The Powert of the Shredder - Drops and Defense vid - Page 10

On October 31 2011 09:46 Plexa wrote:
Protoss drops are fine, they're just less accessible than Terrans. That means that protoss wouldn't be dropping these as frequently as Terrans would be, and if they were I would wager that they become vulnerable to mutalisks or strong roach/hydra counter pushes.

I don't see why its much of an issue. It looks like queens can take them down just fine? Mass queen vs Protoss is common anyway. I have a feeling once people learn how to deal with them properly they won't be an issue. Obviously they solution isn't sending mass lings through a choke to clear them out


How many people think "oh yes I'm going to go rush to storm and prism to storm drop!" no one. It's a late game tactic, and hence, as I've been implying, Protoss drops are not as accessible as Terrans which makes shredder drops less likely if they were a protoss unit.

Lame a-move unit concept, IMO. I mean, it doesn't even move, lol.

On October 31 2011 14:13 Warlock40 wrote:


I don't understand how you arrived at that conclusion. The Shredder is the complete opposite of "a-move". An a-move unit would be the Battle Hellion or Warhound. You just throw them in your deathball and keep on trucking. Shredder on the other hand opens up many new possibilities for Terran matchups, even without the ability to harass. They're like spider mines, perhaps less micro-intensive but still fully capable of zoning the opponent and helping Terran establish area control. It's as anti a-move as you get. The fact that they are ineffective when in range of your units means you really need to pay attention to unit spacing. This is probably the most interesting unit of the expansion pack in terms of how many doors it opens up for gameplay.

On October 31 2011 14:07 usethis2 wrote:
Obviously the stats/cost will be adjusted for balance, but the concept of shredder is quite sad. It's literally a set-it-and-forget-it unit for defense, and there isn't much maneuvability for offense, either. No target firing since it simply grinds things around it, too slow to move around due to burrow. Only thing a T can do is to find a nice spot and throw it down then see how it goes. No more action required or achievable. If things go well maybe you can pick it back up and throw it elsewhere. But that's just about it.

Lame a-move unit concept, IMO. I mean, it doesn't even move, lol.

On October 31 2011 14:28 Warlock40 wrote:
I read your whole post and I disagree with you. It's not noob-friendly at all but a powerful tool in the right hands. It's not meant to kill off armies, it's meant to close off avenues of approach to allow a smart Terran to stagger his defensive lines. It is nothing like a fire-and-forget weapon, unless you want to waste a bunch of resources to kill a few zerglings.

On October 31 2011 14:07 usethis2 wrote:
Obviously the stats/cost will be adjusted for balance, but the concept of shredder is quite sad. It's literally a set-it-and-forget-it unit for defense, and there isn't much maneuvability for offense, either. No target firing since it simply grinds things around it, too slow to move around due to burrow. Only thing a T can do is to find a nice spot and throw it down then see how it goes. No more action required or achievable. If things go well maybe you can pick it back up and throw it elsewhere. But that's just about it.

Lame a-move unit concept, IMO. I mean, it doesn't even move, lol.

On October 31 2011 14:41 Krehlmar wrote:
Terran doesn't deserve it, it's that simple. They already have to good drops with the best dps in the game; Marines and the best building killer in the game; Marauders.

Why would they need a mobile psyhic storm droid?