financial resources that IPL has but had big ideas. (he met them at IPL3).
- He feels that PPSL bit off more than they could chew. (but he also said he sent them Rachel, Allyn etc because he wanted it to be big - confused about this?)
- He forced them to change the date or something to show that they were committed to it (didn't really get this part?)
- David made a mistake of overtrusting his partners, against the advice of his team. He says he will be less trusting in the future
- No direct mention of Gus.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Bluebush
Profile Joined March 2011
United States218 Posts
November 09 2011 04:10 GMT
#469
Thanks for clearing everything up and sorry your event got tarnished by an utter scumbag
YoonYJ
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia48 Posts
November 09 2011 04:44 GMT
#470
Pls look at my post, and give me feedback whether I am being unreasonable or not. I will appreciate the feedback. You can find it at http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=2699

Kind regards,

YoonYJ
Zraf
Profile Joined August 2010
54 Posts
November 09 2011 04:48 GMT
#471
On November 09 2011 12:06 pdd wrote:
David Ting is talking with vVv about PPSL now at at:

http://www.twitch.tv/livevvvgaming

I'll summarize:

- IPL has the strategy of spreading esports through sponsoring smaller events on the other side of the world.
- He decided to sponsor PPSL because he felt these were a group of young people who did not have the same access of to financial resources that IPL has but had big ideas. (he met them at IPL3).
- He feels that PPSL bit off more than they could chew. (but he also said he sent them Rachel, Allyn etc because he wanted it to be big - confused about this?)
- He forced them to change the date or something to show that they were committed to it (didn't really get this part?)
- David made a mistake of overtrusting his partners, against the advice of his team. He says he will be less trusting in the future
- No direct mention of Gus.


Regarding the change of dates if I remember correctly, he mentioned during IPL3 that they made all other events that fell on the same date as IPL3 move their event (PPSL being one of them). I think making them a qualifier for IPL4 was something to compensate, tho I'm not 100% sure that's what it sounded like to me when he made the statement.
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
November 09 2011 05:16 GMT
#472
Thank you for making this announcement! Most organiziations would act as if though nothing happened and would move on without a moments notice. GL to IPL and hopefully you will be welcomed back into the SEA SC2 community in the near future with a better understanding/knowledge of what you are getting into.
CinnaBuns
Profile Joined August 2011
United States34 Posts
November 09 2011 05:32 GMT
#473
If allegations of misdeeds by this Gus character are true, the only effective measure is to ban all AZK members from future IGN-sponsored events. It sucks for their players who may not be complicit but thems the breaks when you work for a corrupt organization. If the team can't get players into major events it'll be forced to disband.

Furthermore, if IGN is sincere in rectifying this situation they need to get to the bottom of this and hold Gus and AZK accountable, including paying monetary damages for any breach of contract that may have occurred.
Coruscant
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore84 Posts
November 09 2011 05:38 GMT
#474
On November 08 2011 15:56 theBALLS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2011 14:16 gulshngill wrote:
Thanks for the clarification IPL! If you have an SC2 event in SEA again, I suggest doing it in Singapore at least.

Thank you, my man. That is right


^ YEAH! :D
pi_rate_pir_ate
Profile Joined April 2010
United States179 Posts
November 09 2011 05:38 GMT
#475
I was wondering...thanks for posting! I wish I hadn't waited forever for Tastosis and Naniwa/Sen, but thanks for the apology!
CounterOrder
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada457 Posts
November 09 2011 05:52 GMT
#476
Thank You IGN/IPL. You guys are awesome, keep doin what your doin!
mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
November 09 2011 06:29 GMT
#477
This is the proper way to respond to something that goes wrong. I have mad respect for IGN.
Write your own song!
JaBrOnI
Profile Joined February 2011
Philippines59 Posts
November 09 2011 06:45 GMT
#478
Very respectable from IGN. First off, I would like to thank you for bringing this event in the Philippines which was a really great deal for us since we're a third world country and we really don't have much events as big as this.

I have been to the event itself and was disappointed as well. But seeing the players in person made me forget about how the event was so disorganized. I have a friend who told me the problems that happened and its a shame for the Filipino organizers to act that way. I was in the players area and there were people arguing about something and they were really furious about it but I didn't care because I was busy looking for the players to ask for a picture and their autographs :D

I just hope that this wouldn't discourage people and organizers from bringing E-Sports to the Philippines because of this incident. Just a lesson learned for everybody that their counterparts should be screened and every little detail should be clear.
En Taro Tassadar
YoonYJ
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia48 Posts
November 09 2011 08:26 GMT
#479
An update from Dox. I am in touch with Amanda and she is keeping me updated:

Okay just an update, this is really quite serious. I know it was announced several hours ago that Gus was on his way to the hotel to sort things out, but the travel expenses are still outstanding.

This is a message from Amanda who is possibly facing jail if this is not resolved imminently:
I issued a total of php 715,000 worth of tickets. 200,000 has been paid, so the outstanding debt is close to php 516,000. Told gunrun already and like im really hoping people in the community can help as being jailed is a possibility for me. I am connected to a travel agency that is why.


This needs to be RESOLVED before someone goes to jail.
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
November 09 2011 08:30 GMT
#480
Well fuck. This event isn't just bad for the Philippines, it's bad for David Ting too. IGN gave him the go-ahead to make a major investment in e-sports, and some douche bag came to fuck it all up. I hope he doesn't wind up in any trouble because of all this.
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