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Sha1hulud
United States18 Posts
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dukem
Norway189 Posts
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On November 09 2011 04:27 Sha1hulud wrote: IPL isn't taking responsibility. They did nothing wrong other than placing their trust in several individuals that had never shown reason to suspect them of lying. I hope IPL still attempts to hold a tournament in this region for the next IPL with another partner! gl That is exactly what i was thinking when everyone said stuff about the responsibility. They just denied the stream and saved themselves a bad name. IF they are truly taken responsibility they would go after Gus and put that in their statement instead of pulling away the tools. | ||
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Sha1hulud
United States18 Posts
On November 09 2011 04:34 Assirra wrote: That is exactly what i was thinking when everyone said stuff about the responsibility. They just denied the stream and saved themselves a bad name. IF they are truly taken responsibility they would go after Gus and put that in their statement instead of pulling away the tools. I think that pursuing Gus falls outside the realm of reasonable responsibility. The community will naturally seek to distant themselves from Gus because of the events that unfolded, but I don't feel that IPL has any responsibility to exact revenge of sorts. That being said, I still want to see them make him hang.(metaphorically speaking of course) | ||
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v98235
Philippines8 Posts
Just just just got home from the event (passed on attending the after party...I was invited, but a humble spectator after all, and it didn't feel right. point being that's how friggin' nice everyone was.). I believe I can bring some unique insight into the event. I only watched the stream for day 1 and was there live for day 2. Been lurking here since forever but am absolutely compelled to speak my mind now. I want to share what I saw, heard and experienced not to throw anyone under the bus, but rather to make sure that the Filipino SC2/e-sports scene is not misrepresented or tarnished by THE MISTAKES OF AN INDIVIDUAL. We, the fans, want more tourneys, more Tastosis, more awesome games, more E-SPORTS. We, the fans, are ready and willing and love e-sports with a passion, too. Rachel/Seltzer even told me that they're used to events screwing up that badly, especially first-time ones. She reassured me that PPSL Day 1 is by no means enough to scare her or her colleagues away from returning to the Philippines for e-sports events. (Looking at you, IPL.) So of course, the stream was absolutely horrible on the first day. Us Filipino SC2 fans were really embarrassed and could not believe how badly "Gus" dropped the proverbial ball. (Much on this later) Cut to Day 2. I have to say, the live event was simply AWESOME for the live fans. The SC2 fans in attendance had a blast and so many students and office workers and just so many different people from different walks of life were exposed to SC2. I was there from start to pack-up and aside from one internet problem and one dropped player (MKP I believe), the event went rather smoothly from a live spectator's POV. Thank you Torch, Seltzer, Tastosis, Justin, etc. for really stepping up for the fans and doing more than you were paid to. You really saved the event and Gus' behind to a certain extent. I watched Torch play the role of floor director the WHOLE DAY; speaking to players, the stream crew, the video crew, etc. Tastosis really upped everyone's spirits every time they took to the mics; making light of the flaws of the event and just being so nice to the fans that swarmed them. Though the stream was horrible (day 1) and passable (day 2), the live event was good for the local SC2 scene and e-sports in the Philippines. The event, for how flawed it was, was but a first step and really really really did a lot for the fans and the community (even revealing, according to a lot of insiders, a few "scam artists" along the way). I made it a point to speak to A LOT of people at the event regarding all the problems. The general consensus was that THIS WAS NOT THE BEST THAT THE PHILIPPINE SC2 SCENE HAD TO OFFER. As it turns out, numerous SC2 and LoL and HoN events have been successfully held just a week or two prior to the PPSL (solid streams and insane live events....by other more organized and, according to insiders, more "honorable" individuals). Heck, my internet connection here at home is pretty solid as well. The general consensus was that IPL JUST CHOSE THE WRONG PEOPLE TO PARTNER WITH and that THOSE PEOPLE looked like they BARELY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING. E-sports in the Philippines is in its infancy but is rapidly growing. We, the SC2 fans, implore you not to give up on us. We most certainly will need help with the next major international e-sports event....please let there be another one...many more, even. Please do not let one bad event by one incompetent individual ruin it for us, the fans. Just ask Tastosis, Seltzer, Torch, etc. ...they didn't expect us to be as numerous or as ravenous as we were. I believe we blew them away. FYI the "crowd mic" was actually off to one side on the front row....pointing at a silent fan's lap. | ||
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Perfect
United States322 Posts
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alpinefpOPP
United States134 Posts
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Scvhero
United States20 Posts
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jayman
United States78 Posts
Did PPSL have a repertoire of live tournaments? Or did "Gus" butter IPL up with fancy fliers and posters? The obvious question is, Why Gus in the first place? | ||
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
On November 09 2011 06:53 jayman wrote: I'm curious how IPL screened or chose PPSL as the contractor/organizer of the event. Reading all these back-stories and dramas and links hidden here and there, I think that Dox could've done a better job on representing the IPL name. Or even Mineski with the history of live events they did. Did PPSL have a repertoire of live tournaments? Or did "Gus" butter IPL up with fancy fliers and posters? The obvious question is, Why Gus in the first place? probably through internet connections, IGN might not have had much/any communication with the philippines until now. | ||
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AEsgaims
United States237 Posts
On November 09 2011 02:59 Honeybadger wrote: IPL: serious ballers. Seriously, all the other leagues can't even compare (NASL is fine, but MLG is just baaaaaaad.) In my mind MLG is probably one of the most important tournaments to do well in, if not the most important outside of the GSL. | ||
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
On November 09 2011 02:59 Honeybadger wrote: IPL: serious ballers. Seriously, all the other leagues can't even compare (NASL is fine, but MLG is just baaaaaaad.) -.- have you watched MLG recently? its fucking intense and its like up to 4 streams on super hd or whatever now. I actually feel really bad for SEA... a lot of them are posting and its pretty bad how much they could have been misrepresented... | ||
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RxDamitol
United States83 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On November 09 2011 07:29 RxDamitol wrote: Still no official statement from gus? go figure... well he said "we pulled it off" == | ||
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tnud
Sweden2233 Posts
Nice of IGN to come out and say it too, hopefully this man gets some kind of punishment  | ||
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Yorku
Canada34 Posts
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
On November 08 2011 15:17 Coruscant wrote: Not to take any blame away from AZK but IPL should have taken greater care in selecting partners - especially the first huge event in SEA, which is bound to generate a lot of attention. There is already an established esports organization in Philippines - MINESKI!! - that has experience hosting international organizations. Wonder why Mski wasn't the first choice. Afaik the reason behind they choose the PPSL as the IPL 4 qualifiers, is because of the presence of Korean high-tier players like MKP,MC and the others partipating in PPSL. I maybe wrong tho. | ||
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Senros
54 Posts
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CarbonTwelve
Australia525 Posts
On November 09 2011 08:33 shin_toss wrote: Afaik the reason behind they choose the PPSL as the IPL 4 qualifiers, is because of the presence of Korean high-tier players like MKP,MC and the others partipating in PPSL. I maybe wrong tho. Pretty sure those players came after IGN was involved. As I understand it Gus used IGN money to get the high-tier players there. | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On November 09 2011 07:29 RxDamitol wrote: Still no official statement from gus? go figure... Torch and TheGunrun said that he's been AWOL since the end of the tourney. I made a summary of what was said on Fuck Slasher in the other thread, but I'll quote it here in case anyone missed it. + Show Spoiler [ Fuck Slasher Summary] + On November 09 2011 07:34 pdd wrote: Summary of !@#$ Slasher (Torch and Thegunrun's story): - Torch was only there with an informal role to provide assistance and support to Korean players (if needed). TheGunrun was there to provide streaming assistance and to ensure event went alright since Twitch.tv was a sponsor. - venue was set up relatively late (11pm the night before) - internet was slow - Gus was not around and uncontactabele till about 2-3pm the first day and it was chaos as no one knew what was happening the first day or who to talk to to get things done. - they eventually got internet faster (thanks to the ISP), they realize there were problems with hardware as well. - Gus was around for most of the time after that, but wasn't really doing much to assist with production, just preparing his "apology" speech, which eventually became a "thank you for watching, we made it" speech. - Torch said that Gus said he was intending to hold another HoN tournament to pay off the $2k, but suspects it could be a way of waving off the heat. - Gus has been AWOL since the end of the tournament - AZK crew and production staff were very responsive to helping Torch and Thegunrun - Despite the "fake" VIP passes, in general crowd feedback was good. - TheGunrun: Mineski production/organization/stream (WCG Phillipines qualifiers/Pinoy Gaming Festival) was so much better than this event. This is an isolated event. Please don't hate the Filipinos - LiviB and CheekyDuck had always been scheduled to cast as far as Torch and TheGunrun knew. And frankly they needed more than 1 set of casters for an event that long. - Naniwa vs Sen was delayed because it was lagging and there were sound issues (insufficient noise cancellation). - Torch and TheGunrun are looking to set up a Reddit AMA sometime in the future to clarify some of the accusations and try to shed more light on the fiasco (what is real, what is not) And that is all I guess. Looks like this Gus guy can't really get out of this mess anymore. | ||
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